India in R6,000-crore JV with Russia for BrahMos’ air version

[Secur]

Can any knowledgable member confirm/disagree his claims with some points?

Suggest you take it to the appropriate thread ...

But still your expert seems to think that both PAF and Chinese were lying while advertising the weapon for product at Zhuhai Air Show and the confirmation of its integration was made by the JFT's project director itself ! Enough to put the credibility of this so called expert in doubt ...

 

[faithfulguy]

Tell me one thing Yakhont can do that BrahMos can't?

BrahMos has demostrated capabiity to conduct a supersonic steep dive on a land target at Mach 2.8,
could Yakhont do that?

Tell me something JF-17 can do that J-10 cant?

Then can you enlighten us why Russia won't use this missile. In 3-5 years, once the new generation of Russian missile is revealed, we will see why

 

[sexy gun]

Are you suggestion that US won't be able to make a Russian export version of missile such as Brahmos. There is a reason that Russia won't induct Brahmos. It's because they got something better. Brahmos is a joint development similar to how JF-17 is joint development. China won't induct JF-17 for the same reason that Russia won't use Brahmos. They each got something better. So Brahmos is only such a super weapon only in the eyes of Indians.

USA never made it since it's doctrine never included using supersonic ( albeight lower range ) CMs... It's target has always been far from it's homeland. Hence they have always worked on longer ranger bu slower and more precise turbo fan propelled CMs..

Then can you enlighten us why Russia won't use this missile. In 3-5 years, once the new generation of Russian missile is revealed, we will see why

Brahmos couldn't be used since it was not essentially a russian product. And there was a rule in Soviet military to use ONLY indigenous product.. They can't use foreign military product.. but now it has been repealed.. Hence now u see talk of Russia willing to use it or Going for Mistral class ships etc ..

 

[Gessler]

Suggest you take it to the appropriate thread ...

But still your expert seems to think that both PAF and Chinese were lying while advertising the weapon for product at Zhuhai Air Show and the confirmation of its integration was made by the JFT's project director itself ! Enough to put the credibility of this so called expert in doubt ...

The progress on integration of the weapon aside, do you have comments to make
on the capability of the missile in regard to the points he's raised?

 

[Gessler]

Then can you enlighten us why Russia won't use this missile. In 3-5 years, once the new generation of Russian missile is revealed, we will see why

Becoz BrahMos was never meant for Russia. BrahMos was made exclusively for India based on
the Yakhont missile Russia already had since Soviet days.

But still BrahMos is better than Yakhont. But Russia may not consider it cuz they already have enough
missiles performing the same roles.

The F-16E/F Block-60 made for UAE is more capable than F-16C Block-50,,,,why doesn't US buy it?
Why does USAF stick with Block-50 thats less capable?? Becoz upgrading existing weapons everytime
a new development is out makes exorbitant costs.

I hope atleast now your retarded brain sees the light...ahhh, but its till doesn't.

 

[Gessler]

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[Secur]

The progress on integration of the weapon aside, do you have comments to make
on the capability of the missile in regard to the points he's raised?

Yes , I do not think the Chinese are lying to the world despite offering it for export at the air show ! All these claims regarding the missile's capability were made by the company which makes the missile and reported by Jane ... So , I find it really hard to believe what this so called expert has to say regarding where the missile is derived from or what is it top speed ! It was displayed in Zhuhai Air show and you can find the specifications and all the details ( including the interview of the company's representative ) from the appropriate thread ...

 

[Sergi]

Then can you enlighten us why Russia won't use this missile. In 3-5 years, once the new generation of Russian missile is revealed, we will see why

Why would Russia use a missile with 300km range when they definatly have same missile with greater range. And cost is important factor too.
Brahmos is Indian need. Not Russian.
Many people replied the same in many threads. But people like you couldn't grasp it or don't want to grasp.

 

[black_jack]

No first you tell me who is the chick in your profile pic...Shes hot

On topic..
This is not a "True" cruise missile unlike Brahmos which is a "True" cruise missile...so yes we can give some credit to Brahmos on that..
But its based on a well tried and tested "Guided rocket" system SY-400..In fact its an upgraded and tweaked form of SY-400.

SY-400 (China) - Jane's Strategic Weapon Systems

Now compare this picture with below picture

so accuracy should be better than SY-400

Thats the reason we are paying 4+ million per missile , Brahmos has been tested more than 30 times .

that girl is yami gautam

 

[selvan33]

Guys, since we are on the topic of this new missile that Pakistan has procured from China (regardless of the authenticity of the claims) and its implications as far as our aircraft carriers are concerned, does our aircraft carriers have any defense mechanisms to counter such a missile? In another forum, I read that Barak 8 had intercepted Brahmos (doubt this piece of information), so could the Barak be a suitable candidate to be installed on aircraft carriers against such a missile? Answers will be highly appreciated.

PS: I apologize for being off-topic.

yeah buddy all the aircraft carriers having its own anti air defense defence system but in a limited only. thats why it needs an anti air defence or multi purpose ships (like frigates and destroyers)to escort it

 

[Gessler]

Yes , I do not think the Chinese are lying to the world despite offering it for export at the air show ! All these claims regarding the missile's capability were made by the company which makes the missile and reported by Jane ... So , I find it really hard to believe what this so called expert has to say regarding where the missile is derived from or what is it top speed ! It was displayed in Zhuhai Air show and you can find the specifications and all the details ( including the interview of the company's representative ) from the appropriate thread ...

in this world full of lousy internet media. no one can be sure of whats out there.

still Prasun's points do hold weight.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

what's the big fuss still going on abt the chinese missile,a russian missile of similar speed has been around for decades.

 

[Secur]

still Prasun's points do hold weight.

Yes , if the company's representatives promoting their missile for export in International market were lying then this points hold weight not otherwise !

 

[sexy gun]

Yes , if the company's representatives promoting their missile for export in International market were lying then this points hold weight not otherwise !

ok ok.. Pakistan has got a missile which no one has or ever thought of.. now plz spare us your babble.. !!

 

[Secur]

ok ok.. Pakistan has got a missile which no one has or ever thought of.. now plz spare us your babble.. !!

See , who's post I was replying to and who bothered to search the whole internet to find an analysis by a so called defense expert writing an Indian blog than talk of babble here !