India to renew hunt for assault rifles after scrapping four-year-old tender of Rs 4,850 crore

[holysaturn]

Can someone confirm this. Is it true or is it a mistake on the part of the "analyst" ,if true it is laughable that the army is going for a round which will fall like brick beyond 200m.
"Official sources indicated that retrials were unlikely, and that after four years of wasted effort, the Army now plans to draw up fresh QRs for a single calibre rifle, in all likelihood a 7.62x39mm"
Perspective: Fighting without equipment - The Hindu

 

[GR!FF!N]

How dare IA,,,we shud wait for MCIWS,,,,hopefully sarkari babus will deliver it in few decades,,,till thn use indigenous INSAS.

It is expected that MCIWS will be ready for trial within 2-3 months,if it doesn't get stuck by red tape.

MSMC trial was conducted in January..

 

[Omega007]

Can someone confirm this. Is it true or is it a mistake on the part of the "analyst" ,if true it is laughable that the army is going for a round which will fall like brick beyond 200m.
"Official sources indicated that retrials were unlikely, and that after four years of wasted effort, the Army now plans to draw up fresh QRs for a single calibre rifle, in all likelihood a 7.62x39mm"
Perspective: Fighting without equipment - The Hindu

At this stage,I can only hope that these are only meant for and would remain restricted to the RR and the ones involved in COIN ops in NE.Otherwise,we are fukced!!

 

[saurav]

No other option but to get ARDE's gun... Guns can not be imported in such a huge number.

 

[holysaturn]

At this stage,I can only hope that these are only meant for and remain restricted to the RR and the ones involved in COIN ops in NE.Otherwise,we are fukced!!

It might also be good if there is an open calibre competition where different calibres are evaluated on the parameters such as
1.range.
2.MOA at different ranges,
3.Penetration.
4.Fragmentation characteristics,
5.wound channel properties in a standard gel.
6.Chamber pressure.
7.Ballistic coefficient.
8.Yaw at different ranges.
9.Cleanliness in propellent gases.

If a different round other than 5.56 is chosen then standardistaion and availability will be a problem.

 

[Omega007]

It might also be good if there is an open calibre competition where different calibres are evaluated on the parameters such as
1.range.
2.MOA at different ranges,
3.Penetration.
4.Fragmentation characteristics,
5.wound channel properties in a standard gel.
6.Chamber pressure.
7.Ballistic coefficient.
8.Yaw at different ranges.
9.Cleanliness in propellent gases.

If a different round other than 5.56 is chosen then standardization and availability will be a problem.

In that case,they do not even need to conduct a competition.Cause we already know who the winner would be- 6.5 Grendel hands down.It defeats every other small arms bullet in each and every parameter you mentioned!!Others just do not come close.

 

[macnurv]

It took you Pakistanis one year to rename and paint a Chinese drone as Burraq .. You buy 55% of total Chinese weapon export .. Yet you are shamelessly pointing towards indian Arms.

without the help of other you can't even make a Underwear.

Sure and you guys are such mighty giants when it comes to Military Tech, god damn it after 40 years can't make a plane that can fly, or a tank that can hold its $hit together, yet are ready to look down on everyone. Bunch of big cry babies. Where ever you look DRDO is such a failure, only thing they are good at fabricating tales of secret weapons, apply for a job there, since it seems you're will fit right in there.

So much smoke.

Some Indian must be firing INSAS in here.

 

[holysaturn]

In that case,they do not even need to conduct a competition.Cause we already know who the winner would be- 6.5 Grendel hands down.It defeats every other small arms bullet in each and every parameter you mentioned!!Others just do not come close.

True that the grendel with its high grain bullet,stopping power,ballistic efficiency is a very good prospect,we can carry out customisations to the grendel design to improve the current slight deficiency in yaw,fragmentation characteristics compared to the 6.8mm after all terminal ballistics is the only area where 6.8mm has an upper hand and in all others it is way behind the 6.5mm grendel.

 

[Omega007]

True that the grendel with its high grain bullet,stopping power,ballistic efficiency is a very good prospect,we can carry out customisations to the grendel design to improve the current slight deficiency in yaw,fragmentation characteristics compared to the 6.8mm after all terminal ballistics is the only area where 6.8mm has an upper hand and in all others it is way behind the 6.5mm grendel.

Very true,simply because it is the way 6.8 SPC was designed to be. SPC - Special Purpose Cartridge...............specifically designed for instant incapacitation at the cost of range.......................Its ballistic coefficient was purposefully kept low just for that.To be honest,I think Army's decision to include the 7.62X39 M43 round into its list while drafting the GSQR for MCIWS was totally wrong to begin with - I mean why would you need this when you have also included the Remington SPC!!The SPC does everything M43 can do.............and that too much more efficiently!!The M43 should be replaced with the Grendel ASAP,it's not too late yet.At least I would have done the same.

Sure and you guys are such mighty giants when it comes to Military Tech, god damn it after 40 years can't make a plane that can fly, or a tank that can hold its $hit together, yet are ready to look down on everyone. Bunch of big cry babies. Where ever you look DRDO is such a failure, only thing they are good at fabricating tales of secret weapons, apply for a job there, since it seems you're will fit right in there..

Sorry but we do not want someone's advice who is too ashamed of his nationality to show his country flags.Go fukc yourself kid.

 

[macnurv]

Sorry but we do not want someone's advice who is too ashamed of his nationality to show his country flags.Go fukc yourself kid.

Typical Bharti moronic attitude, please tattoo your flag on your head and bum so when you bend over it can be seen. Take your high pedestal and put it up where sun doesn't shine.

 

[Omega007]

Typical Bharti moronic attitude, please tattoo your flag on your head and bum so when you bend over it can be seen. Take your high pedestal and put it up where sun doesn't shine.

Wow!!That's rich coming from an inbred madrasa dog,who's been administered with daily dosage of camel piss and dog semen and also,who's ashamed of his own country!!Go suck your d!kc numbnut!!

 

[macnurv]

Wow!!That's rich coming from an inbred madrasa dog,who's been administered with daily dosage of camel piss and dog serum and also,who's ashamed of his own country!!Go suck your d!kc numbnut!!

And you seems to know a lot about camel piss and dog serum or were you trying to say semen? HAHAHA.

 

[Omega007]

And you seems to know a lot about camel piss

Nope.That's your area of expertise,not mine.

and dog serum or were you trying to say semen? HAHAHA.

That was a typo.Corrected now.

 

[macnurv]

Nope.That's your area of expertise,not mine.


That was a typo.Corrected now.

Yet you're the one who seems to be mentioning it, you turd. haha