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NEW DELHI: The NDA government is now once again re-examining the two other “foundational agreements” being pushed by the US for over 15 years now, after inking the bilateral military logistics pact in 2016, in a sharp departure from the previous UPA regime that had virtually rejected them.

India and the US will hold fresh discussions on the two pacts — Communications Compatibility and Security Arrangement (COMCASA) and the Basic Exchange and Cooperation Agreement for Geo-Spatial Cooperation (BECA) — at a meeting here on Thursday and Friday.


“The defence ministry (MoD) is seriously re-examining COMCASA and BECA, and will do a cost-benefit analysis to fully understand the technical implications involved. The US says inking the pacts will allow India more access to cutting-edge military technologies and platforms with encrypted and secure communications like armed drones,” said a source.

India has for long been interested in acquiring armed unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) like MQ-9 Reaper or Predator-B drones, which fly like fighter jets to fire missiles on enemy targets and then return to their bases to re-arm for next mission, from the US.

But the two countries so far have held formal discussions only on the possible sale of 22 unarmed Sea Guardians + , which are high-altitude, long-endurance drones capable of flying non-stop for over 27 hours for intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance missions, at an estimated cost of $2 billion.

“The US recently announced its new policy on export of armed/unarmed drones to friendly countries, with end-use monitoring and additional security conditions. If India at all decides to acquire such expensive drones, then they obviously would be the armed ones rather than ones used just for reconnaissance,” said the source.


The US contends COMCASA is a “technology enabler” to help transfer high-tech avionics, encrypted communication and electronic systems to India as well as ensure secrecy of its C4ISR (command, control, communications, computers, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance) systems from leaking to other countries like Russia.


But India has so far been hesitant to ink the pact despite having bought military hardware and software worth $15 billion from the US since 2007. Instead of encrypted and secure radio, data, navigation, guidance and communication systems protected by COMCASA, India has used commercially available kits to equip its US-origin C-130J Super Hercules, C-17 Globemaster-III and P-8I Poseidon aircraft despite some reduction in their operational capabilities.

There are widespread fears that the use of American C4ISR systems could compromise India’s tactical operational security, enabling the US to keep track of Indian warships and aircraft. “The MoD will study the COMCASA being offered in detail. Much like the Logistics Exchange Memorandum of Agreement (LEMOA) inked in 2016, India would like a less-restrictive COMCASA that addresses all its concerns,” said another source.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...ns-like-armed-drones/articleshow/64006089.cms
 
American technology comes with strings attached. You sign set of papers on dotted lines - no changes. Period.

Take it or leave it basis.
Love me or leave me basis.
Use me or lose me basis.

Modi sashtang pranam karega.

Anyone wanna bet?
 
We will sign such agreement with Russia too, its in discussion and both sides has agreed to some extent.
 
India should take it with ‘Arms wide open’
 
Its not like COMCASA/BECA but we're discussing defence pact with Russia. And Russia confirmed it during DefExpo


India has had defence pact with Russia for many many decades now. Its way different than LSA/CISMOA/BECA.

zameen aasman ka fark hai
 
What does that mean? If you could translate it into english please.


This is Hindu way of falling at one's feet for blessing or forgiveness or receiving a command

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India should take it with ‘Arms wide open’

The way things are moving India is spreading the legs.
 
Its not like COMCASA/BECA but we're discussing defence pact with Russia. And Russia confirmed it during DefExpo

COMCASA is quite intrusive. The pacts we've signed with the Russians and French are not intrusive. We don't want American citizens in our bases, but COMCASA forces that for some specific functions. It's primarily meant to protect their communication technologies.

It won't apply if we used our own comm systems. But drones require American communication systems since ours are still in development. And modifying foreign drones with Indian comm systems will be too expensive and pointless.

So we may have to swallow the bitter pill.
 
COMCASA is quite intrusive. The pacts we've signed with the Russians and French are not intrusive. We don't want American citizens in our bases, but COMCASA forces that for some specific functions. It's primarily meant to protect their communication technologies.

It won't apply if we used our own comm systems. But drones require American communication systems since ours are still in development. And modifying foreign drones with Indian comm systems will be too expensive and pointless.

So we may have to swallow the bitter pill.

Or not buy useless drones. Wait until Rustom comes onboard. What is the hurry?
 
We will sign such agreement with Russia too, its in discussion and both sides has agreed to some extent.

No, according to the above article, since 2007 India has purchased $15 billion worth of defence equipment from the US... instead of Russia.

That hurts India's friend Russia which is suffering from Western sanctions.
 
No, according to the above article, since 2007 India has purchased $15 billion worth of defence equipment from the US... instead of Russia.

That hurts India's friend Russia which is suffering from Western sanctions.

Russia has been hurt and has decided that it would no longer sell equipment to India and it is planning to sell them to Pakistan instead.
 

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