India may be working on a third stealth fighter project

[Omega007]

3rd programm ? I have heard about fgfa, which one is 2nd one LCA ?

Nope.The 2nd is AMCA.Preliminary design has already been started from the previous year.

 

[F-16_Falcon]

My sincere advise to Bharat first complete Teja and Arjun do not waste people's hard earned money.

 

[Mrityunjay Rai]

My sincere advise to Bharat first complete Teja and Arjun do not waste people's hard earned money.

we will not take advice.... Now what?

 

[Shabz Nist]

Forget R&D.....do we have the funds for this?

 

[indushek]

Yes, you do have funding for this. Just starve off couple millions more Indians and you got the money.

Thanks for your concern buddy.

 

[Feluda]

Even i heard the same news like this "Besides the common heavier platform, Russia has also agreed to jointly develop a lighter fifth generation fighter tailored to meet specific requirements of the Indian Air Force (IAF)".

But the thing is,the programme depends upon engine.right now russia has 5th generation engine development active programme.
also if u deploy one engine thrust would be around 18-20 t nd if DOUBLE engine then it would be 12-15 t.

We must go for 117(PAK-FA engine) or new one developed "Type-30" engine.

 

[Kompromat]

As usual i can see Indian folks burning inside out , & Mr Pandora -- read my post again-- Kevari is being tested for ages ---AESA is still a concept -- and yes most of your tech is based on borrowed technology not on home grown R&D.

And i will maintain the myth of 3 fifth generation projects is just a loud fart !

 

[GORKHALI]

As usual i can see Indian folks burning inside out , & Mr Pandora -- read my post again-- Kevari is being tested for ages ---AESA is still a concept -- and yes most of your tech is based on borrowed technology not on home grown R&D.

And i will maintain the myth of 3 fifth generation projects is just a loud fart !

See that's what am talking ,i shown some of the best source from boeing to aviation week to Mr Researcher .Fine now here's another killer link about AESA radars indirectly linked to AMCA and LCA MK2
http://publications.drdo.gov.in/ojs/index.php/dsj/article/download/338/199
Btw Drdo AEW&C is also an Aesa Radar ..
Mr Researcher half knowledge is a dangerous thing

 

[Hafizzz]

We know the Ministry of Defense has already pledged to co-develop the FGFA variant of the Russian Sukhoi PAK-FA stealth fighter, and it's Defense Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) is already working on designing the twin-engined advanced medium combat aircraft (AMCA). That means the Indian Air Force has both heavy and medium stealth fighter projects -- similar, perhaps, in concept to the high-F-22/medium-F-35 split by the US Air Force.

Now the Indian aerospace and defence press reports Indian Air Marshall PV Naik is in talks with Russia about a lightweight stealth fighter.

It's not clear if Naik is simply discussing a stealth fighter lighter than FGFA; if so, it is perhaps an invitation for Russia to join India's ongoing AMCA project.

If Naik is really discussing a light stealth fighter with the Russians, then it could mean India is considering a stealthy replacement for the long-awaited Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA). That would give India an all-stealth fleet divided into light, medium and heavy categories.

The concept of a light stealth fighter is a tough engineering challenge. To achieve radar stealth, all fuel and munitions must be carried internally. That's possible to do in a 60,000lb-class fighter, such as the Lockheed Martin F-22, or even a 40,000lb-class fighter, such as the F-35. But it's an even bigger challenge for a manned, 20,000lb-class fighter.

http://www.aviongoo.com/display_blog.php?id=5344

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3rd stealth fighter ??? What ever happened to 1st and 2nd stealth fighter ? As far as I know, India don't even have any stealth fighter and all of a sudden you guys are talking about 3rd stealth. You might as well say India is working on her 10000th stealth fighter !

 

[BRICS]

First let's see a squadron of LCA inducted & in active service, then talk about third stealth fighter!

 

[ptltejas]

Researcher huh,

Recent breakthrough in Kaveri engine
Kaveri engine passes series of tests on Russian aircraft
PTI | 11:05 PM,May 02,2011

New Delhi, May 2 (PTI) The indigenously-built Kaveri engine for military aircraft successfully passed a series of tests on a Russian Il-76 aircraft recently using it as Flight Test Bed (FTB) at a Russian facility."The recently conducted tests were a significant step towards operationalisation of Kaveri engine. A Russian Il-76 transporter was used as the FTB to conduct 11 successful trials totalling over 20 hours till April," Defence Research and Development Organisation spokesperson said here today.Elaborating on using Il-76 as FTB, he said, "Kaveri was replaced with one of the four engines of the Il-76. The tests were carried out up to 12 km maximum altitude and a maximum forward speed of 0.7 Mach and under different operating conditions." Developed by Bangalore-based Gas Turbine Research Establishment (GTRE) under DRDO, the engine recently passed ground tests before being transported to Gromov Flight Research Institute in Russia for simulated flights and FTB trials.So far, the country has spent over USD 455 million in last two decades to develop the engine which was first designed to fly the Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) Tejas. A major setback occurred when it could not generate desired thrust to make the aircraft airborne.
Kaveri engine passes series of tests on Russian aircraft, IBN Live News
Kaveri is going where you only dream for..


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The images above, seen here for the first time, are from official material on the Indian AESA radar project for the LCA Tejas, shared with LiveFist. Indian state-owned radar developer Electronics R&D Establishment (LRDE) is in the process of identifying a development partner (DP) for an indigenous AESA radar for future tranches of the Tejas and the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) and is likely to make a final decision shortly. The radar has begun development in the country. According to official updated material made available to LiveFist, the fully solid-state X-band radar is being developed with the following modes:

Air-to-Air: Multi-target detection and tracking / Multi target ACM (Air-to-Air combat mode) / High resolution raid assessment

Air-to-Ground: High Resolution mapping (SAR mode) / AGR – Air to Ground Ranging / RBM – Real Beam Mapping / DBS – Doppler Beam Sharpening / Ground Moving Target Indication (GMTI) / Ground Moving Target Tracking (GMTT) / Terrain Avoidance (TA)

Air-to-Sea: Sea search and multi target tracking / Range Signature (RS) / Inverse Synthetic Aperture Radar (ISAR)

As I've reported here before, the development partner that LRDE identifies will be responsible for "detailed design, development and realisation" of (a) antenna panel constisting of main antenna, guard antenna and sidelobe cancellation antenna, (b) transmit/receive modules/groups, (c) RF distribution network consisting of RF manifold/combiners, RF interface, (d) antenna/beam control chain consisting of T/R control and T/R group control, and (e) array calibration/BITE among other areas



F-16 Refueling Probe Developed | AVIATION WEEK

t's remarkable that the Lockheed Martin F-16, despite being exported worldwide for 35 years, can't be refueled except by the handful of air forces that fly boom-equipped tankers. Cobham's Sargent-Fletcher division demonstrated a modified 370 gal wing tank a few years ago that housed a retractable probe, apparently for Israel, but as far as is known it was not adopted.

Hose and drogue refueling is mandatory for India's Medium Multi-Role Combat Aircraft contest, however, so Lockheed Martin, Cobham and HAL have teamed up to develop the Conformal Air Refueling Tanker/System (CARTS), which adds a probe in the forward end of the right-hand overwing conformal tank.


Electronic warfare suite developed for MiG-27
India has successfully tested the electronic warfare (EW) suite for MiG-27 fighter aircraft, to thwart any kind of enemy threats, said a senior official of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) on Wednesday.

The sophisticated version of MiG-27 fighters will be operational by 2011.

Announcing the latest achievement in the country’s defence warfare capabilities, Dr Prahlada, chief controller, R&D (Ae&SI) of DRDO, speaking on the sidelines of the India National Electronic Warfare Workshop (EWWI-2010) in the city, said the technical know-how would bring India on par with the rest of the world.

“We have successfully integrated the present electronic warfare (EW) systems with MiG-27 fighters. It will be operational from 2011. Similarly, we’ll integrate EW systems with MiG-29 fighters and Tejas light combat aircraft (LCA) by 2011. They are likely to be operational by 2012,” said Prahlada.

Although all the three wings of the Indian armed forces have been using EW systems for long, upgradation of MiG fighters and Tejas is the first step forward in indigenous development by the DRDO.
The DRDO is also building two new test ranges in Chitradurga district in Karnataka and another in Tandur in Andhra Pradesh, which will be operational by 2012 and 2013, respectively. Both the aeronautical ranges will be used to test radar-based EW systems, unmanned aerial vehicles, air-to-ground weapons, huge parachutes, and Tejas LCAs and aerostats.

While the Chitradurga range would test ‘non-communication’ EW systems, the Tandur range will test ‘communication’ EW systems.

“We have already acquired the land in Chitradurga. Talks are on with the government to acquire land in Tandur. These are peaceful areas, far-off from populated city spaces and have no risk of any radiation leak,” said Prahlada.

Electronic warfare suite developed for MiG-27 - Bangalore - DNA

Mayavi 2 will be used and co developed by Israel for F35
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Here's the most hilarious part of your post lol
Straight from horse mouth that is Boeing
Bharat Electronics Limited (BEL) has delivered for the P-8I the Indian-designed Data Link II and Identification Friend or Foe Interrogator (IFFI), a battle management system that will enable P-8I aircraft to distinguish friendly aircraft and forces. Boeing will install the systems during P-8I final assembly at its facility in Renton, Washington. BEL is also our partner on the Analysis & Experimentation Centre in Bangalore, which provides world-class modeling and analysis capability in support of the Indian Armed Forces.

Boeing India Home: Boeing Defense, Space & Security in India

Now can any one in PDF including Mods would like to tell me what is researcher is all about here ???what is the basic criteria for it here coz quoted post by a researcher is even worse than a rookie ..

Mohmadd Ali Panch.

 

[Galaxy]

* My point was not if India can do it in a partnership or not but that India simply cant do it on its own !

There are Only 2 Countries who are capable of 5th Generation Air Craft. U.S. and Russia. India will be 3rd Country in the world which will have Fifth generation Air Craft that also 3.

Fifth generation jet fighter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


You can also do that. Invest 30-50 Billion $ and get it. Who is stopping you ??

or Wait for 10 years and Hope China will have 5th Generation and will give Soft Loan to you to get 10-20 5th Generation AirCraft (In Any case, India will have 10 times more @ that time )

 

[Galaxy]

First let's see a squadron of LCA inducted & in active service, then talk about third stealth fighter!

LCA is already in process of manufacturing. Every year 1-2 Squadron will be inducted in IAF. All process already done which took more than enough time. But It's better to be late than never. Isn't it ?

Now, We will have 2 Best of Top 10 Aircraft in IAF ( Sukoi 30 MKI with Enhanced features + Typhoon/ Rafale ( Soon). LCA is 3rd One (Always remember) -
Upgraded Dassault Mirage 2000 and MG - 21,29 are afterwards.

PAKFA / FGFA / AMCA - 5th Generation will make better than best.

 

[ptltejas]

As usual i can see Indian folks burning inside out , & Mr Pandora -- read my post again-- Kevari is being tested for ages ---AESA is still a concept -- and yes most of your tech is based on borrowed technology not on home grown R&D.

And i will maintain the myth of 3 fifth generation projects is just a loud fart !

We have nukes which fart shaken the world in 1999 and enemy step back from capturing aruna.

 

[Omega007]

From this thread anyone can see pakistanis are indeed afraid of india,that's why so much baseless posts(they never had any base).That means day by day we are improving beyond their reach.Good going DRDO.LOL.