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India still clueless about trigger behind Chinese incursion

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NEW DELHI: A day ahead of Chinese Premier Li Keqiang's visit to India, puzzlement prevails on what spurred Chinese intrusion in eastern Ladakh although its after effects increasingly indicate that Beijing has emerged a significant gainer.

Going by Li's comments prior to leaving for Delhi the visit is likely to pass off amid reasonable bonhomie with the Chinese insisting that there are robust mechanisms to ensure military standoffs end in stand downs.

But foreign minister Salman Khurshid's candid comment in Beijing after meeting his Chinese counterpart on May 9 that there is no clarity on the April 15th incursion remains the sum total of official wisdom on the event.

Drawing comfort from the Chinese removing their tents, the Manmohan Singh government has been quick to claim that "status quo ante" has been restored.

The government was rigid in its view that the Chinese army must vacate and pull back, but some things have changed on the ground in eastern Ladakh and it will take a while to figure out if the new posture is permanent.

The two sides seem to have arrived at an agreement, perhaps unspoken, that neither will patrol that particular part of Depsang Valley as long as both keep out.

This means Indian forces will not seek to mark a presence — as they have been doing in recent years — in an area they see as India's side of the Line of Actual Control (LAC) well within its claim lines.

As they attempt to solve the Chinese riddle, Indian agencies find it hard to reconcile recent initiatives like a dialogue on Afghanistan, the desire to make India Li's first port of call and Beijing's preoccupations in the east with the sudden stab into Ladakh.

There is skepticism whether the manoeuvre was a local miscalculation or a larger initiative gone wrong. China's tightly- controlled military hierarchy and the supremacy of the political wing makes this hard to accept.

In weighing options to end the showdown, India was careful to avoid an armed escalation although the Army expressed a quiet confidence while not underestimating the odds.

The episode has certainly jolted the political leadership as it brought home the perils of viewing India's giant neighbour through a conventional prism. Some experts see the Ladakh happenings as an example of Chinese "offensive deterrence" - a slap on the wrist to get a pesky neighbour to fall in line.

Beijing is sure to resent any attempt to seek equivalence on the Tibet or Arunachal borders but the incident will only convince skeptics to seek clearer terms on the ongoing border talks before the LAC is altered bit by bit to India's disadvantage.

Link - India still clueless about trigger behind Chinese incursion - The Times of India
 
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The incursion by Chinese is a blunder in their policy, As a result the high level visits from Chinese become a watered down ones. West gained here against China.
 
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I think it was organized at lower level. But when it reached to the higher authorities, they could not take decision, as it would have showed China a weaker in maintaining its interests. So they waited for some time. But It does not make any sense even at lower level for such a useless step.
 
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We will do what we want, when we want against India.

Why?

Because we can, as we proved a few weeks ago and then got concessions out of India.
 
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Those tin sheds were built during the row :cheers:

You can use all the face-saving terms you need, like "tin sheds" (read the Reuters report to see otherwise).

India built bunkers, we set up tents. India had no choice but to take down the bunkers in question.

India also granted several further concessions, read below:

Chinese army intensifies presence in Ladakh - Hindustan Times

The Indian side informed that all developmental works, construction of bunkers and road has been stopped in area and asked the Chinese side for an "unconditional withdrawal of Chinese troops from the Indian territory as per the agreements signed between the two sides on earlier occasions."
 
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You can use all the face-saving terms you need, like "tin sheds" (read the Reuters report to see otherwise).

India built bunkers, we set up tents. India had no choice but to take down the bunkers in question.

India also granted several further concessions, read below:

Chinese army intensifies presence in Ladakh - Hindustan Times

These are not face saving things rather facts, Indian democracy do not hide any thing.

India also intensified the presence in Ladhakh, they have activated Advanced Landing Ground, Built permanent Bunkers inits own territory.

India is also doing research in Cold weather survival foods and other gear needed for troops in Himalayas, You can see more activity from Indian side there.

Do not forget Indian tents facing Chinese are more in number during the row.


Again I am reminding you, those tin sheds are built as a response.


India have not given any concessions, the april 15th status quo still remains.

By the way beware of false flaggers :lol:
 
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These are not face saving things rather facts, Indian democracy do not hide any thing.

India also intensified the presence in Ladhakh, they have activated Advanced Landing Ground, Built permanent Bunkers inits own territory.

India is also doing research in Cold weather survival foods and other gear needed for troops in Himalayas, You can see more activity from Indian side there.

Do not forget Indian tents facing Chinese are more in number during the row.


Again I am reminding you, those tin sheds are built as a response.


India have not given any concessions, the april 15th status quo still remains.

By the way beware of false flaggers :lol:

:lol: trying so hard to convince yourself and us that India saved face. The reality is that we entered into India, and didn't leave until we got full concessions out of the Indian regime. We got the concessions and stripped India's dignity.

How's that for pwnage :lol:
 
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:lol: trying so hard to convince yourself and us that India saved face. The reality is that we entered into India, and didn't leave until we got full concessions out of the Indian regime. We got the concessions and stripped India's dignity.

How's that for pwnage :lol:


Then list out the concessions here with proofs, do not speculate with your wild imaginations.

You wanted concessions on the border and will be kept on back foot during the visit :cheers:
 
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These are not face saving things rather facts, Indian democracy do not hide any thing.

India also intensified the presence in Ladhakh, they have activated Advanced Landing Ground, Built permanent Bunkers inits own territory.

India is also doing research in Cold weather survival foods and other gear needed for troops in Himalayas, You can see more activity from Indian side there.

Do not forget Indian tents facing Chinese are more in number during the row.


Again I am reminding you, those tin sheds are built as a response.


India have not given any concessions, the april 15th status quo still remains.

By the way beware of false flaggers :lol:

Indian gov agree to Chinese demands. But all these contradicting reporting by Indian media make everything sound confusing to Indians. Here in the west, the news was very clear. India conceded.
 
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These are not face saving things rather facts, Indian democracy do not hide any thing.

India also intensified the presence in Ladhakh, they have activated Advanced Landing Ground, Built permanent Bunkers inits own territory.

India is also doing research in Cold weather survival foods and other gear needed for troops in Himalayas, You can see more activity from Indian side there.

Do not forget Indian tents facing Chinese are more in number during the row.


Again I am reminding you, those tin sheds are built as a response.


India have not given any concessions, the april 15th status quo still remains.

By the way beware of false flaggers :lol:

I don't care however you want to paint it. Indian victory, Chinese victory, equal draw, stalemate, etc.

China didn't lose, that's all I'm interested in.

At worst it was an equal draw. But we didn't lose... and the facts support that.
 
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Indian gov agree to Chinese demands. But all these contradicting reporting by Indian media make everything sound confusing to Indians. Here in the west, the news was very clear. India conceded.

Western media is more interested in Chinese bullying than the truth. They will paint China as a new Nazi regime of Asia and will find excuses to meddle in Asia.

Speculation with out proofs is next to nothing.
 
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