India may get US, French cos as partners for building nuclear submarines

[[Bregs]]

There is strong US/west lobby working against Russian interests in Indian defense ministry and its after effects are showing

 

[#hydra#]

We already have prototype of Akula. And more coming from Russia. We should go for US and France offer if offered.

And u want Russians to withdraw their co-operation with India, these frenchies & uncle Sam won't give any top end strategic valued items to us.they will drag us to negotiation table for years to no reason, the rafi saga is mere an example.

 

[Ind4Ever]

And u want Russians to withdraw their co-operation with India, these frenchies & uncle Sam won't give any top end strategic valued items to us.they will drag us to negotiation table for years to no reason, the rafi saga is mere an example.

Am not saying to avoid Russians. We anyway already tangled with Indigenously developed SSBN and future SSN. But if this news is true we should go for it at all cost. And end our technology differences with west in submarine building. See Chinese submarine technologies are two steps behind the Russians. What Russians parting with India are technically more or less equal to that of Chinese alleged Russian technologies. So with Western European or American stealth and sensors will give us more advantage than ever. That's whatbw need. Our focus is on China nothing else. Hope Russians will understand

I would rather not see India getting too close to US, they will........ USE....... ABUSE then EXCUSE u.

Why you should even care. You do the same ? Let's get whatever we can. Let's use then in what ever way we want until they are ready to agree to help. We can't give away any opertunity to get western technology. Russians had no problem with us china corporation till date in FDI and aerospace industry and why Russia can't do the same with India?

 

[PARIKRAMA]

Am not saying to avoid Russians. We anyway already tangled with Indigenously developed SSBN and future SSN. But if this news is true we should go for it at all cost. And end our technology differences with west in submarine building. See Chinese submarine technologies are two steps behind the Russians. What Russians parting with India are technically more or less equal to that of Chinese alleged Russian technologies. So with Western European or American stealth and sensors will give us more advantage than ever. That's whatbw need. Our focus is on China nothing else. Hope Russians will understand

Bro only one thing-
Do you think we can practically have SSn project with Russia and another one with USA parallely running?

 

[Ind4Ever]

Bro only one thing-
Do you think we can practically have SSn project with Russia and another one with USA parallely running?

Why not. If we get that rare opportunity then we should grab it. Russian involvement Inn Arihant will be never ending excersise. Our Indigenously planned SSN will resembles closely to Arihant and Akula combined or fully redesigned with Russian help.

On other hand if we get an offer for parallel SSN program. Like say Engine will be of Indian origin (Indo Russian? Or Indian?) and the rest would be armed with Western technology we should go for it.

Why we won't take this offer? We already have done the same with SSK German France Russians.

 

[SR-91]

Why you should even care. You do the same ? Let's get whatever we can. Let's use then in what ever way we want until they are ready to agree to help. We can't give away any opertunity to get western technology. Russians had no problem with us china corporation till date in FDI and aerospace industry and why Russia can't do the same with India?

You always wanna be careful in who u get in bed with.

 

[PARIKRAMA]

Prasun K sengupta views on this matter
Vikram Guha said...
PrasunDa,
Not sure if our Bandalbaaz friends are having a field day, but this report sounds good.
India may purchase nuclear subs from USA & France
India may get US, French cos as partners for building nuclear submarines - The Economic Times
Would appreciate if you can shed some light.


To VIKRAM GUHA: LoLz! That was a good find! Probably such bandalbaazes weren't present present at DEFEXPO 2012 when the Barracuda SSN was showcased. Reality is that the IN has zeroed in on the Scorpene's SSN version & the all-electric propulsion system (that does away with reduction gearboxes) to be driven by the PWR will come from GE-Alsthom, a US-French JV company. That's what it's all about. NO US-based submarine manufacturer has either been approached by India nor has any such OEM approached India.

Credit To Mr Vikram Guha who had asked this question in PSK's blog

@SR-91 This could be an awesome news as we already are making scorpenes in mazgaon Docks. So a follow on order of 6 can be given and there itself we can get the SSNs. Thus we dont waste the time as well as investment made in MDL fr scorpenes.Perhaps 2 from From france can come in also off the shelf..

@MilSpec @Capt.Popeye @Water Car Engineer @kurup @Abingdonboy @Ind4Ever
You folks had heard anything about scorpenes SSN version

@Penguin Any idea or details on Scorpene SSN and the red bold part tech. How will it compare to other SSNs if you any data..

 

[SR-91]

Prasun K sengupta views on this matter
Vikram Guha said...
PrasunDa,
Not sure if our Bandalbaaz friends are having a field day, but this report sounds good.
India may purchase nuclear subs from USA & France
India may get US, French cos as partners for building nuclear submarines - The Economic Times
Would appreciate if you can shed some light.


To VIKRAM GUHA: LoLz! That was a good find! Probably such bandalbaazes weren't present present at DEFEXPO 2012 when the Barracuda SSN was showcased. Reality is that the IN has zeroed in on the Scorpene's SSN version & the all-electric propulsion system (that does away with reduction gearboxes) to be driven by the PWR will come from GE-Alsthom, a US-French JV company. That's what it's all about. NO US-based submarine manufacturer has either been approached by India nor has any such OEM approached India.

Credit To Mr Vikram Guha who had asked this question in PSK's blog

@SR-91 This could be an awesome news as we already are making scorpenes in mazgaon Docks. So a follow on order of 6 can be given and there itself we can get the SSNs. Thus we dont waste the time as well as investment made in MDL fr scorpenes.Perhaps 2 from From france can come in also off the shelf..

@MilSpec @Capt.Popeye @Water Car Engineer @kurup @Abingdonboy @Ind4Ever
You folks had heard anything about scorpenes SSN version

@Penguin Any idea or details on Scorpene SSN and the red bold part tech. How will it compare to other SSNs if you any data..

Great news
It would make total sense, if true, with fast depleting underwater force, India needs Subs. That said, IMHO, this is a follow on order with DCNS, separate from Project 75I.
If India chooses to exercise addition 6 option, India will get deeper TOT apart from bigger boats.