What's new

India Ready For Pakistan Talks, U.N. Alarmed By Kashmir Violence

Talks in the current scenario are redundant. Only post a conflict can talks be of value as the past has shown.



Musharraf, you mean the 'master mind behind Kargil? Him and peace don't belong in the same sentence.

Sure, go ahead and conduct a vote, it'd be meanigless anyway. There are steps than need to be followed according to UN.

You are free to talk about whatever you with to. It'd be as meaningless as the whining you have done thus far.



That'll work well for us. We are not the ones whining to the world that Pak doesn't talk to us, its the other way around.

And yet Murderous Modi does know the meaning of peace :hang2:

Musharaf did start Kargil, but he learned from it and in the 2000s offered a peaceful solution. Indians, in their ever widening bloodlust just wanted more of the same. Just look at recent news.

Who said UN?
We were talking about having talks about Azad Kashmir and IOK, c'mon, put your tiny brain into overdrive and try to keep up with the conversation.

It's interesting that you are having a menstrual fit over "talking" when the whole thread was created around that concept.
It's like going to a grocery store and getting mad that they sell food.
Internet Hindu logic.... :fie:
 
.
Modi is trying hard
To unite Pakistanies,
Giving a shutup call to baneya lovers in Pak
Trying to invoke our sleeping desire to fight for our Kashmiri brothers and sisters
Showing true color of hindutava to the world.

He is a blessing in disguise for us. He only knows the language of war and destruction.

Things are going towards a full fledged war, This is what we are reading in our holy scripts. "When you see fire in AsSham (Syria-Iraq) and Yamen, Two armies will rise and fight. One under Mehdi R.A and one in Hind"

Time is near....
 
.
And yet Murderous Modi does know the meaning of peace :hang2:

Musharaf did start Kargil, but he learned from it and in the 2000s offered a peaceful solution. Indians, in their ever widening bloodlust just wanted more of the same. Just look at recent news.

Who said UN?
We were talking about having talks about Azad Kashmir and IOK, c'mon, put your tiny brain into overdrive and try to keep up with the conversation.

It's interesting that you are having a menstrual fit over "talking" when the whole thread was created around that concept.
It's like going to a grocery store and getting mad that they sell food.
Internet Hindu logic.... :fie:

It would have been foolish of India to ever trust likes of Musharaf post his retarded misadventure in Kargil. Moreoever, considering his end, there was no gurantee he could even deliver on what he promised.

Your opinion on Modi is meaningless to this discussion, what you consider him to be woefully unimportant. He is the head of government, thus, if you wish to deal with India, you deal with him.

I hardly need attestation from you on the size of my brain if yours can't even comprehend that any such vote you propose is of no value. If your government wishes to watse time and resource, do go ahead.

Talking with Pak is a waste of time, whatever fit that seems to you is of no consequence to me.

Get over childish taunts of Hindu logic or gutter language of that sort. I have been brought up better than to bring your religion into this, apparently you haven't enjoyed the same good fortune. I can only pity such people.
 
.
It would have been foolish of India to ever trust likes of Musharaf post his retarded misadventure in Kargil. Moreoever, considering his end, there was no gurantee he could even deliver on what he promised.

Your opinion on Modi is meaningless to this discussion, what you consider him to be woefully unimportant. He is the head of government, thus, if you wish to deal with India, you deal with him.

I hardly need attestation from you on the size of my brain if yours can't even comprehend that any such vote you propose is of no value. If your government wishes to watse time and resource, do go ahead.

Talking with Pak is a waste of time, whatever fit that seems to you is of no consequence to me.

Get over childish taunts of Hindu logic or gutter language of that sort. I have been brought up better than to bring your religion into this, apparently you haven't enjoyed the same good fortune. I can only pity such people.

It seams like everything is meaningless to you. Did you just learn that word today? You are using it a lot, like an excited kid with a new toy.

Okay, so everything is meaningless, nothing is true, then why are you here? Why do you keep replying? do you just want to practice your English? There are better sites to do that.
 
.
It seams like everything is meaningless to you. Did you just learn that word today? You are using it a lot, like an excited kid with a new toy.

Okay, so everything is meaningless, nothing is true, then why are you here? Why do you keep replying? do you just want to practice your English? There are better sites to do that.

Almost everything related to Pak is meaningless as far as I am concerned, there's hardly much contention to that particular notion.

I feel neither the need, nor any desire to apprise you of my reason to post on this site.

If you wish to continue this discussion, kindly state how a vote conducted by Pak in P0K would be of any value when it does not adhere to the steps outlined in the UN resolution. I presume you are converstant with it along with the susequent developments.

What steps need to be taken regarding the demographics before such a vote? Who would conduct this vote? Pak? The UN? Some third party? What would be the purpose of such a vote? Who would recognize it? What value would it hold in any future talks?

I hope you can move on from childish attemps at insults and try to answer these questions.
 
.
The olive branch comes after 40 days of violent protests in Indian-ruled Kashmir.

SRINAGAR/NEW DELHI, Aug 17 (Reuters) - India is ready to send its top diplomat to Pakistan for talks focused on fighting cross-border terrorism, sources at India’s foreign ministry said on Wednesday, after a spike in tension in the disputed northernmost region of Kashmir.

Indian Foreign Secretary Subrahmanyam Jaishankar was willing to attend talks on the invitation of his Pakistani counterpart, the sources said, stressing that cross-border terrorism was central to the situation in Jammu and Kashmir state.

The olive branch comes after 40 days of violent protests in Indian-ruled Kashmir that were sparked by the killing by security forces of a field commander of Pakistan-based Islamic militant group Hizbul Mujahideen who enjoyed wide support.

At least 64 people have died and thousands been injured in clashes with security forces that have been denounced by Pakistan, which also claims the right to rule Jammu & Kashmir in a territorial dispute that dates back to partition in 1947.

The Indian sources, who declined to be identified, made it clear, however, that India “rejects in their entirety the self-serving allegations regarding the situation in J&K, which is an integral part of India.”

Jammu and Kashmir (J&K) is the name of India’s only Muslim-majority state that includes the disputed Kashmir region.

No comment was immediately available from Pakistan’s foreign ministry.

A top U.N. human rights official expressed “deep regret” at the failure of both the Indian and Pakistani authorities to grant access to the separate parts of Kashmir that each run to investigate allegations of serious human rights violations.

U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Zeid Ra’ad Al Hussein said in a statement issued in Geneva it was unfortunate that sincere attempts by the United Nations to independently assess the facts in relation to reports of human rights violations had failed.

“Without access, we can only fear the worst,” said Zeid.

DEADLY AMBUSH

The nuclear-armed neighbors, which have fought three wars since independence in 1947, both claim Kashmir in full but rule it in part.

In the latest violence on Wednesday, militants killed three members of the Indian security forces when they ambushed an army convoy and then fired on a police jeep that came to the scene.

In a worrying escalation the previous day, Indian security forces fired live rounds at a crowd of stone-throwing protesters in Kashmir’s Baramulla district, killing five and wounding 10.

Earlier, police and troops trying to control crowds had resorted to the use of shotguns, whose pellets are meant to incapacitate but not kill.

But residents of Kashmir say the shotguns have inflicted severe injuries and even blinded hundreds of people including bystanders.

Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi ratcheted up tensions in his annual Independence Day speech on Monday, accusing Pakistan of glorifying terrorism.

In a tit-for-tat escalation in the war of words between the nuclear-armed neighbors, Modi said he had received messages of support from leaders in restive regions of Pakistan, in particular the troubled southwestern province of Baluchistan.

India accuses Muslim Pakistan of supporting Kashmiri fighters while Pakistan accuses India of meddling in Pakistani trouble spots, in particular of helping separatists fighting the Pakistani state in resource-rich Baluchistan.

Both sides deny the accusations.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...-kashmir-protests_us_57b45ce2e4b0edfa80da56fb
Yups.. in his dreams...
 
.
Almost everything related to Pak is meaningless as far as I am concerned, there's hardly much contention to that particular notion.

I feel neither the need, nor any desire to apprise you of my reason to post on this site.

If you wish to continue this discussion, kindly state how a vote conducted by Pak in P0K would be of any value when it does not adhere to the steps outlined in the UN resolution. I presume you are converstant with it along with the susequent developments.

What steps need to be taken regarding the demographics before such a vote? Who would conduct this vote? Pak? The UN? Some third party? What would be the purpose of such a vote? Who would recognize it? What value would it hold in any future talks?

I hope you can move on from childish attemps at insults and try to answer these questions.

And yet here you are, obsessively trolling a Pakistani forum. People who think something is "meaningless" don't spend all their times fanatically posting on their forums.

Forget the past.
Pakistan offered a peaceful solution but your people's blood lust was not satisfied.

And since you are really insisting on a vote, that's easy. Both India and Pakistan agree to the terms beforehand that are fair to both countries and just have a vote. Let democracy win over state oppression and cutting off internet and what not.
 
.
And yet here you are, obsessively trolling a Pakistani forum. People who think something is "meaningless" don't spend all their times fanatically posting on their forums.

Forget the past.
Pakistan offered a peaceful solution but your people's blood lust was not satisfied.

And since you are really insisting on a vote, that's easy. Both India and Pakistan agree to the terms beforehand that are fair to both countries and just have a vote. Let democracy win over state oppression and cutting off internet and what not.

Again, your opnioin on me or what I am doing here is woefully insignificant.

Past is not forgotten easily, not without making sure crimes are paid for or future capability to cause mischief neutralized.

Pak is not a nation that we can trust to uphold any agreements when it does not even uphold the Simla agreement. So it would be foolish of India to enter into more such agreements when history teachs the opposite.

Read why Pak does not uphold Simla and you'll understand why UN is critical to any resolution of J&K with Pak.
 
.
Again, your opnioin on me or what I am doing here is woefully insignificant.

Past is not forgotten easily, not without making sure crimes are paid for or future capability to cause mischief neutralized.

Pak is not a nation that we can trust to uphold any agreements when it does not even uphold the Simla agreement. So it would be foolish of India to enter into more such agreements when history teachs the opposite.

Read why Pak does not uphold Simla and you'll understand why UN is critical to any resolution of J&K with Pak.
This is rich, an Indian is talking about paying for past crimes. You people better hope everyone forgets the past, otherwise your great great great grandchildren will be paying for India's past crimes. And I am not even talking about crimes against Pakistan, but crimes against it's own people.

Also, I am done here. You keep saying everything is meaningless and nothing matters, but then keep on posting.
It's like talking to an emo 13 year old.
 
.
Whats the official name of Pakistan printed on the Passport? Islamic Republic of Pakistan, right? So Muslim Pakistan is apt.
Islamic Republic of Pakistan does not equate to as Muslim Pakistan. Jeez:disagree:
Do you know what does the white portion in our flag represent?
 
.
This is rich, an Indian is talking about paying for past crimes. You people better hope everyone forgets the past, otherwise your great great great grandchildren will be paying for India's past crimes. And I am not even talking about crimes against Pakistan, but crimes against it's own people.

Also, I am done here. You keep saying everything is meaningless and nothing matters, but then keep on posting.
It's like talking to an emo 13 year old.

Yawn, empty threats from a random stratnger on the net. Ooh I am shaking.

As expected, you have little knowledge of what you are talking about. Bye, do read up and come back later.

As for democracy, first let people of GB vote, then talk about referendums.
 
.
India should be shown a middle finger on this one. Get out of Kashmir first before talks can be held should be our demand. In the meanwhile Pakistan should extend all types of diplomatic support to our Kashmiri brothers.
 
.
Yawn, empty threats from a random stratnger on the net. Ooh I am shaking.

As expected, you have little knowledge of what you are talking about. Bye, do read up and come back later.

As for democracy, first let people of GB vote, then talk about referendums.

Threats? What threats?
I am now convinced that you are just here to practice your English since you can't seem to read or understand what is being written.

I think a more appropriate place for you is http://www.esl.com/

Best of luck in learning this great language :cheers:
 
.
Threats? What threats?
I am now convinced that you are just here to practice your English since you can't seem to read or understand what is being written.

I think a more appropriate place for you is http://www.esl.com/

Best of luck in learning this great language :cheers:

That's okay, I have been convinced since your third post that you have little clue what you are talking about, even if your sincere about peace. You need to read up. Go read Simla agreement, why Pak does not uphold it and maye you can figure out for yourself how silly your suggestion was.
 
.
Again, that's fine with us. India in satisfied with the status quo; thus, no talks or talks that go nowhere are a perfectly acceptable scenario for us.

With Baloch and P0K angle being brought in by the government, no talks suit us even more. For Pak's mischeif in the vallley, we have plenty to respond back on in Pak's troubled areas.

Talks with any non-military Pak government are meaningless anyway, this current government in particular.

India is most certainly not satisfied with the status quo, because your map still claims all of Kashmir and you banned Al Jazeera for a bit just because they displayed the correct map.

As for responding to Pakistan's mischief in Kashmir, you haven't done anything. There is little to no proof India is helping militants in Pakistan, and it's highly unlikely as most of them also hate India.
 
.

Latest posts

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom