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India savors Russian friendship
By M K Bhadrakumar

The morning after can be as significant as the day before. What strikes the eye are two developments, in Moscow and Delhi, the morning after Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin left the Indian capital on Friday after an eventful working visit.

There is no country outside Russia where Putin is widely admired as a statesman as in India. He strikes chords in the Indian psyche that are difficult to explain except in the totality of what has come to be known as "Putinism" and his historic role in Russia's resurgence.

During Putin's visit, Russia stitched up multi-billion dollar contracts in the military and civil nuclear sectors. The list of



contracts and agreements is truly impressive:

$1.5 billion deal for the supply of 29 additional MiG-29 Fulcrum D-based fighter aircraft.

An agreement to sign a contract on the joint development of a new fifth-generation fighter.

A revised deal of $2.3 billion on the upgraded Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier with a displacement capacity of 45,000 tons, a maximum speed of 32 knots (59 kilometers per hour) and a range of 13,500 nautical miles (25,000 kilometers) at a cruising speed of 18 knots.

Deals to establish a joint venture to produce navigation equipment for GPS (global positioning system) and its Russian equivalent Glonass, and the use of Glonass signal for military use by India.

An array of agreements for the construction of up to 16 nuclear power plants in India worth tens of billions of dollars at the very least.

Priority lies with US ties
However, life moves on. No sooner than Putin returned to Moscow, than the Kremlin announced that US President Barack Obama had phoned his Russian counterpart Dmitry Medvedev to discuss the "final stages of preparation" of the new Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty and they agreed that "it is now possible to talk about specific dates" for initialing the agreement.

The Kremlin is eager to start the "reset" of Russia-US ties and may well drop its demand that any new arms reduction deal should be linked to the US's missile plans in Central Europe.

In Delhi, too, the government has mooted a new legislation on Monday whose unstated purpose - some say, sole purpose - is to enable the US nuclear industry to secure multi-billion dollars worth business in the Indian market.

The US-Russia-India triangle offers a great study of paradoxes. Russia and India are advocates of a democratized international system, which they hope to influence. Neither is a satiated power, while both see a window of opportunity in the emerging polycentric world order.

Yet both estimate that the US's pre-eminence as the sole superpower is not under any serious challenge, and neither has any doubt that its equations with Washington shall remain its foreign policy priority.

Putin's successful visit to Delhi needs to be seen in perspective. India and Russia drifted apart in the 1990s and both went through transformative periods that saw the birth of new elites and economic models and societal changes.

Delhi, Moscow and AfPak

Indian opinion today is supportive of the rising curve of the country's post-Cold War strategic partnership with the US. Russia has a constituency of cold warriors, but it is a dwindling tribe and meanwhile, Moscow's aspiration too is to retain its privileged status as Washington's interlocutor on issues of global strategic balance.

Therefore, when the Indian leadership expresses its desire to Putin for an intensification of consultations with the Kremlin regarding the Afghan problem, Delhi's intentions are quite pragmatic. Delhi does not seek strategic defiance of the US in Afghanistan and it knows that for Russia, Afghanistan is not only about al-Qaeda and Taliban but is also related to its search for a new era of "post-Euro-Atlanticism".

An al-Qaeda problem may or may not appear in North Caucasus and Russia would be worried if Afghanistan once again becomes a revolving door for international terrorism. But India's concerns are tangible, very specific and are primarily related to its adversarial relationship with Pakistan.

Moscow can help by alleviating Delhi's near-total diplomatic isolation over the Afghan problem and putting the brakes on a Taliban takeover in Kabul that is fine-tuned by Pakistan. By virtue of its role as a permanent member of the UN Security Council, Russia has a say in any Afghan settlement.

Putin suggested while in Delhi that Indians' view of Pakistan as a state sponsoring terrorism needs to be mellowed. From the Russian perspective, Pakistan is a key player in the great game in Central Asia. Moscow (and Beijing) will remain wary of driving Pakistan into isolation as a client state of the US.

Ideally speaking, Delhi should gain from Russian or Chinese efforts to moderate Pakistan's adversarial mindset, but Delhi depends almost entirely today on the US. Curiously, India's dependency on the US is only helping to strengthen Pakistan's geopolitical positioning.

Islamabad estimates that the US regional strategies in Afghanistan can work only with its cooperation and it expects in return that Washington accommodate its aspirations as a regional power.

The Obama administration on one hand needs to get Pakistan on board as a key regional ally, since without Islamabad, plans for the stabilization of Afghanistan and the enlargement of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) will get nowhere. But on the other, Washington still needs to string India along.

So far, the US has heavily counted on the fact that Delhi has not explored other options than going along with it, given India's disputes with China and its atrophied ties with Russia. But if a fine comb is run through Putin's visit to Delhi, a sense of frustration is discernible in the Indian mind about the US's regional policies.

Delhi feels let down
Afghanistan is a thorn in the flesh. The Indian elites feel let down. Arguably, even the boisterous American lobby in the Indian elites would feel embarrassed as their prognosis of the US and India living happily ever after comes unstuck in the face of icy cold geopolitical realities.

The Indian government cooperated with the US to an astonishing degree by dovetailing their Afghan policy with the US's AfPak objectives; by "breaking down walls and bureaucratic obstacles between the two countries' intelligence and investigating agencies" - to quote American expert Lisa Curtis of Heritage Foundation in a recent US Congressional testimony and supporting a US/NATO military presence in the region. India also scrupulously avoided any sort of coordination with other regional countries such as Russia, Iran or China lest that might irritate Washington.

Nonetheless, the Obama administration is gearing up to engage the Taliban in league with the Pakistani military. That was not the impression the Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh got during his "state visit" to Washington last November. The US officials may explain that the Indians have a fixation about the Taliban and Pakistani military. But the Indians simply do not see any significant shift in the Pakistani military's mindset towards jihadi groups operating in the region.

Nor does Delhi believe that the Taliban are capable of power-sharing or independent of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence. In the Indian perception, Taliban and the Pakistan-based terrorist groups such as Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) are birds of the same feather and they will flock together.

Washington has viewed LeT primarily through an India-Pakistan lens and calculated that the group did not pose a direct threat to US interests. To quote Curtis, "The US officials have shied away from pressuring Pakistan on the LeT in the interest of garnering Pakistani cooperation against targets the US believed were more critical to immediate US objectives."

Over and above, Obama shows no sign of a rethink on the US's embargo on the transfer of "dual-use technology" to India. While India no longer takes to Cold War-era rhetoric to air its differences with the US, there is disquiet in Delhi about the US's military assistance to Pakistan.

Against this backdrop, Delhi's move to revive ties with Moscow stands out. Delhi cannot hope to source from anywhere else the advanced military technology that the Russians willingly offer - the global navigation satellite system, aircraft carrier, nuclear-powered attack submarine, state-of-the-art missiles and fighter aircraft.

Ironically, the nuclear deal India signed with the US in 2008 lies unimplemented due to Obama's reluctance to transfer "dual-use technology" to India, but it provided just the international non-proliferation framework Moscow needed to boost cooperation with Delhi on a range of sensitive areas such as reprocessing technology, joint thorium fuel cycle nuclear power projects and fast-neutron reactors.

In short, the Indian leadership has returned to a precept that it ignored; namely, that with a world power like Russia, it is not possible to cooperate except on the basis of special relations. However, the realization is yet to dawn on the elites in Delhi that an optimal foreign policy vis-a-vis the US will still continue to elude India in the absence of a profound dialogue with China on regional security.



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The Indian government cooperated with the US to an astonishing degree by dovetailing their Afghan policy with the US's AfPak objectives; by "breaking down walls and bureaucratic obstacles between the two countries' intelligence and investigating agencies" - to quote American expert Lisa Curtis of Heritage Foundation in a recent US Congressional testimony and supporting a US/NATO military presence in the region.

Pls can u provide any details on this testimony.. where can i find it?

As for the rest..India cannot reconcile with the idea of power sharing by taliban in view of the help rendered by it to the 1999 hijacking, destruction of bamiyan etc. This fictious "moderate" taliban crap is just an excuse for US troops to go home.. I have always supported a pro-Russian stance for India. Sure they are greedy and build lousy migs, but they have always backed us through and through. We also see eye to eye with iran on the "moderate" taliban.
Obama- the guy started out with "change", "yes we can", "hope", another dose of "change".. all he has achieved is alienation.:disagree:
 
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Pls can u provide any details on this testimony.. where can i find it?As for the rest..India cannot reconcile with the idea of power sharing by taliban in view of the help rendered by it to the 1999 hijacking, destruction of bamiyan etc. This fictious "moderate" taliban crap is just an excuse for US troops to go home.. I have always supported a pro-Russian stance for India. Sure they are greedy and build lousy migs, but they have always backed us through and through. We also see eye to eye with iran on the "moderate" taliban.
Obama- the guy started out with "change", "yes we can", "hope", another dose of "change".. all he has achieved is alienation.:disagree:


The is written by a known Indian diplomate and he is known in Indian circles. So you should ask him for testimony . I think if he said it then he is saying it with conviction.
 
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But he is not stressing on what LeT is rather he is more focusing on options for India after the US and even Russia snubs India not to go nuts over Afghanistan and Pakistani commitment against terrorism.

But thats another issue.

here the learned Indian ex-diplomate is rightly putting the scenario which has moulted after US realised the mistake and agreed to take Taliban onboard for peace in the region.


Indeed Now India needs Iran and Russia to have some role in Afghanistan
 
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India asks the world to stay the course in Afghanistan

Asking for caution in new initiatives on security, reintegration, and reconciliation in Afghanistan, Rao said: 'We believe that any reintegration process should include only those who abjure violence, give up armed struggle and terrorism and are willing to abide by the values of democracy, pluralism and human rights.'

'One cannot stress enough the need to avoid compromises or differentiation between the so-called shades and hues of the Taliban,' she said stressing 'That would be disastrous for Afghanistan and for the world. In short, there is no quick solution to the ****** situation.'

Rao also opposed any sanctions on Iran that would have a direct impact on the common people of the country and hoped the issues between Tehran and the international community will be resolved through dialogue.

'It continues to be our view that sanctions that target Iranian people and cause difficulties to the ordinary man, woman and child would not be conducive to a resolution of this question,' she said in response to a question.

'We do not want more instability in that region. Iran is very much a part of our region. Iran for instance has a very important role to play in the developing situation in Afghanistan and we of course have strong bilateral ties with Iran,' Rao said



India is seriously reaching out to Iran..
 
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India asks the world to stay the course in Afghanistan

Asking for caution in new initiatives on security, reintegration, and reconciliation in Afghanistan, Rao said: 'We believe that any reintegration process should include only those who abjure violence, give up armed struggle and terrorism and are willing to abide by the values of democracy, pluralism and human rights.'

'One cannot stress enough the need to avoid compromises or differentiation between the so-called shades and hues of the Taliban,' she said stressing 'That would be disastrous for Afghanistan and for the world. In short, there is no quick solution to the ****** situation.'

Rao also opposed any sanctions on Iran that would have a direct impact on the common people of the country and hoped the issues between Tehran and the international community will be resolved through dialogue.

'It continues to be our view that sanctions that target Iranian people and cause difficulties to the ordinary man, woman and child would not be conducive to a resolution of this question,' she said in response to a question.

'We do not want more instability in that region.


Sorry the world is not moving on the basis of Indian desires. The world had acknowledged that Afghan fighters are part of Afghanistan and local people who need to be included in the talks. Simple as that and they are altready talking and hopes for peace is in sight

Iran is very much a part of our region. Iran for instance has a very important role to play in the developing situation in Afghanistan and we of course have strong bilateral ties with Iran,' Rao said
India is seriously reaching out to Iran..

Indeed India is reaching to Iran seriously after India lost it in Afghanistan.

During its honeymoon with US, India failed to mention Iran earlier now when Indian hopes for riding on the back of US in Afghanistan are dashed to ground, the panic has gripped Bharat and now you are reaching out to Iran, and Russia for having some role in Afghanistan.
 
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It is indeed true that India has fever options if USA decides to look in opposite direction vis-a-vis a'nistan-pakistan in its desperation to somewhat salvage its war on terror operations. The USA, unlike in Iraq, is finding itself sinking in a quagmire of its own blunders in Afghanistan. Its body language, especially after growing reluctance among NATO allies of maintaining the required presence, leave alone intensifying the offensive operations, is increasingly revealing a strange discomfiture that is reflecting in its ever changing views and policies on pakistan.

India on the other hand has been a willing partner in USA's war on terror operations in afganistan, but has wisely kept its presence rather covert fully knowing the USA's volatile policy vis-a-vis pakistan.

Whether US chooses to trust moderate Taliban to facilitate its facesaving withdrawal from afghanistan or chooses to trust Pakistan to allow it to again spread its influence over afghanistan has more serious consequences for USA than India in the current situation.

In the event, India concedes its defeat in acheiving what it wanted to achieve in Afghanistan and winds up whatever presence it has there, it again loses much less as its influence in the region has never been any stronger in the past.
 
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India, Russia Sign Energy, Defense Deals Worth Billions of Dollars


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Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin (left) shakes hands with Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh following a joint statement to the press in New Delhi on March 12, 2010. /AFP


A short visit to India by Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin has allowed New Delhi and Moscow to strengthen their strategic partnership, which has had its ups and downs since the end of the Cold War era.

Indian and Russian officials say the two prime ministers held wide-ranging discussions.

Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh says his talks with Putin went beyond the 22 agreements they signed. "There is much that India and Russia can do together to advance global peace and stability and the process of global economic revival. We've agreed to intensify our consultations on Afghanistan and the challenges posed by terrorism and extremism in our region," he said.

But most of the attention focused on the billions of dollars worth of deals they signed.

To help India meet a shortage of electricity for its booming economy, Russia is to build between 12 and 16 nuclear power plants here, six of them by 2017. Russia is already constructing two units in the southern state of Tamil Nadu.

Earlier in the day, during a video conference with Indian business leaders gathered in several cities, Putin said Russia would also supply India with fuel for the reactors and cooperate on disposal of nuclear waste from the new plants. He called Russia's nuclear technology among the safest in the world.

One of the most significant agreements is intended to settle a protracted dispute over the sale and refurbishing of a Russian aircraft carrier that is to be delivered to India's Navy by the end of 2012. The two countries originally agreed on a price of about US$950 million for the Admiral Gorshkov. Now it is believed to be $2.3 billion.

India has also agreed to buy 69 additional fighter jets from Russia.

The Russian prime minister also announced the two countries will work together to develop a 50th-generation combat aircraft. "Until now Russia has worked alone on the project," he said. "But significant progress has been made and the joint effort with India will yield considerable additional results."

Indian officials say the aircraft will be built within the next six years and based on the prototype of the Russian T-50 stealth fighter.

A Russian expert, Professor Anuradha Chenoy of Jawaharlal Nehru University, says India has good reason to continue looking to Russia for critical supplies and enhanced cooperation. "Repeatedly, Russians give India technology and assistance in defense, in space, in nuclear civilian use which you do not get from anywhere else," he said. "And this has been an old pattern and this has been proved once again."

India is one of the world's top weapons importers. And Russia is trying to maintain the dominant position it held since the Soviet era as the lead foreign supplier to India's military.

The Chosun Ilbo (English Edition): Daily News from Korea - India, Russia Sign Energy, Defense Deals Worth Billions of Dollars





 
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The Russian prime minister also announced the two countries will work together to develop a 50th-generation combat aircraft. "Until now Russia has worked alone on the project," he said. "But significant progress has been made and the joint effort with India will yield considerable additional results."

Oh My God :woot: :cheesy: :no:
 
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50th gen aircraft....do we need an airforce now...just send a couple of them to finish whole airforce.:rofl::rofl:
 
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yeah I wuz going to say that.......dang it, we are already working on 50th generation fighter jet.:lol:
 
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Yes. 50th generation aircraft is totally stealth, , human eye invisible and uav type. Without pilots. .its unlimited range coz of nuclear powered. .no need of misiles. .it has star treck trademark laser weapons. .capable of destroying any targets as far as 500 km.it can also go in the space for parking satelites.
. ..only 50 such aircraft is more than sufficient . .does any body wants more info?
 
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