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India includes Huawei in 5G rollout working groups
Abhishek G Bhaya

India's Department of Telecommunications (DoT) has named Chinese telecom giant Huawei among the firms included in the working groups set up to chart the 5G roadmap for the South Asian country.

The move comes amid the prevailing uncertainties over the fate of Chinese tech firms in India following New Delhi's recent ban on over 200 Chinese mobile apps and its decision to restrict Chinese investments as bilateral ties took a nosedive after the Galwan Valley border clash in June.

Meanwhile, a top representative body of India's telecom operators have urged the DoT to scrap vendor-based restrictions on 5G lab trials indicating that they want Chinese vendors such as Huawei and ZTE to be a part of the country's 5G rollout.

Last week, the DoT announced the formation of eight working groups for 5G rollout in sectors such as agriculture, fintech, education, healthcare, transportation, water and sewage management, industry 4.0, and smart grid.

Huawei has been named as part of the working groups that will conduct a study on the deployment of the 5G technology in the healthcare and fintech sectors, according to a notification by the department. Sweden's Ericsson, Finland's Nokia and U.S.-based Qualcomm Technologies Inc. are the other international firms included in the working groups.

"The objective is to conduct a study and to produce a report with actionable points which brings out the use of 5G mobile technology in the respective sectors and how global use cases of 5G mobile technology in these sectors can be utilized and adapted to the Indian requirements," the DoT said in a notification.

The DoT's Telecommunication Engineering Center (TEC) will lead the task of preparing the report that will have technical solutions, use cases and doable action points. TEC members will head all eight groups which will also have members from Huawei, Ericsson, and Nokia. Qualcomm will have members for industry 4.0, smart grid, and education.

India shifts stance on Chinese tech firms

Exactly a year ago in December 2019, the Indian government had resisted the U.S. pressure permitting Huawei to participate in the country's 5G trials. However, New Delhi's stance on Chinese tech companies changed after the deadly military clash in the disputed western sector of their Himalayan border, formally known as the Line of Actual Control (LAC), in June.

India has lately sent out mixed signals to Chinese tech companies with apps ban and other restrictive regulations in place prompting speculations over whether firms such as Huawei and ZTE will be included in the country's 5G rollout plan, which has been delayed to next year due to the COVID-19 disruption.

Although India hasn't officially barred Chinese firms, reports emerged late summer that New Delhi plans to quietly sideline Huawei and ZTE from its domestic market. It did not include the Chinese vendors in the list of companies invited to participate in next year's 5G trials. As of now Ericsson, Nokia, Samsung, Cisco, and NEC are on that list.

In June, Reuters reported that officials have instructed state firms to keep Chinese telecom equipment out of their networks in favor of domestically sourced technology. In late August, the Financial Times reported that Indian officials are likely to quietly push Chinese telecommunications gear, including from Huawei, out of the country's networks.

According to a report by Indian business news publication LiveMint, New Delhi "will apply investment rules amended on July 23 that cite national security concerns to restrict bidders from nations it shares land borders with to keep out the companies."

Indian telcos want Huawei, ZTE included in 5G trials

Indian telecom operators and mobile phone companies, who have gained tremendously from their business collaboration with Chinese tech firms in recent years, appear to be averse to the idea of such restrictions.

The Cellular Operators Association of India (COAI) on December 2 wrote a letter to the DoT pleading the department to remove equipment and vendor-based application restrictions so that the 5G lab trials are conducted smoothly, indicating that they want Chinese firms like Huawei and ZTE to be part of the 5G rollout plans in India.

The COAI also wanted import duty to be waived and restrictions related to country of origin removed for the trial equipment. They reasoned that for proof of concepts (PoCs) and trial runs, vendors typically import gear instead of using locally made alternative.

The Economic Times, citing people familiar with the matter, reported that the COAI letter is aimed mainly at pushing the government to clarify its official stance on the participation of Chinese firms like Huawei and ZTE in 5G trials and deployment.

While Indian authorities have stopped short of formally banning Chinese vendors, they have yet to clarify a position on the use of Chinese equipment, prolonging uncertainty for the industry.

Indian industry watchers welcomed the latest decision to include Huawei in the 5G working groups. "Ideally, India can't do away with Chinese equipment due to their competitive pricing and vendor financing needs. It's a good decision to have Huawei in the working committee as it will allow gaining perspective from a country that has somewhat similar population size and ahead in 5G," LiveMint quoted Rajiv Sharma, head of equity research, SBICAP Securities.

India is the world's second largest mobile market with 850 million users. According to Ericsson Mobility Report of November, the South Asian nation will have 350 million 5G subscriptions by 2026, accounting for 27 percent of the total mobile connections. The same year, the world is estimated to have 3.5 billion 5G connections, the report said.


So after 60 soldiers slaughtered (not including the many who will freeze to death this winter) and over 1000 square kilometers of territory lost, India is still going to use Huawei. So much to the digital surgical strike lmao ... pathetic.
Finally a forum where I’ve got access to the following emojis!

:yahoo::sarcastic::yay::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha::omghaha:

Don’t worry. I’m sure Modi Ji will overcompensate ... I meant correct his inadequacies with twenty Chinese app bans.
I think we can work together in areas where both sides stand to benefit. Ego/ahankar should have no place in matters of governance.

If Huawei can best the competition from Nokia/Samsung and the rest, and given that any security concerns will have been properly addressed, go Huawei.
Complete BS.
Ministry has clarified that this is working group so all companies offering 5G technologies Had to be included to learn differences between there offers.
Final contract will be given to western companies causing huge loss to China.
 
I’m sure they’re all working as good as your medicine

https://www.livemint.com/news/world...s-for-financial-inclusion-11607411415989.html

not a fan of the guy, btw.

 
Complete BS.
Ministry has clarified that this is working group so all companies offering 5G technologies Had to be included to learn differences between there offers.
Final contract will be given to western companies causing huge loss to China.
An acceptable outcome, if that is how it turns out.

Overall though, because they're in a such a dominating position wrt manufacturing, we have to work with China. This can happen alongside a strong military posture.

Don't tell me you have no made in China stuff in your home right now. :P
 
Complete BS.
Ministry has clarified that this is working group so all companies offering 5G technologies Had to be included to learn differences between there offers.
Final contract will be given to western companies causing huge loss to China.
What is the point of comparing the offers if you Indians had already banned it in June. Either you were Being lied to or you are don’t have the guts for a real boycott
 
Yes, it's called an analogy.

a comparison between one thing and another, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification.
"an analogy between the workings of nature and those of human societies"
  • a correspondence or partial similarity.

You should get help for your rabid anti India psychosis.

Yea and i showed the analogy was a joke just like your chanakya abracadabra. And you got angry as expected . But thats alright buy yourself some cool chinese tech and you can always spin another "analogy" to justify the joy.
 
What is the point of comparing the offers if you Indians had already banned it in June. Either you were Being lied to or you are don’t have the guts for a real boycott
The cow warriors are back they are in denial again. If we are out, then wtf are we even there? In the end, if you want to buy, you buy, if you don't want to buy, no one cares.
 
If anyone doesn’t know tendering in a democratic system, huewei is allowed to avoid single tender conflict in the later stage. All of these tech companies have to partner with a local company to provide service in India just like other Gs. Now only Indian company that has the money and the capability to rollout 5g is reliance which will never partner with any Chinese company as it already has the tech and is competing against Chini footprint in Europe with its own ips. Btw huawei didn’t win the contract or has any footprint in India. It’s just part of the study group to come up with a proposal. Sorry to burst the bubble of the 50 cent wolf warriors.
 
India includes Huawei in 5G rollout working groups
Abhishek G Bhaya

India's Department of Telecommunications (DoT) has named Chinese telecom giant Huawei among the firms included in the working groups set up to chart the 5G roadmap for the South Asian country.

The move comes amid the prevailing uncertainties over the fate of Chinese tech firms in India following New Delhi's recent ban on over 200 Chinese mobile apps and its decision to restrict Chinese investments as bilateral ties took a nosedive after the Galwan Valley border clash in June.

Meanwhile, a top representative body of India's telecom operators have urged the DoT to scrap vendor-based restrictions on 5G lab trials indicating that they want Chinese vendors such as Huawei and ZTE to be a part of the country's 5G rollout.

Last week, the DoT announced the formation of eight working groups for 5G rollout in sectors such as agriculture, fintech, education, healthcare, transportation, water and sewage management, industry 4.0, and smart grid.

Huawei has been named as part of the working groups that will conduct a study on the deployment of the 5G technology in the healthcare and fintech sectors, according to a notification by the department. Sweden's Ericsson, Finland's Nokia and U.S.-based Qualcomm Technologies Inc. are the other international firms included in the working groups.

"The objective is to conduct a study and to produce a report with actionable points which brings out the use of 5G mobile technology in the respective sectors and how global use cases of 5G mobile technology in these sectors can be utilized and adapted to the Indian requirements," the DoT said in a notification.

The DoT's Telecommunication Engineering Center (TEC) will lead the task of preparing the report that will have technical solutions, use cases and doable action points. TEC members will head all eight groups which will also have members from Huawei, Ericsson, and Nokia. Qualcomm will have members for industry 4.0, smart grid, and education.

India shifts stance on Chinese tech firms

Exactly a year ago in December 2019, the Indian government had resisted the U.S. pressure permitting Huawei to participate in the country's 5G trials. However, New Delhi's stance on Chinese tech companies changed after the deadly military clash in the disputed western sector of their Himalayan border, formally known as the Line of Actual Control (LAC), in June.

India has lately sent out mixed signals to Chinese tech companies with apps ban and other restrictive regulations in place prompting speculations over whether firms such as Huawei and ZTE will be included in the country's 5G rollout plan, which has been delayed to next year due to the COVID-19 disruption.

Although India hasn't officially barred Chinese firms, reports emerged late summer that New Delhi plans to quietly sideline Huawei and ZTE from its domestic market. It did not include the Chinese vendors in the list of companies invited to participate in next year's 5G trials. As of now Ericsson, Nokia, Samsung, Cisco, and NEC are on that list.

In June, Reuters reported that officials have instructed state firms to keep Chinese telecom equipment out of their networks in favor of domestically sourced technology. In late August, the Financial Times reported that Indian officials are likely to quietly push Chinese telecommunications gear, including from Huawei, out of the country's networks.

According to a report by Indian business news publication LiveMint, New Delhi "will apply investment rules amended on July 23 that cite national security concerns to restrict bidders from nations it shares land borders with to keep out the companies."

Indian telcos want Huawei, ZTE included in 5G trials

Indian telecom operators and mobile phone companies, who have gained tremendously from their business collaboration with Chinese tech firms in recent years, appear to be averse to the idea of such restrictions.

The Cellular Operators Association of India (COAI) on December 2 wrote a letter to the DoT pleading the department to remove equipment and vendor-based application restrictions so that the 5G lab trials are conducted smoothly, indicating that they want Chinese firms like Huawei and ZTE to be part of the 5G rollout plans in India.

The COAI also wanted import duty to be waived and restrictions related to country of origin removed for the trial equipment. They reasoned that for proof of concepts (PoCs) and trial runs, vendors typically import gear instead of using locally made alternative.

The Economic Times, citing people familiar with the matter, reported that the COAI letter is aimed mainly at pushing the government to clarify its official stance on the participation of Chinese firms like Huawei and ZTE in 5G trials and deployment.

While Indian authorities have stopped short of formally banning Chinese vendors, they have yet to clarify a position on the use of Chinese equipment, prolonging uncertainty for the industry.

Indian industry watchers welcomed the latest decision to include Huawei in the 5G working groups. "Ideally, India can't do away with Chinese equipment due to their competitive pricing and vendor financing needs. It's a good decision to have Huawei in the working committee as it will allow gaining perspective from a country that has somewhat similar population size and ahead in 5G," LiveMint quoted Rajiv Sharma, head of equity research, SBICAP Securities.

India is the world's second largest mobile market with 850 million users. According to Ericsson Mobility Report of November, the South Asian nation will have 350 million 5G subscriptions by 2026, accounting for 27 percent of the total mobile connections. The same year, the world is estimated to have 3.5 billion 5G connections, the report said.


So after 60 soldiers slaughtered (not including the many who will freeze to death this winter) and over 1000 square kilometers of territory lost, India is still going to use Huawei. So much to the digital surgical strike lmao ... pathetic.

You REALLY think Huawei 5G will rollut in India? You're even more delusional than you seem.
What happened to the super awesome JIO 5G that was going to put Huawei to shame?

Jio will roll it out
Jio will be No. 1

If you don't think they will then you don't know Reliance. You have a lot less to worry about the USA and all of western europe than Reliance. They will BUTCHER 5G and nail it on a wall as an example.
 
From my PoV, not a good sign! estranged relation between India and China is better for Pakistan.
 
Indian friends will say this must be fake news :enjoy:

oh you have nothing to worry about India my friend. This is now no longer between India and China. Just ask the Huawei dude to sell his company to reliance. In his declining years he may want some peace and tranquility. At this point, neither Indian or CHinese people can o anyhting.
 
It's about being financially and economically expedient. International relations and trade can not be an all or nothing zero sum game. It is a sign of maturity to rise above differences.

Their schoolkids practiced drills simulating nuclear strikes hiding under their desks but the erstwhile western block still did trade with the Soviets.
wah re kiya twist mara hai re tu ne. Bharat mata ki jai

India always wins, remember.....
 
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