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India, Russia and Abe’s posturing

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The Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe’s visit last Thursday to the Yasukuni Shrine, the controversial war memorial to the country’s dead could have been foretold, but when it actually happened, it raised eyebrows. China and Japan are heading into an acrimonious new year. Where does that leave Russia and India?

China’s Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Tokyo must bear the “full responsibility for the serious political consequences” of Abe’s visit. Xinhua called the visit “a calculated provocation to stoke further tension... (and) is the culmination of Abe’s year-long policy of right-wing nationalism.” It claimed that Abe’s visit is “stirring up nightmare memories among Japan’s neighboring countries (here). However, Beijing will unlikely take any concrete response. Apart from condemning Abe’s visit and extracting propaganda advantage, Beijing will undoubtedly take comfort in the US government’s (and American media’s) strong disapproval of the Japanese prime minister’s decision. According to Japan’s Jiji Press, Washington “worked again and again behind the scenes” to block Abe’s visit to the shrine. Besides, Abe’s game plan could be to provoke China to react in a way that inflames tensions, which in turn would help him domestically to push through his nationalist agenda to get rid of Japan’s “peace constitution”. No doubt, a complicated calculus is at work here.
There is a cycle of useless posturing going on between China and Japan – although neither is gaining the moral high ground as a result. Ironically, Abe has ably neutralized China’s image as a bullying hegemon. On the other hand, Abe has dashed any immediate prospects of improving ties with South Korea, the US’ other fellow ally in the region, which are already strained.

Of course, he risks drawing attention to Tokyo’s increasingly aggressivedefence strategy and militarism.

Neither Russia nor India felt it necessary to pronounce on China’s air defence zone; nor are they going to say anything on Abe’s visit to the shrine. However, it is not as if they are not affected by the tensions in the Asia-Pacific. Russia and India are working hard to build the sinews of a long-term partnership with Japan. Both consider that coming to terms with China’s rise poses a major challenge and constitutes a top priority in their foreign policies.

There has been a leap forward in India-Japan strategic ties through 2013. The joint statement issued after Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s visit to Japan in May testifies to the keenness of the two countries to consolidate and transform their partnership and give it a India new direction “taking into account changes in the strategic environment.” India recently rolled out the red carpet for the Japanese Emperor Akihito, whose visit early December was hailed as a “historic milestone” President Pranab Mukherjee. Abe is due to visit India in January as the Guest of Honor on India’s Republic Day. The two countries are building up Abe’s visit as a turning point in India-Japan strategic partnership.

Similarly, 2013 has been an extraordinary year for Russo-Japanese relations. Abe paid a landmark visit to Moscow in April during which the two leaderships agreed to revive the talks on the territorial dispute over the Kurile Islands, the vexed issue that prevents them from signing a peace treaty to bring their World War II hostilities to a formal end. There has been spectacular follow-up since then with Japan hosting its first-ever meet at foreign and defence minister level with Russia within the so-called 2+2 format at Tokyo in November. Russia becomes only the second country with which Japan has such a special format of strategic dialogue.

The Russian President Vladimir Putin’s formal message of greetings to Emperor Akihito on his birthday last week exceeded the call of protocol. Putin
wrote, “I am confident that further expansion of the whole range of Russian- Japanese relations in the spirit of true partnership is in the fundamental interests of our nations and consistent with promoting stability and security in the Asia-Pacific region.” Curiously, even as Abe was visiting the Yasukuni Shrine, the minister of economy, trade and industry in his cabinet was in Moscow holding discussions on the prospects of accelerating Japan’s investments in the non-resource economic sector of Russia’s Far East.
Clearly, both Russia and India are hoping to draw more Japanese investments into their economy. Indeed, Japan also has strong motivation to transform its relationship with Russia and India. Both Putin and Manmohan Singh are known to be keen to foster ties with Japan. But the lingering wariness of the Japanese businessmen regarding the demanding conditions of the Russian and Indian market remains a stumbling block.

However, here we may draw line. India is far better placed than Russia vis-à-vis Japan insofar as its baggage of history is less burdensome. Japan’s “soft power” in India is way above China’s – and in some ways even exceeds Russia’s. India never fought wars with Japan or seized territories from it.

On the other hand, Russia is Japan’s immediate neighbor and is an established Asia-Pacific power, whereas that is not the case with India. While Russia has been hugely successful in steadying its strategic partnership with China, it also would have an affinity with Japan insofar as both are secondary players in the Asia-Pacific where China’s dominance is a geopolitical reality.

Russia also has specific concerns over the brewing rivalries in the Arctic. China, which calls itself a “near-Arctic state” and an “Arctic stakeholder”, does not intend to be a passive member of the Arctic Council. And Russia is only one among China’s partners. The Central Asian region may be a backyard for Russia, but the Arctic is its castle.

Interestingly, on the same day that Abe undertook the visit to the shrine, Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida disclosed that Japan and Russia will meet in Tokyo on January 31to discuss territorial issues and economic cooperation. Kishida expressed the hope that the meeting could shore up Japan-Russia relationship on the whole and would be conducive to progress in concluding a peace treaty. Indeed, Putin’s expected visit to Japan next year may turn out to be a defining moment in the search for some consensus formula for the territorial dispute over the Kuriles.

However, there are limits to the partnerships that Japan can forge with India or Russia. Of course, India remains averse to forming alliances. It also lacks a “bloc mentality.” Furthermore, it places the highest importance to settling the border dispute with China and to putting Sino-Indian relationship on an even keel, which demand an independent foreign policy. For Russia, too, the improvement of relations with Japan cannot be at the cost of its expanding strategic partnership with China. Besides, neither Japan nor Russia could be actually seeking to create binding mutual commitments, since both are on the lookout for ways to enhance their respective positions in the Asia-Pacific.
Again, unlike with India-Japan relations, the tempo of the Russo-Japanese relationship has a direct linkage with the Russian-American ties, considering that two decades into the post-Cold War era Tokyo still remains Washington’s key (and irreplaceable) ally in the Asia-Pacific. Having said that, Moscow would be keenly looking for signs of Abe putting Japan on a path of increasing diplomatic self-reliance. No one expects Abe to buck his only ally, the United States, anytime soon, but his pursuit of a more independent path is implicit in his visit to the Shrine last Thursday. Of course, on the outer side of interpretation, Abe is also leading Japan to adopt a more muscular response to its surrounding regional environment. This interplay of fluctuating tendencies in Tokyo’s reflexes would introduce a degree of ambivalence into Russia’s intentions toward Japan. Even as Moscow and Tokyo draw closer, Russia also keeps up its military posture.

In comparison, India-Japan relationship remains transparent and predictable. Things could of course change if their defence cooperation really takes off and assumes a cutting edge, but that remains in the womb of time.

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A tripartite strategic relation between Japan,Russia and India is impossible when US is pulling the strings.They would not allow a military bloc to come in power when they themselves are gradually losing strategic footprint in Sino-Pacific region.

Russia or USA do not see themselves as enemies, USA is targeting china (atleast it looks like USA and China are going to compete for influence).
 
Between Russia and Japan can not be a close relationship. At least as long as they do not stop demanding part of the territory of the Russian Far East.
 
These Chinese will even consider me going to my house a provocation.

Indian going to AP is a provocation.

Japanese going to honor their soldiers is a provocation.

Slowly but steadily the Chinese are having a separate rule for themselves and a different one for others just like the Americans.
 
Neither China nor US would allow a third party alliance.if a third party alliance comes in power in Asia then China's ambition of becoming a global superpower would be in jeopardy as well as US military presence in Asia which is mainly based in Japan will meet a fatal end.So a tripartite pact is not possible in all scenarios.
What i don't understand is why US is neglecting India-China border situation as India would be a valuable ally in containing China

USA will back firmly any anti China alliance. USA pivot to Asia points to that fact. Again one never know the true motives of the two countries.
 
A tripartite strategic relation between Japan,Russia and India is impossible when US is pulling the strings.They would not allow a military bloc to come in power when they themselves are gradually losing strategic footprint in Sino-Pacific region.

This Tripartite Strategic Relationship is hardly a Military Bloc in the making! Russia is simply looking at reclaiming some of its older Importance. And needless to add, India is very wary of getting into any Military Alliances with anybody. India will create relationships as required but it will still be NAM ver.2.0
While Japanese are building up their bulwarks. Do you think that its happening without the US okay?
The Cold War thinking is pretty much kaputt.
 
Some statements made by some US officials and their politicians is ridiculous.Recently they told they will help India to become a global power.Fact India is already a world power.
A super power like US dont like rise of a powerful India that can match them in long term,especially India pursue an independent foriegn policy.It is simple .No one like power sharing .So how can US help us.?That indeed a lie.
US will not allow a tripartite alliance like that.Because it simply eroded their influence in Japan.
Russia and India is not under the control of US ,infact both countries has ability to challenge US pressure and Russia is completely against US.Similarly their is border dispute between Japan and Russia.
Now in the case China ,that alliance is completely dangerous to them.

India grows on our own strengths :cheers:

That is something that US is feared about.Well capacity , well ability and at the same time can developed advanced technologically ,survived sanctions of US and its stooges .US cant influence India foriegn policy.China is more powerful than India and can compete US.But US has advantage ,they are democracy.But when India comes ,it is not good for US because India also democracy.
 
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That is something that US is feared about.Well capacity , well ability and at the same time can developed advanced technologically ,survived sanctions of US and its stooges .US cant influence India foriegn policy.China is more powerful than India and can compete US.But US has advantage ,they are democracy.But when India comes ,it is not good for US because India also democracy.

Growing also means confronting the obstacles on the path. Whether USA likes it or not it cannot negate chinese influence in particular areas because of Chinese strength, same thing applies if India grows strong.
 
US will never help in exponential growth of India because if India-China relationship even show a tiny growth then US situation in Asia is completely FUBAR

Dude!!

India do not need any help from west or China, India needs to concentrate on its own potential and grow. West, Japan and China invest or go for JV's because strategically they will gain from it.
 
Are you so delusional to believe that a foreign country can dictate the flow of another country's military expansion.Japanese government is allowing military presence of US because they are well defended from China without having to spend a mammoth sum for defence expenditure.Abe is playing all cards in the deck and it is not far away that Japan will be completely military independent.

It is not that easy man.Even recent diplomatic problems between US and Japan about location of US base cause the resigning of Japan PM.So you can understand US influence over Japan
 
Are you so delusional to believe that a foreign country can dictate the flow of another country's military expansion.Japanese government is allowing military presence of US because they are well defended from China without having to spend a mammoth sum for defence expenditure.Abe is playing all cards in the deck and it is not far away that Japan will be completely military independent.

LOL; what makes you think that I'm delusional, your choice of words is simply absurd.
I've walked Planet Earth for many Summers and have seen this whole thing grow and play out. Japan will gow more militarily independent because the US also approves of it; and with good reasons for that too.
But do not understimate US leverage in Japan in military matters, its not for the reasons that you assume.
 
Yasukuni Shrine靖国神社and I see 到着殿behind Abe and Japan and China the same each other to you outsiders no surprise.
 
US will never help in exponential growth of India because if India-China relationship even show a tiny growth then US situation in Asia is completely FUBAR

Who want US help?US is here not to help India.Their eyes in Indian market.Indian politicians,and officials already know that.Presently we maintain relationship with US only for our strategic gains in Afghanistan.
You can understand why US cant sell a single reactor to India.Nuclear deal is only a show.Both US and India knows US games not going to work here.We maintain relationship with all countries including China and US.We only considered our long term national interest.that all.
We cant trust a foreign country completely even Russia.Our geopolitics policy only considered our interest.And we dont seek and will not seek other countries extra privileges for our advancement.
India's all achievements is our own hard work.
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japan is going to realize soon that all india can offer is lip service......the hard way
 
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