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Pakistanis are running scared

They fear india will Control all the indus Water AND start to diveret even more water away from Pakistan.

SEEMS india has the destiny of Pakistan in hands in terms of

Agriculture irritgation
Energy and power
Leaving pak dry and arid


Shocking part of Pakistani clip

in 45 YEARS since indus water treaty Pakistan has built just 2 new Dams to control water YET india has built 4000

one third of all water coming from indus is wasted via leakages in Pakistan via poor irrigation.

Pakistanis have invested no money or time on reservoirs or storage or dams

YET ARE BALING INDIA whio is building hydro power stations and dams in hundreds all across the HIMLAYERS BORDER LINE

50 IN JAMMU AND KASHMIR ALONE

PAKISTAN FEARS INDIA CAN EITHER FLOOD THEM OR STOP THE WATER COMPLETELY
 
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indus water treaty is an example to world, its more or less well respected till now. and i comdamp building of any illegal damp or powerstation by anyone

cool down guys.. hide the zh, nm inside you and bring out mamnoon , manmohan.
 
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The thing thst shocked me pakistanis havecinvested,no money in controlling and stopping wastage of water

You are completely at india.s mercy .

No investment on power stations or dams.

This cave Man mentality we will send nasrs to Indian dams is false bravado.

Your hatred,of india and constant fixation on war means your not spendung on development
 
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Few nasr missiles will remove any illegal dams

You do realize that if you, or anyone capable of, were to actually implement that 'marvelous idea', a good part of Pakistan, no, make that the most fertile part of Pakistan, is going to be swimming in an unadulterated soup of fresh radiation. It's almost collective euthanasia, except it would be slow and painful, horrific and maddening, I guess hara-kiri would be a better word, but without the disembowelment.

And not to mention after that stroke of genius denuding your crops with irradiated water, and by extension your not-so-sacred cows, you will almost certainly need to beg, plead and grovel infidel, vegetarian India for food. On that part you don't need to worry, though: we have plenty of Pare-G and Tiger Biscuits.

It's almost like a great many number of PDF veterans were suddenly exposed to radiation from the NASR (not the bomb itself, just its mention), and the little light bulbs in their heads (we call common sense) blew out and the part of the brain responsible for IQ and logical reasoning overclocked into self-fry mode. There can be no other explanation for the irrational statements that seem gush forth everytime the word 'NASR' gets mentioned.

You want to nuke them dams, kid? We'll paint the biggest bull's eye on them. Hell, we'll provide you the bombs you need to nuke those god-damned 'damns'.
 
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Few nasr missiles will remove any illegal dams

All you have to do is go to the arbitrar to remove any illegal dams.

But looks like you are smarter than your post and know the reality behind these baseless accusations. And you typed the nasr bit just to make your quota of daily nuclear threats.
 
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Few nasr missiles will remove any illegal dams

India tests Agni...... 3-4 NASR will take care of it...

India goes to Mars................. We will fire a dozen NASR missiles

India inducts S400------- Fikar not.... NASR hai na

India wins Cricket World Cup............... NASR NASR NASR

Come an actual war....

India destroys NASR batteries and enforces a no fly zone throughout Pakistan (S400/ AWACS :partay: )............. We will launch 100 NASR... :man_in_love::help::help::alcoholic:oops !!!!
 
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Few nasr missiles will remove any illegal dams

There is no illegal dams. India has right to build run off river dams for generating electricity under IWT.

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ICA’s verdict on Baglihar dam is ‘bad’
Commissioner says Pakistan made many mistakes in finalising Indus Water Treaty | Urges depending on own resources for building large reservoirs
March 22, 2015/ 1 Comment
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Salman Abduhu

LAHORE - Indus Water Commission (IWC) Chairman Mirza Asif Baig says International Court of Arbitration’s recent ruling on Baglihar Dam was wrong and controversial as it was against the provisions of Indus Water Treaty.
“The judgment in Baglihar (dam) case was bad, (and it was) given by bad judges who have controversial repute. Pakistan lost despite the fact that country’s case was contested well,” he told media persons here on Saturday after a seminar, organised by the Institution of Engineers Pakistan to mark the World Water Day.
The International Court of Arbitration’s (ICA) gave a verdict in favour of India after months of legal wrangling between Islamabad and New Delhi. India is going ahead with the Baglihar dam project, while Pakistan says that under the agreement between the two countries it did not have the right to set up a project which denied Pakistan its share of water. Islamabad is now considering other options to protect its rights.
IWC Chairman Mirza Asif Baig in his address stressed the need for depending on our own resources for building of large dams instead of relying on international donors like World Bank or Agriculture Development Bank (ADB). Pakistan can easily allocate Rs200-300 billion for construction of big dams, he said.
Pakistan, according to him, made several mistakes in finalising the Indus Water Treaty, signed in 1960. The agreement settled the longstanding dispute between the two arch rivals which both in later years achieved nuclear capability.
Pakistan, at present, has water storage capacity of just 9 percent (30 days) against international average capacity of 40 percent. India’s storage capacity can meet more than 100 days’ needs, he said. Moreover, lack of operational capacity did not let Pakistan take full advantage of the Indus Water Treaty which served India’s interests better.
He said that India fully utilised its resources in terms of money and technicalities, and built dams and barrages, thus becoming the main beneficiary of the Indus Water Treaty. The IWC chairman was of the view that the destruction caused by floods could have been averted if the country had invested more in dams. Baig believed Pakistan needed big dams on the Indus River.
IEP Lahore Centre chairman Engr Khalid Sajjad said new water reservoirs are crucial, given the country’s looming water and energy crises, against a backdrop of rapid urbanization, population growth, food insecurity and growing water demand from industry.
He said that dams facilitate water regulation and the increased storage capacity from building new reservoirs could store floodwater for productive use and lessen flood peaks downstream. He pointed out that dams also provide valuable water storage for agriculture and “if we can control water by investing in big dams, we can overcome the electricity crisis and improve our agriculture”.
Pakistan is fast becoming a water scarce country, as country’s per capita water availability is presently estimated at 950 cubic metres, quite a dip from 5,500 cubic metres in 1951,” said Khalid Sajjad. “If we continue business as usual, how will we meet the water needs of a growing population?” he asked, and warned, “We can lose the country without entering into a war with India if we did not build dams, especially KBD.”
Indus Water Council Pakistan Chairman Suleman Khan in his speech said that the Indus basin irrigates about 14 million hectares of land in Pakistan – the largest irrigated area in the world – for which a huge amount of water is needed. With only two existing major reservoirs in the Indus basin i.e. Mangla and Tarbela, the storage capacity of Pakistan is only about 30 days while most of the developed countries have 1-2 years water storage capability.
He favoured dams over solar and wind energy, as the multi-purpose dams do much more than electricity generation as seen in the case of the Tarbela and Mangla dams which expanded cultivable areas, he added. The seminar was also addressed by other speakers including Planning Commission convener Engr Ameer Zameer and Dr Javed Younus Uppal.


ICA’s verdict on Baglihar dam is ‘bad’
 
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Few nasr missiles will remove any illegal dams

:rofl::rofl: There's something seriously wrong with some pakistanis... everytime something comes up they want to Nasr this Nasr that :lol::lol: no wonder Pakistan is a ticking bomb. Wonder if you guys are given the control of Nasr.. the whole world would be ended in days
 
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Winners are losers, and vice versa, in Indus water battle
Shaukat Qadir
April 1, 2013
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News media in India and Pakistan almost all reported February's International Court of Arbitration decision on the Kishanganga Dam issue the same way: Pakistan had "lost" another case over the 1960 Indus Waters Treaty (IWT), and India had "won".
In the Pakistan-India context everything, from cricket to arbitration to war, is a defeat or a victory for the two nations to mourn or celebrate. Still, this seemed like a body blow to Pakistan, following as it did a 2007 decision in India's favour by a World Bank arbitrator on another IWT case, involving the Baglihar Dam.
But was this year's ruling really so bad?
At independence, the boundary left the sources of the six rivers of the Indus Basin in India. Pakistan was downstream and therefore vulnerable. The IWT was supposed to assure Pakistan of a reasonable flow of water. But now, and especially since the Baglihar Dam decision, the IWT has seemed to many in Pakistan to be one-sided in India's favour.
Kishanganga is an Indian dam project, started in 2007 to be completed in 2016. It will divert water from the Kishanganga River into the Jehlum River basin. Pakistan objects because in 2008 it began building its own dam downstream, where the Kishanganga is called the Neelam. This dam too is due for completion in 2016.
Pakistan's claim to the International Court of Arbitration was based on the fact that the Indian dam will cut the flow to the Pakistani one, and thus reduce power potential there.
On the face of it, Pakistan's "loss" on Kishanganga was a foregone conclusion. An annexe to the 1960 treaty authorises actions such as India's provided that "then-existing agricultural or hydroelectric use by Pakistan … would not be adversely effected".
Since construction on the Neelam-Jehlum project began after work on the Kishanganga one, many observers saw no point in Pakistan going to the international court.
Worse, a "loss" for Pakistan threatened further negative consequences. Another Indian victory, critics suggested, would only reinforce the view that India is playing by the IWT rules, while Pakistan is raising spurious objections. That view has been confirmed by much of the media reporting on the decision.
I shared that view - but only until I read the decision. That's when I learnt the underreported fact that this ruling in fact works in Pakistan's favour.
In dam jargon, "dead storage" is a reservoir where water is left for sediment to settle. In the Baglihar Dam case of 2007, Pakistan had claimed that excessive dead storage behind that Indian dam would give India too much control over the water flow in time of tension or war.
In taking the Kishanganga case to the court, Pakistan revived the dead storage issue as part of its case. Needless to add, India objected to Pakistan's inclusion of an already-settled issue. But India agreed to binding arbitration on Kishanganga, probably because it was confident of winning at arbitration and assumed that the dead storage issue was already dead.
Indian officials must be regretting those assumptions now, because the ICA not only addressed the Baglihar Dam dead storage issue, but effectively reversed the decision of the World Bank-appointed arbitrator.

In the decision on Baglihar in 2007 by the international arbitrator, it appeared that India could, on the plea of "sediment flushing", raise the "live storage" (the level of water in operational use) to any level it wanted. This latest ruling reverses this, declaring that India must not increase the "live" or "dead" storage level of water beyond the level permitted by the treaty, including sediment flushing.
In the words of South African water expert John Briscoe, who appointed the original World Bank arbitrator, it now appears that with the court's Kishanganga ruling, India may have "won another battle, but lost the war".
The Kishanganga ruling will have a negative effect on power production from Pakistan's Neelam Jehlum project. But the reduction from planned power production is not likely to exceed 25 per cent.
However, the de facto reversal of the Baglihar Dam ruling is much more important, and will go a long way towards addressing Pakistan's concerns about water security under the Indus Waters Treaty.
It is hard to believe that the Pakistani government has the subtlety required to discern in advance that it had a chance to win this reversal.

And it is surprising that so far the media have mainly ignored the implications of the arbitration court's most recent ruling. It is perhaps understandable that Indian officials should shy away from making their discomfiture public. But why isn't Pakistan's government making a point of this, particularly if this was an intended ploy?
Perhaps the answer is that this is an unexpected result that Pakistan's leadership does not yet quite comprehend.
That seems more likely, given the nature of Pakistani leadership.
Brig Shaukat Qadir is a retired Pakistani infantry officer


Winners are losers, and vice versa, in Indus water battle | The National
 
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