India-Iran-Afghanistan Axis Against Pakistan?

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Indian presence in Afghanistan is unknown to me, as it is minor only at the level of some investements. If their media tries to portray Afghanistan an Indian stooge, then Paks must revise their thoughts. India has no ideological base in Afghanistan.

Indian presence and terrorism apparatus in Afghanistan is well established and known by us. We also know to what extent Iran and US helped establish India in Afghanistan.

Iranian hand in terrorism in Pakistan is known to us.

For example, we know Kulbushan Yadav, Uzaır Baloch, and this guy.

 

[Muhammed45]

Indian presence and terrorism apparatus in Afghanistan is well established and known by us. We also know to what extent Iran and US helped establish India in Afghanistan.

Iranian hand in terrorism in Pakistan is known to us.

For example, we know Kulbushan Yadav, Uzaır Baloch, and this guy.

Where is kech?

 

[TNT]

Doesn't make any difference who signed it bud. You follow American sanctions, then Thats what you receive in exchange.
Pipelines are the most secure way of importing energy, its highly trustworthy in case of a war, no One could Stop the gas Flow from Iran to Pakistan but Pakistan could cut it for Indians. You Just lost a leverage on India actually.

PGCC sheyks don't need you to define them MBS said that we were spreading our Wahabi ideology at request of West. Lmao, their religion steams from West.

And on whose request is iran spreading shia ideology through middle east? Israel or india or russia?
Who said pipelines are secure? Lolz they can easily be blown up at multiple locations. We also dont want iran to have leverage on us, as iran is already indian ally. U give space to their RAW against Pakistan and u send in spies to destabilize Pakistan, its no more hidden.
And how can we ignore zanabiyun and fatmiyin bridges being hired from Pakistan and those stupid Pakistani shias used as canon fodder by iranians for their own vested interests. We jave shown patience, but once we run out of it, iran wont like it.

Linking chahbhar will benefit us when we can ship goods to central Asian countries as Afghanistan is unstable for foreseeable future. It will generate revenue for Pakistan when big shipments from around the world will land at Gawadar. It will not be China oriented port only as we are not seeing any traffic so far from China as they might only use it just in case their sea route is blocked. We can connect to Turkey & Europe through land route from Iran. More swift way. When Iran is tilting towards Pakistan what's wrong with you? Don't be emotional but be practical.

GCC will never leave America. They worship them. The american brands they have in GCC you would be amazed to see them how many of them are established there.
Yes Iran have to politically grow up along turkey. It doesn't mean that if things don't go your way you have to take out your guns each time. There is a thing called diplomacy. That is lacking in gulf countries along Turkey, Iran.

Actually iran didn't care and asked india to develop chabahar, why r they begging us now?? Yes because india is respeccting US sanctions. What makes u think they wont go back to being indian allies?? For the time being we dont need chabahar or iran, we dont even need Afghanistan. Kashgar is the hub for central asia as all roads and rail links Kashgar to gawadar and central asia. China itself is not taking chances with iran and Afghanistan. Also iranian interference in our internal issues is too much and better we keep such regimes out.

 

[Muhammed45]

And on whose request is iran spreading shia ideology through middle east? Israel or india or russia?
Who said pipelines are secure? Lolz they can easily be blown up at multiple locations. We also dont want iran to have leverage on us, as iran is already indian ally. U give space to their RAW against Pakistan and u send in spies to destabilize Pakistan, its no more hidden.
And how can we ignore zanabiyun and fatmiyin bridges being hired from Pakistan and those stupid Pakistani shias used as canon fodder by iranians for their own vested interests. We jave shown patience, but once we run out of it, iran wont like it.



Actually iran didn't care and asked india to develop chabahar, why r they begging us now?? Yes because india is respeccting US sanctions. What makes u think they wont go back to being indian allies?? For the time being we dont need chabahar or iran, we dont even need Afghanistan. Kashgar is the hub for central asia as all roads and rail links Kashgar to gawadar and central asia. China itself is not taking chances with iran and Afghanistan. Also iranian interference in our internal issues is too much and better we keep such regimes out.

Alright then. Looks like a useless conversation. You have already made up your mind.

Good day dude

 

[RedHulk]

And on whose request is iran spreading shia ideology through middle east? Israel or india or russia?
Who said pipelines are secure? Lolz they can easily be blown up at multiple locations. We also dont want iran to have leverage on us, as iran is already indian ally. U give space to their RAW against Pakistan and u send in spies to destabilize Pakistan, its no more hidden.
And how can we ignore zanabiyun and fatmiyin bridges being hired from Pakistan and those stupid Pakistani shias used as canon fodder by iranians for their own vested interests. We jave shown patience, but once we run out of it, iran wont like it.



Actually iran didn't care and asked india to develop chabahar, why r they begging us now?? Yes because india is respeccting US sanctions. What makes u think they wont go back to being indian allies?? For the time being we dont need chabahar or iran, we dont even need Afghanistan. Kashgar is the hub for central asia as all roads and rail links Kashgar to gawadar and central asia. China itself is not taking chances with iran and Afghanistan. Also iranian interference in our internal issues is too much and better we keep such regimes out.

There won't be any of our investment involved. Even if they go back it will be their loss. Our trade will keep going. We should thank india that they spent on it and we will use it.

 

[TNT]

There won't be any of our investment involved. Even if they go back it will be their loss. Our trade will keep going

Why not? We create connectivity, create easy border crossing and then they invite those ugly hindutva agents, they will wreck havoc. Also iran is under sanctions and we better stay away. Iran Turkey relations are also not doing well and seems will deteriorate in future, so connectivity with Turkey is out of the way.
Better we secure our route to kashgar, uzbekkstan and Kyrgyzstan already signed for using gawadar, Afghanistan is also using it. Later when there is peace in Afghanistan and an allied regime, we can expand gawadar connectivity through Afghanistan to Turkmenistan and the caspian sea.

 

[Muhammed45]

Turkey is an opportunist country, they know well that trading with Iran benefits both sides @RedHulk, they import their natural gas from Iran.

 

[salarsikander]

The treachery of so-called brother nation against the state of Pakistan

Iranian spy drone in Balichsitan that was shot down

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1441595/violating-airspace-fo-confirms-shooting-iranian-drone

Wonder what type of friends spy on each other

Iranian spies caught in Karachi, but we still call them ' friends '

https://timesofislamabad.com/04-May...intelligence-agents-caught-in-karachi-sources

Iran murders our border guards

https://www.dawn.com/news/1138622

 

[Muhammed45]

Iran murders our border guards

https://www.dawn.com/news/1138622

WoW, this Source is serious. It says that Iranian borders guards took a village in Pakistan to hostage. Lmao

Its quoted Source is a guy named Wasey, @Big Tank bro this news outlet dawn is at it again, could you shed some light on it?. I think Its absolutely hilarious.

Guys i just found @BATMAN 's real name. He is Wasey

 

[PakFactor]

@Psychic @Falcon29 @Starlord @Areesh @Hiptullha @313ghazi @masterchief_mirza @Clutch @Pakistani Fighter @PakFactor @Hakikat ve Hikmet

A much needed thread at a much needed time. Thank you sir @RiazHaq , always a pleasure to read your posts.

Iran for far to long has sided with India in damaging Pakistani interests, from Baloch rebels to other insider groups, etc., it needs to be warned and punishment executed on it similar to the Solemani strike. But the problem is also far beyond Iran and leads to the Gulf Arabs who are also supporting Baloch Rebels to destabilize Pakistan. We need a stronger border security in place to prevent any sort of infiltration either using Ifra-Red cameras to drones, etc., to take out rebels not authorized in certain points of the border -- create a transport link that's controlled by Pak Govt. that goes between both nations.

If Iran doesn't straighten up then no choice but engineer some sort of regime change -- Shah was good but these Mullah's are dumb as ****.

 

[salarsikander]

WoW, this Source is serious. It says that Iranian borders guards took a village in Pakistan to hostage. Lmao

Its quoted Source is a guy named Wasey, @Big Tank bro this news outlet dawn is at it again, could you shed some light on it?. I think Its absolutely hilarious.

Guys i just found @BATMAN 's real name. He is Wasey

This is the new if you know how to read english and not just persian


QUETTA: Iranian border guards attacked a vehicle of Frontier Corps, a para-military force, inside Pakistani territory killing one FC man and injuring three others on Friday morning.

Khan Wasey, the Spokesman FC told Dawn.com that Iranian border guards have been violating Pakistani territory since the past two days. He said the FC's vehicle was also damaged during the attack.

The injured personnel were rushed to Quetta for medical treatment.

Wasey said that Iranian border guards entered inside Pakistani territory and attacked the FC vehicle in Mand Tehsil of Balochistan's Kech district.



in another incident


In another incident, Wasey said 30 Iranian border guards entered into Pakistan's town of Nokundi which borders Iran and made the residents of a nearby village hostage for six hours.

"They subjected the residents to physiological torture and then left," he said.

But obvusly being fed up with propaganda, why will you accept the reality ?

WoW, this Source is serious. It says that Iranian borders guards took a village in Pakistan to hostage. Lmao

Oh yes , typial persian trait, deny, be ignorant and be defensive since the reality oesnt fit in their nonsense propaganda.

I think Its absolutely hilarious.

so u find killing of our border Gaurds as hilarious, Youre absolutely sick mate.

@waz can yu please check the above sick remark

Ofc you would also deny the shot down of fake technology drone, right ?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

@Foxtrot Alpha @Irfan Baloch Can we say Iran is working against Pakistan?
Is BLA backed by Iran?

as a general rule I even allow myself to consider that Indian state is not against the existence of Pakistan and its people want a peaceful existence based on mutual trust. regardless of the fact that current Indian government is very hostile and taken its people so far away in the warpath that it will take a long while to settle down and calm down.


coming to your question:-
there are pro and counter points to this assertion.

I have some suspicions of my own but there are counter facts that negate such suspicion and one of the fact is common survival re prevention of Greater Balochistan at the expense of Pakistan, Iran and even Afghanistan.


the challenge is not to prove who is wrong or right but to stay civil and logical and gracefully disagree.
the purpose of this forum is to talk sensibly and distinguish ourselves from twitter, facebook and youtube chat where the discussions go down the toilet route very quickly.


we can have a meaningful and civilized debate if we park the emotions, sectarianism and racism outside of our system before we engage ourselves.

from the media only two names that spring to mind that can articulate themselves very well while remaining graceful and civilized are;
Moed Pirzda and my favorite Ayaz Amir.
I am sure my valued fellow members from Pakistan , Iran, India and Afghanistan have their names to quote.
we dont have strictly copy someone but if we are to be taken seriously we should sometimes write and review before we post our argument. don't be compelled to disagree or agree with someone just because you have made up your mind already.

 

[waz]

Afghanistan is divided by itself to be part of such a nexus, although the Kabul government is.
Iran, much has changed since and now interests align. Iran also doesn’t trust India at all now due to its closeness to key foes of Iran e.g. Israel.
India will always be an enemy.

 

[HAIDER]

as a general rule I even allow myself to consider that Indian state is not against the existence of Pakistan and its people want a peaceful existence based on mutual trust. regardless of the fact that current Indian government is very hostile and taken its people so far away in the warpath that it will take a long while to settle down and calm down.


coming to your question:-
there are pro and counter points to this assertion.

I have some suspicions of my own but there are counter facts that negate such suspicion and one of the fact is common survival re prevention of Greater Balochistan at the expense of Pakistan, Iran and even Afghanistan.


the challenge is not to prove who is wrong or right but to stay civil and logical and gracefully disagree.
the purpose of this forum is to talk sensibly and distinguish ourselves from twitter, facebook and youtube chat where the discussions go down the toilet route very quickly.


we can have a meaningful and civilized debate if we park the emotions, sectarianism and racism outside of our system before we engage ourselves.

from the media only two names that spring to mind that can articulate themselves very well while remaining graceful and civilized are;
Moed Pirzda and my favorite Ayaz Amir.
I am sure my valued fellow members from Pakistan , Iran, India and Afghanistan have their names to quote.
we dont have strictly copy someone but if we are to be taken seriously we should sometimes write and review before we post our argument. don't be compelled to disagree or agree with someone just because you have made up your mind already.

Pakistan economic condition need aggressive trade with our neighbors. And trade is the best solution bring balance in national security related matters in the region. The age of guns and weapons almost over. We can settle the peace with Iran and Afghanistan through massive trade interest and also Pak has no land dispute, but with India Kashmir is long term dispute. That need to be resolved. Otherwise India will use its economic leverage through our neighbors borders in the shape of undercover terrorism inside Pakistan. Pakistan has no trade relations with Afghanistan or Iran which is biggest negative to normalized the relations.
We had one way trade service route from Afghanistan to India. Basically Afghan trucks transport dry fruits to India through Pakistan, but from India they comes back empty, because Pak govt doesn't allow Indian trade to Afghanistan. Now after COVID19 this one way trade is also closed. I doubt OP has much info about regional issues.

 

[BATMAN]

@Foxtrot Alpha @Irfan Baloch Can we say Iran is working against Pakistan?
Is BLA backed by Iran?

Welcome to the planet earth... but wait even if you are an alien you could read the OP and the confessions in following and you wouldn't have been asking this contradictory question.