India is getting ready to fight China and Pakistan simultaneously: Indian Army chief

[arya-hind]

Why would china and pakistan attack in the first place??

just try brother and one thing there will be no Pakistan

 

[Maddy2105]

COAS who keeps on giving Lunatic statements & his Generals like Lmaba who think they can reach Rawalpindi in 48 hours

& as for planning commission Chief it doesn't really matter, he can say what ever he wants but COAS of glorious IA ahem ahem

you keep repeating the Rawalpindi statement.

You seem to be so sure that india wont be able to reach Rawalpindi in 48 hours . can you explain me the exact reason..why not ?

or ...are you smarter than the General who has been in military service for 42 years. Most of the Pakistanis think they are.

 

[Kompromat]

Here goes another Joke..

India concerned about China's weapons supply to Pak: Krishna
3 hours ago.


Taking exception to China's involvement in several projects in Azad Kashmir (***), India on Sunday described it as "illegal" and said it has conveyed its concern over this as well as supply of Chinese weapons to Pakistan.


Despite differences on a host of issues with China, External Affairs Minister S M Krishna who is expected to visit Beijing in April this year, said the country did not see it in "antagonistic terms".



In a year-end review of the foreign policy and India's relations with its neigbours, the Minister said, "India lives in a difficult neighbourhood" and national security and terrorism originating from "across our borders" would remain a major challenge in 2010.


During an interview, he touched upon the troubled ties with Pakistan, relations with China and his optimism about "meaningful cooperation" from the US in regard to cases of two terror suspects David Headley and Tahawwur Rana, arrested there for plotting terror attacks in India. Asked about the "pinpricks" from China in the shape of border incursions, issuance of separate visas to Kashmiris, the Dalai Lama and status of Arunachal Pradesh, he replied,


"We are indeed concerned about some of these developments." He went on to emphasise that China's continued supply of weapons to Pakistan and activities of Chinese companies in *** were a matter of concern and India was talking about all these issues with China.



Explaining why India sees these activities in *** as "illegal', Krishna said Jammu and Kashmir is an integral part of the country and neither Pakistan nor China have a "locus standi" there

Still India did not see China in "antagonistic terms" as it believes that there is enough space for both to develop in a "mutually supportive manner while remaining sensitive to each other's concerns and aspirations", as befits good neighbours and strategic partners, Krishna said.


On the outlook for 2010, he said, "I am optimistic about the progress in our bilateral ties with China in the year ahead".



He also said "India and China are engaged in deepening their strategic and cooperative partnership on the one hand and narrowing divergences on the other."


Krishna emphasised that India was "committed to close and friendly relations with our neighbours" as it was convinced "that our destinies are interlinked". Referring to Pakistan, he noted that progress had been achieved in five years of composite dialogue but it was "eroded" by continued terrorism emanating from that country.

For better ties, he put the onus on Pakistan to act with "determination" against terrorism directed at India. "The manner in which it acts to fulfil its assurances in this regard will be a critical factor in achieving progress in our bilateral relations," he said, setting the bottom-line for resumption of the composite dialogue stalled after the Mumbai terror attacks.



"With Pakistan, the composite dialogue process since 2004 revealed the promise and potential that exists for both countries in a context when relations are improving. Realising that potential is the challenge but we can only do so by squarely addressing the issue of terrorism," Krishna said.


Observing that it was in India's interest to "engage and normalise our relations", Krishna said "at the same time we are very clear that any meaningful dialogue with Pakistan can only be based on fulfilment of its commitment, in letter and spirit, not to allow its territory to be used in any manner for terrorist activities

"We will have to make sure that as these issues are addressed, our interests continue to be protected. We will seek to strengthen even further our relations with major powers, while maintaining independence and delicate balance in our foreign policy," the Minister said.

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[arya-hind]

You will steal our water & we will just see it been stolen, WHY?

Forget about every Third person, Is there is war mongering by any high rank military official from Pakistan? No

hey hey angry women /girl

pls remove hate and anger from ur heart because anger will not help any one

just wake up early in the morning and go for morning walk and see beauty around you so that you can feel good

just ask from your self is this Pakistan you want where your country is going dont tell me just ask from ur heart

jai hind

 

[AliFarooq]

just try brother and one thing there will be no Pakistan

come back when you wake up

 

[Maddy2105]

50 page thread in 2 days ? this must be a record

 

[DaRk WaVe]

How do you know we are really stealing your water and is not a bid by Pakistan for Hate-India propaganda.

Ohh please water thieves you are constructing Dams stealing water from Pak, Nepal and Tipaimukh Dam & Fulertal Barrage stopping Bengali waters, You think this is all propaganda every neighbor of India has got 'water issue' with India, are they all MAD?

India has resumed construction of the Tipaimukh dam on the Barack River which ends a kilometer north of Jakiganj in Sylhet division in the north-east of Bangladesh. The river then divide into two – the Surma and Kushiara before entering Bangladesh.The dam construction work was stalled in March 2007 in the face of protests within and outside India. The Tipaimukh dam will be built 200 km from the Amolshid border, at Jakiganj, to construct a 162.5M water reservoir for hydro-power generation. The dam when completed in 2012 is supposed to provide 1500 megawatts (actually 400 MW) of power to the Indian state of Assam barrage is to be built 100 km from the Bangladesh border at Fulertal in India on same river for irrigation purposes.These two arrangements on the same Barrack River will bring a major disaster for Bangladesh, practically contributing to the drying up of 350 km long Surma and the 110 km long Kushiara Rivers which water most of the north-eastern regions of Bangladesh. As a result agriculture in large portions of Bangladesh will be affected, particularly in winter,n 1976 India put into operation the Farakka dam which more or less destroyed the Ganges-Brahmaputra basin, most of which lies in the deltaic plains of Bangladesh and in 1990 India also constructed a dam along the Teesta river thereby virtually making ineffective much of the Teesta dam project constructed down-stream in Bangladesh to support irrigation and agriculture in the north-west region of the country. India has evolved plans to divert waters, from the north of the country to its drought-prone southern and eastern states.Although the Indian and Bangladeshi governments have a water sharing agreement for the Ganges, there are none for the other 53 rivers that cross the border. With the Tipaimukh dam now underway, India seems to be going ahead with its mega-project of diverting river waters from its north to its south and east, thereby putting Bangladesh’s very survival at stake.

and for Nepal here is a link The Kosi river was once known as the sorrow of India's eastern state of Bihar - but it has now become Nepal's sorrow, This damwould flood forests and cultivated areas, and cause compulsory resettlement of people in Nepal

BBC NEWS | South Asia | India's river plans spark furore

Chenab inflow ebbs as India withdraws water from Tawi

Saturday, March 28, 2009
By Khalid Mustafa

ISLAMABAD: India has dealt another blow to the Punjab’s water interests by establishing the Tawi-Ravi irrigation system some four years back, with New Delhi withdrawing 857 cusecs of water on a daily basis from the river, which is a Chenab tributary.

A senior official at the Water and Power Ministry revealed to The News on Friday the withdrawal of water by India would damage the irrigation of crops in Sialkot, Narowal and Shakargarh. Water from Tawi river’s left bank at the Bahu Fort point in Jammu is lifted 31 meters by pumps.

Daily water sheets issued by Irsa also jolted authorities concerned as Chenab’s historic flows drastically reduced from 18,800 cusecs to over 10,000 cusecs these days. When contacted, Pakistan’s Indus Waters Commissioner Syed Jamaat Ali Shah said he was aware that India had built the irrigation system. Under the treaty, he explained, India could build such schemes to irrigate 1,300,000 acres of land with western rivers’ water.

“But under the Indus Waters Treaty, India is bound to inform Pakistan six months before initiating any water scheme or dam on Pakistan’s rivers,” he pointed out. But Irsa and the Punjab irrigation department are perturbed over the decline in Chenab River from historic average flows.

Asked about the source of this sensitive information, the official replied that Arshad H Abbasi, director of the planning commission in the recent past and currently working as research fellow with SDPI (Sustainable Development Policy Institute), had informed the environment and water and power ministries through a letter.

The Indus System of Rivers comprises three eastern rivers - Sutlej, Bias and Ravi - and as many western rivers - Indus, Jhelum and Chenab. Under the Indus Waters Treaty of 1960, waters of the eastern rivers stand allocated to India and western rivers to Pakistan.

However, India interlinked Tawi and Ravi rivers with the Ravi-Tawi Lift Irrigation Project, withdrawing up to 857 cusecs of water daily from Tawi. Under the Indus Waters Treaty, Chenab water was allocated to Pakistan and Tawi is a major left bank tributary of the river, which originates from the lapse of the Kali Kundi glacier and the adjoining area southwest of Bhadarwah in Doda district.

The official said Abbasi also asked the government to check the irrigation provision as given in Annexure ìCî of the Indus Waters Treaty. The Ranbir and Partap canal systems were constructed by India before the signing of the Indus Waters Treaty. The agriculture use of water permitted to India from western rivers is 912,477 acres and over and above 642,000 acres of land being irrigated from the western rivers on the effective date ñ April 1, 1960.

Abbasi’s letter, a copy of which has been made available to The News, says with permissible withdrawals from Ranbir and Partap canals, India is entitled to water additional irrigated cropped area (ICA) of 70,000 acres from Indus, 150,000 from Jhelum and only 50,000 from Chenab.

Thus only 270,000 acres could be irrigated from western rivers but India has developed three major canals after 1960 - the Kashmir canal system, the high canal system in Jammu and the Ravi-Tawi Link irrigation system.

New Delhi submitted the justification that since India has not built any conservation storage on western rivers; rather it wastes about 35 million acres feet of water every year. India can develop irrigation by withdrawals from western rivers.

Moreover, the Igo-phey canal has been commissioned for irrigation in Leh and Kurbathang canal in Kargil. Some more canals under construction in the Ladakh region would surrender India’s right to build dams on Indus.

As per the treaty, only 0.15 million acres feet of water can be used for generating hydroelectric power on Indus and 0.35 MAF for irrigation. With the completion of these canals, India cannot build any dam on Indus.

However, at the same time, India initiated major hydropower projects on western rivers, particularly on Chenab, Pakal Dul, Kiru and Kawar, Bursar, Karthoi, Rattle and Shamnot hydropower projects.

Three main projects — Baglihar, Dul Hasti and Salal — have already been completed. If the projects, which are in the pipeline, get completed, then it would inflict an irreparable loss on Pakistan’s agriculture.

The official, quoting the letter, said Abbasi stressed enhancing the capacity of Pakistan’s Indus Waters Commission and making it digitised so that it could be run on modern lines.“This will help detect any misadventure of India; satellite altimetry technology is widely used now to measure surface water quantity.” The letter also argued that International bodies such as the World Bank ought to help the Indus Waters Commission build trust and avert any serious conflict between the two countries.

Crisis deepens as India blocks Chenab flow




By Khaleeq Kiani

ISLAMABAD, Sept 14: India has closed Chenab water flow and as a result the shortage in Pakistan has become more severe.

Sources told Dawn on Sunday that the water blockade by India could adversely affect the Kharif crops, particularly cotton and sugarcane which were in maturity stage and required final watering, and the sowing of Rabi crops early next month.

They said that the Pakistan Indus Water Commission had taken up the matter with the federal government and convened a meeting on Tuesday to take stock of the situation and try to reach a diplomatic solution with New Delhi.

If the Chenab closure prolongs, the sowing of Rabi crops, particularly wheat, would be hit severely.

The government had to import more than two million tons of wheat this year despite a record production of more than 23 million tons.

The water shortage could force Pakistan to import more wheat next year, adding to the foreign exchange pressure and worsening its balance of payments crisis.

The authorities are already estimating more than 35 per cent shortage of irrigation water during the next Rabi season following a decline in the melting of snow in Northern Areas, higher withdrawals by provinces during Kharif and increased hydropower generation.

The sources said India’s unilateral decision to stop the Chenab flows had put additional pressure on the irrigation system of Pakistan, which used to receive more than 23,000 cusecs a day until last week, but it had now been brought down to almost zero.

Meanwhile, the Indus River System Authority (Irsa) has convened a meeting of its technical committee on Sept 20 to ascertain the overall water availability for the Rabi season, beginning on Oct 1.

Irsa’s advisory committee will meet on Sept 25 to finalise provincial shares for Kharif on the basis of estimates to be put forth by the technical committee, Irsa chairman Bashir Ahmed Dahar told Dawn.

Responding to a question, he said Irsa had powers and capacity to resolve the issues of water sharing and discharges in consultation with the provincial governments and it had never sought federal government’s intervention to prevail upon one province or the other to accept its decisions.

Exercising these powers, Irsa has increased releases from the Mangla reservoir for Punjab’s final watering by 10,000 cusecs to about 39,000 cusecs. On the other hand, Punjab continued to draw about 49,000 cusecs from Tarbela against its share of about 40,000 cusecs.

Once higher releases from Mangla reached the system, Punjab’s share from Tarbela would be reduced to 40,000 cusecs, the sources said. Irsa had asked Punjab last week to reduce withdrawal by 8,000 cusecs from Chashma-Jhelum canal, but it continued to draw about 18,000 cusecs till Sunday.

The sources said releases in CJ-Link would be reduced to 10,000 cusecs on Monday or Tuesday to preserve reasonable resources in the Indus System for Rabi crops.

Crisis deepens as India blocks Chenab flow -DAWN - Top Stories; September 15, 2008

hey hey angry women /girl

pls remove hate and anger from ur heart because anger will not help any one

just wake up early in the morning and go for morning walk and see beauty around you so that you can feel good

You mean your COAS can say what ever comes in his mouth & we cannot even express our concern
anger & hate, Well have you people given these suggestions to your beloved COAS

 

[Kompromat]

Fully alive to threats!

THE blustering Indian army chief needed to be reminded that the talk of war between nuclear-armed countries amounted to not only causing but also courting serious trouble. General Deepak Kapoor's fiery rhetoric about his strategy of massively overusing 'superior' conventional weaponry, if given practical shape, would be a recipe for widespread destruction in the entire subcontinent and, indeed, India's own suicide. His boast the other day that New Delhi was readying itself to wage a successful two-front war, with China on the one hand and Pakistan on the other, was sanely and adequately answered by General Ashfaq Kayani while he was addressing senior officials at the GHQ on Friday. Although he did not specifically refer to the threatening vision of General Kapoor, the Pakistani COAS, as his remarks quite clearly indicate, was responding to him. He underscored what, one expects, the Indian General should have known before he flaunted his country's destructive military capability and evil designs, "Proponents of conventional application of military forces, in a nuclear overhang, are chartering an adventurous and dangerous path, the consequences of which could be both unintended and uncontrollable." One hopes the warning now sinks in and General Kapoor cools down to see the truth and wisdom of his counterpart's counsel that peace and stability in South Asia and beyond should be the logical golden rule governing relations between countries possessing nuclear weapons.

As for Pakistan, General Kayani made his preference for peace and stability known. That was the principle underlying the country's security paradigm and was designed to be secured through a policy of "strategic restraint". Yet, if attacked, he was emphatic that the army was "fully alert and alive" to the entire spectrum of threat that continued to exist in conventional and non-conventional domains. Conscious of New Delhi's mad quest for the acquisition of sophisticated military hardware, he assured the nation that his forces were able to deter and defeat the enemy's dangerous designs.
With growing economic strength and the added nuclear muscle that the US has willingly provided it, in violation of international law (NPT), whose strict adherence it demands of every other state, India has come out in its true colours. Pakistan's current predicament on the one hand and the task of containing China's expanding influence assigned to it by nuclear benefactor US must have prompted General Kapoor to indulge in self-destructive day-dreaming. In 96 hours during which he thinks he can capture the enemy territory, Pakistan's as well as Chinese, a lot more could happen. He could have unwittingly started off a Third World War, with the subcontinent forming the main theater.

Fully alive to threats! | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online

 

[Kompromat]

just try brother and one thing there will be no Pakistan

you dont want us to try, that would be Idiotic , because once we "Tried" there would be no going back!!



Tell me if you change your mind.

 

[Kompromat]

hey hey angry women /girl

pls remove hate and anger from ur heart because anger will not help any one

just wake up early in the morning and go for morning walk and see beauty around you so that you can feel good

just ask from your self is this Pakistan you want where your country is going dont tell me just ask from ur heart

jai hind

Give the same message to your General Kapoor

 

[Kompromat]

50 page thread in 2 days ? this must be a record

Thanks to General Kapoor

 

[Kompromat]

This is how you guys think ......wake up kidoss!!!

 

[Kompromat]

come back when you wake up

Show him this one bro !



i DONT KNOW WHY THEY DRINK SO MUCH & then come on MEDIA!!

 

[Kompromat]

Here comes the Dragons

Except Pirthavi 1 none of the other Indian missiles are operational , its just a show off again by an Indian misery man!

 

[BlackSonic]

I suggest u close this thread. The very same thing is being debated again and again since page 1


even the ak47 rifles is in service since 1949...Whats your point ?

No I think this topic should be open....we can close all other topics in India defence forum.....

We can discuss everything here in this topic.