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Are you saying that the french or british dont have air superiority??
the whole point of getting air superiority is so that you can do a2g missions without interference from enemy fighters..... and you wont find a single libyan fighter in the skies

not a single libyan fighter in the skies...which fighters were actually there , the old mig-21 , even those are captured by the rables on ground...
so was my point that mission in libya is over rated ...
 
MICA is a very beautiful missile... If you understand this is one of the best missile like Derby.. while Derby can lock on after launch which is more advantage...like Derby MICA can be used both in WVR as well BVR.. Not sure AIM-120 or Meteor or R-77 or Astra can do that way...

because when the enemy comes in WVR range the BVR's above will become useless whereas you can still employ MICA... and you know Missile will win war not the machine... until it comes to the gun battle level.. In modern scenario gun battles will happen 1 in 10 combat

MICA has Lock-On-Before and After Launch capability as well and what makes the EM version even more deadly than Derby is, that it is highly maneuverable with it's TVC capability, which normally only latest SR missiles have. The French use the same frame and propulsion for both missile seekers, what makes MICA EM one of the most maneuverable and light weight, active BVR missiles, with the downside that it don't has the range like others (AFAIK 67Km was the longest confirmed shot). At the same time, that makes MICA IR the only passive missle, that offers BVR the same Lock-On-Before and After Launch capabilities, but also the same BVR range.
So any fighter that is loaded with MICA can use all missiles in WVR and BVR combats, while an fighter loaded with dedicated WVR and BVR missiles, often has only a 2 + 2 config.


how does Rafale going to perform in air combat mission

It detects enemy radar emiters at long range with SPECTRA, get precise target data, gets into a position where the enemy can't detect it, while getting closer to it. When identification is required, SPECTRA cues the FSO TV channel on the target (ID at around 50Km, with the system offered in MMRCA even more), then it can guide MICA IR via IRST, MICA EM with the radar, or use both with the LOAL capability and guided just by SPECTRA.
The AESA radar is used just in addition to SPECTRA, which is the prime feature/sensor of the Rafale, not to mention that the Rafale we will get will have METEOR as well, besides that it is a highly maneuverable fighter in dogfights. So there is no reason to worry about Rafale in air combats, because that was a prime design aim as well, but the French have a unique focus on multi role capability and versatility, be it on the fighters (Mirage / Rafale), or the weapons (MICA / AASM). That makes them not the best in a certain field, but the best allrounder and that is exactly what we need, when we already have the MKI and the LCA.
 
not a single libyan fighter in the skies...which fighters were actually there , the old mig-21 , even those are captured by the rables on ground...
so was my point that mission in libya is over rated ...

That's wrong! The Libyan air force still had fighters and helicopters, that's why the allied forces even made deep strikes on air bases in southern Libya, to take them out. Compared to the latest allied fighters they are of course no match, which is also the reason why the Libyians didn't even tried to fight against Rafales, or F15s in the initial stages of the conflict in air combats. Their air defence on the other hand was taken as more problematic, which is why not even the US F18 Growlers were used before the cruise missile strikes to weakean the SAM and radar sites. Only the French with Rafale seems to had more confidence on their fighter and systems, that's why Rafale was flying over Tripoli, or Benghazi even before these strikes in different roles.
 
MMRCA deal to strengthen India's airspace

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RAJAHMUNDRY, AP (PTI): India proposes to buy 126 fighter aircraft worth over USD 10 billion to strengthen its airspace, Union Minister of State for Defence M M Pallam Raju said Monday.

Talking to reporters here in his home district East Godavari, he said the Defence Ministry has sanctioned over Rs 40,000 crore for the mega deal.

The ministry had shortlisted the European Eurofighter and the French Dassault Rafale for the 126 Medium-Multirole Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) deal.

Pallam Raju said he along with a five-member delegation recently visited Paris and held talks with the French officials over defence matters and other issues of mutual concern.:toast_sign:

"Our talks mainly concentrated on the purchase of 126 fighter planes," he said.


The minister said he would be attending a business conclave being organised in California by the Telugu Association of North America (TANA) later this week.


MMRCA deal to strengthen India's airspace - Brahmand.com
 
MMRCA deal to strengthen India's airspace

11741016964e095b987c6bb.jpg



RAJAHMUNDRY, AP (PTI): India proposes to buy 126 fighter aircraft worth over USD 10 billion to strengthen its airspace, Union Minister of State for Defence M M Pallam Raju said Monday.

Talking to reporters here in his home district East Godavari, he said the Defence Ministry has sanctioned over Rs 40,000 crore for the mega deal.

The ministry had shortlisted the European Eurofighter and the French Dassault Rafale for the 126 Medium-Multirole Combat Aircraft (MMRCA) deal.

Pallam Raju said he along with a five-member delegation recently visited Paris and held talks with the French officials over defence matters and other issues of mutual concern.:toast_sign:

"Our talks mainly concentrated on the purchase of 126 fighter planes," he said.


The minister said he would be attending a business conclave being organised in California by the Telugu Association of North America (TANA) later this week.


MMRCA deal to strengthen India's airspace - Brahmand.com

That seems to indicate that rafale has been chosen unless there is news of a similar delegation being sent to germany or britain.....
 
Some more pics of possible Rafale upgrades from the Paris Air Show:

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Rafale fighters make emergency landing - timesofmalta.com

Two French Air Force Rafale fighters landing in Malta last night after one of them reported a technical problem.

The Rafale is the most modern fighter in the French Air Force - a rival to the Eurofighter.

This was the fifth time that pairs of French military aircraft needed to make an emergency landing because of technical or fuel problems.

The French aircraft arrivals included relatively old Mirage fighters and two Super Etendard bombers.
 
Rafale fighters make emergency landing - timesofmalta.com

Two French Air Force Rafale fighters landing in Malta last night after one of them reported a technical problem.

The Rafale is the most modern fighter in the French Air Force - a rival to the Eurofighter.

This was the fifth time that pairs of French military aircraft needed to make an emergency landing because of technical or fuel problems.

The French aircraft arrivals included relatively old Mirage fighters and two Super Etendard bombers.

the rafale even encountered some problems during aero india........ Hope the technical issues are nothing serious
 
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