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India's Commonwealth Games bills still not paid

13 October 2011

Many foreign companies see entry into India's booming market as one way of riding out the global financial storm, but Mark Dummett in Delhi says doing business there is not for the faint-hearted.

Ric Birch has worked all over the world. He is an impresario who organises the opening ceremonies of major international sporting events.

He has done six Olympics including Beijing, Sydney and Barcelona. He has helped design public extravaganzas in Mexico, Singapore and his native Australia.

He has also worked in India, where he produced the curtain-raiser for Delhi's Commonwealth Games, one year ago.

It was not easy. The biggest sporting event in India's history was supposed to be its chance to show off, much as China had done with the Beijing Games. But to those of us watching from the sidelines, the plan seemed to backfire appallingly.

Indeed, the weeks leading up to the games only seemed to reveal problems.

Parts of Delhi were flooded by the heaviest monsoon in years, work on the venues was not finished even though the whole thing had run massively over budget, a bridge collapsed, there was an outbreak of dengue fever and some athletes' bedrooms were slept in by stray dogs.

Payment outstanding

However, as one government minister had correctly predicted, everything came together at the last minute, just like at an Indian wedding.


Ric Birch does not want to work in India again

Ric's team worked like heroes.

Their opening ceremony was a grand success and, as a giant helium balloon was launched into the Delhi night sky, 60,000 proud spectators bellowed out the national anthem.

So does Ric ever want to work here again? "No, absolutely not." "India," he says, "stands for I'll-Not-Do-It-Again."

The final straw for Ric is the fact that he still has not been paid. He says he is owed $350,000 (£225,000) and the Indian government has not told him why he has not received his money.

"They don't answer correspondence, they've changed their phone numbers, they've changed their email address," he told me. "It's a rogue action."

Ric is not the only one in this situation.

According to a list compiled by foreign governments, of the 32 international contractors employed to help run the games, only two have been paid in full.

The total debt amounts to more than $80m (£50m) and some of the companies are now in danger of folding.

Their experience seems to support a recent World Bank survey which found that India was one of the hardest places in the world in which to do business, coming a lowly 134th out of 183 countries
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More damningly still, when it comes to enforcing contracts, the World Bank says that India is actually the second worst, coming only higher than East Timor.

Investigation

The Commonwealth Games companies I have spoken to said the Indian government had still not given them any indication as to why they were not being paid.

But the reason is hardly a secret, and it has to do with the biggest scandal of the games - corruption.

Games chairman Suresh Kalmadi resigned from his post in India's Congress party in November 2010

The man at the centre of things is Suresh Kalmadi, a veteran ruling-party politician, who sat on Parliament's ethics committee, and was appointed to run the Delhi games.

He is now behind bars, facing charges of taking bribes from contractors - allegations which he denies.

The government has made it clear that, until all the contracts that Kalmadi issued are fully investigated, the remaining money will not be released. And two independent committees claimed that some of the contracts issued to foreign firms were indeed suspicious.

One of the British companies they named was SIS Live, which televised the games, and is owed more than $20 million (£13m).

A spokesman for SIS Live angrily rejected the allegations it had done anything dodgy. Terence Fane Saunders described to me the committees' reports as grotesquely wrong and inaccurate - full, he said, of easily provable errors.

He claimed that no-one from either committee had contacted SIS Live to check their facts.

The UK High Commission in Delhi agrees with SIS Live and has written to the Indian government asking it to reconsider its treatment of the company.

That letter was followed up by a second one, regarding the fate of all the firms, signed jointly by the embassies of Germany, Australia, Italy, Switzerland, France, Belgium, the Netherlands and Britain.

Neither letter received an official reply and nobody seems to know if and when the money will ever be paid.

'Too risky'


Legal action could take years.

One frustrated Western diplomat admitted to me that it was possible that a few of the companies might indeed have paid bribes but it was inconceivable that all of them had.

"The whole thing," he says, "sends out a terrible message that doing business in India is just too risky."


The global economic crisis is now forcing foreign firms to look at India like never before. BP is the latest major firm to invest, recently announcing a joint venture worth more than $7 billion (£4.5bn).

But Ric Birch, whose company has not been accused of wrongdoing, will not be coming back.

"I'll be very happy to ignore India," he tells me. "There are plenty of other places where they pay their bills."


BBC News - India's Commonwealth Games bills still not paid
 
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Well its quite true that India's economic progress data including GDP growth and Growth in exports are all fake and fuzzed up data to show progress only in books but on ground picture is totally different.

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Scam 2.0: How $40 bn of exports and FII flows may be fiction

On Tuesday, Bihar Chief Minister Nitish Kumar flagged off Lal Krishna Advani’s Jan Chetna Yatra, one of whose aims to is pressure the government to act against corruption and bring back the black money stashed abroad.

Here’s a thought: Maybe Advani can take a break and chat up some smart cookies in Mumbai during his yatra. It seems some of the black money has already come back and is nesting in our own backyard. It is sloshing about in the stock markets and bank accounts.

Here’s the stunner: The amounts involved could be as large as $40-45 billion and this is money that came back just in one year, 2010-11.

Three analysts from Kotak Securites have probably struck paydirt in unearthing a scam that will be bigger than the 2G, Commonwealth and multiple illegal mining scams put together.

AFP
Howzatt?

Well, the trio—Sanjeev Prasad, Sunita Baldawa and Amit Kumar—have been poring over our export numbers and foreign investor inflows and have proved that it just does not add up. And if it does, maybe all the fuss kicked up about Swiss banks and illegal funds abroad has sent black money scurrying back to home base.

India, it seems, is the ultimate safe haven for Indians’ black wealth.

Of course, Messrs Prasad, Baldawa and Kumar do not put it quite that way. This is what they say in a research report dated 10 October:

“Our study of exports data of major engineering companies (including automobiles and metals) shows that the increase in their exports does not reconcile with the steep increase in official exports data. In fact, the gap is quite substantial.”

How substantial? The official export data shows 79 percent year-on-year export growth in 2010-11. Exports by engineering companies in the BSE 500 (the cream of India Inc) show just 11 percent growth. If you want to know the difference in dollars, the engineering export jump accounts for $30 bn (up from $38 billion to $68 bn). The figures for the BSE 500 show a jump of just Rs 61 billion (rupees, not dollars). Converted at the rate of $ 1= Rs 44, this is just $1.38 bn.

Where did the rest of the $28-and-odd billion come from?

From itsy-bitsy small engineering companies that are not in the BSE 500? Or was so much of illegal ore mined and sent by the Reddy brothers and their ilk in Goa, Odisha, Karnataka, and Jharkhand?

Or, as the Kotak trio suggest, could be it all be overinvoiced exports? The report says:

“Some reports have alleged that some individuals may have been compelled to bring back funds through the official route by simply overinvoicing exports or even resorting to fraudulent exports thanks to (1) increased international scrutiny of unaccounted funds in bank accounts in Switzerland and other financial centres, and (2) heightened debate in India about action against unaccounted overseas wealth.”

The Kotak report offers two “egregious” examples as exhibits A and B in its effort to show that something’s clearly wrong. In 2010-11, exports of metals and metal products soared from $13 bn to $ 29 bn. But figures for 22 such companies in the BSE 500 show a growth of just Rs 37 bn (yes, rupees again, not dollars). This growth is less than $1 bn. So how did overall exports of metal and metal products rise $16 bn?

Egregious example B relates to “copper articles” whose exports grew by a whopping four times or more from Rs 8,500 crore to Rs 36,700 crore. How did this miracle happen in a metal India is not known to export normally? China apparently bought a whole lot of it.

So there is a strong possibility of there being a China angle to the skulduggery as well. Are the Chinese in cahoots with Indian black money vendors? Is China an alternative safe haven for Indian crooks?

The second route used by the black moneymongers is possibly the foreign institutional investment (FII) route. The Three Kotak Musketeers have smelt a rat here, too.

According to them, 2010-11 foreign investor flows added up to $22 billion, according to official figures. But a cross-check with international sources like exchange-traded funds and EPFR Global (which tracks $ 15 trillion in global investment flows) shows that not more than $4.5 billion came to India. Though it is obvious that EPFR data is not 100 percent foolproof, since its sometimes excludes sovereign and private equity funds, the gap of $17.5 billion is simple too huge to be explained by normal data omissions.

Drawing a cautious conclusion, the Kotak trio calls for better disclosures by FIIs in view of the implications for India’s foreign exchange reserves and balance-of-payments. “More extensive disclosures could well counter any potential concerns that flows could be camouflaging (1) hot money/illicit, unaccounted or black money from overseas accounts of resident Indians, and (2) high levels of proprietary positions of global investment banks, and (3) round-tripped money from Indian companies.”

Put another way, there is a strong possibility that hot money has flowed back into India as things have gotten hotter abroad. In recent months, the Swiss authorities have signed deals with UK and Germany to levy a tax on accounts held by UK and German nationals. In India, the finance ministry has been waffling about double-tax treaties and ruling out amnesty schemes when they could have done the same deal with the Swiss banks. At worst, we would at least have got some additional revenues.

Firstpost has reported on how there is the growing possibility of international whistleblowers publishing lists of Indans with accounts in Swiss banks, which could unmask many politicians, film stars, and even cricketers.

Firstpost has also published several reports on black money, and reported on how the Indian economy had suddenly become an export tiger by showing huge leaps in exports to China, Hong Kong and the Middle East, among other places. In 2011-12, we have seen 53 percent growth in exports (April-August), with July alone showing a spectacular 81 percent.

The unreality of these figures has been clear for some time now, and Commerce Secretary Rahul Khullar has been predicting a slowdown for a few months now. In August, he said he expected a slowing of exports “with almost immediate effect” and that India “would be lucky” to achieve 20 percent export growth in 2011-12, The Financial Express reported.

Far from scripting a huge export success story, the government is working on policies to assist exporters. Quite clearly, officials know something about the export boom that the official figures do not tell.

Another puzzle is more easily explained: why did so much money return to India in 2010-11 – assuming the Kotak thesis is right? The answer: Under the double-tax treaty with the Swiss government, after 1 April 2011, Switzerland will provide details to the Indian government on transactions involving Indians. Little wonder, the money is flying out of the Alps. At last count, Swiss banks reported Indian accounts of only $2.5 billion. Gone are the $500 billion or even $1 trillion that was talked about earlier.

Looks like the Kotak Trio have done what the finance ministry could not: find out where the money is. It is here – at least a huge chunk of it. The rest of it could be coming over the next few years.
 
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Italian vish kanya rules India, she is involved into billions of kickbacks and embezzlement of most projects.

Once this fake Gandhi clan is out of India, India to prosper more....
 
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Many foreign companies see entry into India's booming market as one way of riding out the global financial storm, but Mark Dummett in Delhi says doing business there is not for the faint-hearted.

The ever increasing news of new plants and foreign companies opening here shows something otherwise.

Oops while I was typing this post.. news came out that Hitachi just opened their first R&D Center in India.

Hitachi Opens First R&D Center In Bangalore, India

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Huawei Opens Enterprise Unit in India - WSJ.com

eek.. China too.. can some of the "all weather mvuhaah ,mvuaah guys" caution them on this issue before its too late..
 
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I guess that all but defeats the whole purpose of the article. !! :lol:

If these companies did not bribe the officials, then they do not have anything to worry.
If they think being wronged, they can go to courts.

Trust me once they are paid their dues, they will forget everything and be willing to do business again. How many countries in the world can organize the world events like Olympics and CWG etc?
These companies know that they have to follow some protocols when they are dealing with governments. Regarding not replying to mail and calls, I know from personal experience it is the norm than an exception. Indians are not known for good customer service.
 
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If these companies did not bribe the officials, then they do not have anything to worry.
If they think being wronged, they can go to courts.

Trust me once they are paid their dues, they will forget everything and be willing to do business again. How many countries in the world can organize the world events like Olympics and CWG etc?
These companies know that they have to follow some protocols when they are dealing with governments. Regarding not replying to mail and calls, I know from personal experience it is the norm than an exception. Indians are not known for good customer service.

big multinational companies wont get bully by corrupt officials in india only small private companies do
 
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Incredible India now = India has no credit.

My cousin runs a successful garment business across the world (Europe and N. America). Many years ago, he agreed with an Indian lady running a garment company that he sent her USD and she supplied some sample garment. After he sent out the money (about a few K), the sample garment never arrived. When he called nobody answered phone.

He told me afterwards: I’ll Not Do It Again = India.

LOL! What a coincident!
 
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Incredible India now = India has no credit.

My cousin runs a successful garment business across the world (Europe and N. America). Many years ago, he agreed with an Indian lady running a garment company that he sent her USD and she supplied some sample garment. After he sent out the money (about a few K), the sample garment never arrived. When he called nobody answered phone.

He told me afterwards: I’ll Not Do It Again = India.

LOL! What a coincident!

Is it personal you or general you?

Your personal accounts are not going to help this forum. People will start telling their own experiences with scamster Chinese.

Since you have mentioned your personal experience i would say your cousin is a sore loser who do not know how to run her business.
 
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If these companies did not bribe the officials, then they do not have anything to worry.
If they think being wronged, they can go to courts.

Trust me once they are paid their dues, they will forget everything and be willing to do business again. How many countries in the world can organize the world events like Olympics and CWG etc?
These companies know that they have to follow some protocols when they are dealing with governments. Regarding not replying to mail and calls, I know from personal experience it is the norm than an exception. Indians are not known for good customer service.

Unfortunately some companies have eveything to worry about.
As the article says, some companies are on the brink of folding because of this.
And as far as I can remember (read something about this somewhere else) some companies have trouble getting their stuff back, so either have to reinvest in some expensive equipment or cease doing business.
 
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