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India has to Clear Purchase of Chinook and Apache helicopters by 31st March Or Cost goes up
SOURCE: HINDUSTAN TIMES

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In a bid to beef up its rapid deployment and strike capability, the defence ministry is set to approach the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) for the acquisition of 15 heavy-lift twin rotor Chinook and 22 Apache Longbow helicopters from US aircraft major Boeing. The move comes as Boeing is expected to revise the cost of these helicopters after March 31.

The $2.5 billion deal was cleared by the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) under the then defence minister Arun Jaitley last August.

South Block sources said the acquisition is being negotiated for the past five years with Boeing holding to the agreed price till March 31. “The manufacturer had extended the agreed price to March after the October 2014 deadline expired. If Boeing decides to revise prices of both Chinook and Apache after the new deadline, the deal will have to be re-tendered and re-negotiated. This concern has been conveyed to the highest level in the government,” said a senior official.

Government sources said even though the Narendra Modi government was keen to acquire the helicopters, the deal has been hanging fire as the defence ministry lacks capital funds.

The delay took place despite the manufacturer dropping the contentious limited liability clause at the instance of Indian negotiators.

The Indian Air Force (IAF) has four heavy-lift Mi-26 helicopters based in Chandigarh and two squadrons of Mi-35 attack helicopters based in Suratgarh and Pathankot acquired from Russia in 1980s. The Boeing Chinook-47D and Apache-64 D with Hellfire missiles in its arsenal are far superior to their Russian counterparts both in terms of
India has to Clear Purchase of Chinook and Apache helicopters by 31st March Or Cost goes up | idrw.org
 
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India has to Clear Purchase of Chinook and Apache helicopters by 31st March Or Cost goes up
SOURCE: HINDUSTAN TIMES

chinook-apache.jpg


In a bid to beef up its rapid deployment and strike capability, the defence ministry is set to approach the Cabinet Committee on Security (CCS) for the acquisition of 15 heavy-lift twin rotor Chinook and 22 Apache Longbow helicopters from US aircraft major Boeing. The move comes as Boeing is expected to revise the cost of these helicopters after March 31.

The $2.5 billion deal was cleared by the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC) under the then defence minister Arun Jaitley last August.

South Block sources said the acquisition is being negotiated for the past five years with Boeing holding to the agreed price till March 31. “The manufacturer had extended the agreed price to March after the October 2014 deadline expired. If Boeing decides to revise prices of both Chinook and Apache after the new deadline, the deal will have to be re-tendered and re-negotiated. This concern has been conveyed to the highest level in the government,” said a senior official.

Government sources said even though the Narendra Modi government was keen to acquire the helicopters, the deal has been hanging fire as the defence ministry lacks capital funds.

The delay took place despite the manufacturer dropping the contentious limited liability clause at the instance of Indian negotiators.

The Indian Air Force (IAF) has four heavy-lift Mi-26 helicopters based in Chandigarh and two squadrons of Mi-35 attack helicopters based in Suratgarh and Pathankot acquired from Russia in 1980s. The Boeing Chinook-47D and Apache-64 D with Hellfire missiles in its arsenal are far superior to their Russian counterparts both in terms of
India has to Clear Purchase of Chinook and Apache helicopters by 31st March Or Cost goes up | idrw.org

Let's hope these idiots clear the deal before march 31
 
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So another hustle and puzzles ..
Not at all. This is how these things work- the bidder places a bid with a limited validity period, in this case the bid expired in October 2014 but the GoI asked Boeing to extend the validity of this bid to the 31st of March 2015 which they agreed to do.

This is the cost of delaying and delaying defence deals (and has cost India a lot over the years). Hopefully with a more assertive government deals will stop falling pray to this.


If a procurement is cleared by cabinet does th a time mean money is also alloted ?
The CCS approval is the last hurdle, once they have cleared it funds are released and the contracts signed.
 
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Let's hope these idiots clear the deal before march 31
I'm pretty confident, the GoI seems keen on this and the DM is a pragmatic man, funds shouldn't be an issue as although the deals are worth $2.5 billion only 10% or so of this has to be paid up front and thus $250 million is not much when looking at India's defence budget.
 
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Not at all. This is how these things work- the bidder places a bid with a limited validity period, in this case the bid expired in October 2014 but the GoI asked Boeing to extend the validity of this bid to the 31st of March 2015 which they agreed to do.

This is the cost of delaying and delaying defence deals (and has cost India a lot over the years). Hopefully with a more assertive government deals will stop falling pray to this.



The CCS approval is the last hurdle, once they have cleared it funds are released and the contracts signed.

So you are saying since the cabinet approval is given the deal will not take much more time
 
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Not at all. This is how these things work- the bidder places a bid with a limited validity period, in this case the bid expired in October 2014 but the GoI asked Boeing to extend the validity of this bid to the 31st of March 2015 which they agreed to do.

This is the cost of delaying and delaying defence deals (and has cost India a lot over the years). Hopefully with a more assertive government deals will stop falling pray to this.



The CCS approval is the last hurdle, once they have cleared it funds are released and the contracts signed.

What about the MoD DAC clearing . ? If I understood properly . First DAC then goes to CCS ? So finance ministry allot funds ?

So it doesn't mean that delay is due to insufficient funding . ?

I'm pretty confident, the GoI seems keen on this and the DM is a pragmatic man, funds shouldn't be an issue as although the deals are worth $2.5 billion only 10% or so of this has to be paid up front and thus $250 million is not much when looking at India's defence budget.
Rest after the delivery or work in progress ?
 
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So you are saying since the cabinet approval is given the deal will not take much more time
Once the CCS gives the green light to this deal the deal is signed within a few days/weeks and funds are released.

What about the MoD DAC clearing . ? If I understood properly . First DAC then goes to CCS ? So finance ministry allot funds ?
DAC is the first clearance (already obtained for these deals), then it goes to the Finance ministry and the CCS, headed by the PM is the final rung on the ladder, once the CCS clear it the deal is a go.

So it doesn't mean that delay is due to insufficient funding . ?
Not necessarily, things take time and who knows what state this deal was in when the new GoI took office. That the DAC has cleared them indicates this deal is going through.

Rest after the delivery or work in progress ?
Rest spread out over 5-10 years depending on the agreement and payment plan.
 
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