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India 'has most people with HIV'

The question of exactly where the transfer took place, and where the 'epidemic' officially first developed has always been controversial. Some have suggested that it is dangerous to even try to find out, as AIDS has frequently been blamed on an innocent person or group of individuals in the past. However, scientists remain keen to find the true origin of HIV, as most agree it is important to understand the virus and its epidemiology in order to fight it.
So did it definitely come from Africa?
Given the evidence we have already looked at, it seems highly likely that Africa was indeed the continent where the transfer of HIV to humans first occurred (monkeys from Asia and South America have never been found to have SIVs that could cause HIV in humans). In May 2006, the same group of researchers who first identified the Pan troglodytes troglodytes strain of SIVcpz, announced that they had narrowed down the location of this particular strain to wild chimpanzees found in the forests of Southern Cameroon. By analysing 599 samples of chimp droppings (P. T. troglodytes are a highly endangered and thus protected species that cannot be killed or captured for testing), the researchers were able to obtain 34 specimens that reacted to a standard HIV DNA test, 12 of which gave results that were virtually indistinguishable from the reactions created by human HIV. The researchers therefore concluded that the chimpanzees found in this area were highly likely the origin of both the pandemic Group M of HIV-1 and of the far rarer Group N. The exact origins of Group O however remain unknown.

HIV Group N principally affects people living in South-central Cameroon, so it is not difficult to see how this outbreak started. Group M, the group that has caused the worldwide pandemic, was however first identified in Kinshasa, in the Democratic Republic of Congo. It is not entirely clear how it transferred from Cameroon to Kinshasa, but the most likely explanation is that an infected individual travelled south down the Sangha river that runs through Southern Cameroon to the River Congo and then on to Kinshasa, where the Group M epidemic probably began.

Just as we do not know exactly who spread the virus from Cameroon to Kinshasa, how the virus spread from Africa to America and beyond also remains a mystery. It is quite possible that separate 'pockets' of the virus could have been developing in a number of different countries years before the first cases were ever officially identified, making it virtually impossible to trace one single source.
What caused the epidemic to spread so suddenly?

There are a number of factors that may have contributed to the sudden spread of HIV, most of which occurred in the latter half of the twentieth century.

Travel

Both national and international travel undoubtedly had a major role in the initial spread of HIV. In the US, international travel by young men making the most of the gay sexual revolution of the late 70s and early 80s would certainly have played a large part in taking the virus worldwide. In Africa, the virus would probably have been spread along truck routes and between towns and cities within the continent itself. However, it is quite conceivable that some of the early outbreaks in African nations were not started by Africans infected with the 'original' virus at all, but by people visiting from overseas where the epidemic had been growing too. The process of transmission in a global pandemic is simply too complex to blame on any one group or individual.

Much was made in the early years of the epidemic of a so-called 'Patient Zero' who was the basis of a complex "transmission scenario" compiled by Dr. William Darrow and colleagues at the Centre for Disease Control in the US. This epidemiological study showed how 'Patient O' (mistakenly identified in the press as 'Patient Zero') had given HIV to multiple partners, who then in turn transmitted it to others and rapidly spread the virus to locations all over the world. A journalist, Randy Shilts, subsequently wrote an article based on Darrow's findings, which named Patient Zero as a gay Canadian flight attendant called Gaetan Dugas. For several years, Dugas was vilified as a 'mass spreader' of HIV and the original source of the HIV epidemic among gay men. However, four years after the publication of Shilts' article, Dr. Darrow repudiated his study, admitting its methods were flawed and that Shilts' had misrepresented its conclusions.

While Gaetan Dugas was a real person who did eventually die of AIDS, the Patient Zero story was not much more than myth and scaremongering. HIV in the US was to a large degree initially spread by gay men, but this occurred on a huge scale over many years, probably a long time before Dugas even began to travel.
The Blood Industry

As blood transfusions became a routine part of medical practice, an industry to meet this increased demand for blood began to develop rapidly. In some countries such as the USA , donors were paid to give blood, a policy that often attracted those most desperate for cash; among them intravenous drug users. In the early stages of the epidemic, doctors were unaware of how easily HIV could be spread and blood donations remained unscreened. This blood was then sent worldwide, and unfortunately most people who received infected donations went on to become HIV positive themselves.

In the late 1960's haemophiliacs also began to benefit from the blood clotting properties of a product called Factor VIII. However, to produce this coagulant, blood from hundreds of individual donors had to be pooled. This meant that a single donation of HIV+ blood could contaminate a huge batch of Factor VIII. This put thousands of haemophiliacs all over the world at risk of HIV, and many subsequently contracted the virus.
Drug Use

The 1970s saw an increase in the availability of heroin following the Vietnam War and other conflicts in the Middle East , which helped stimulate a growth in intravenous drug use. This increased availability and together with the development of disposable plastic syringes and the establishment of 'shooting galleries' where people could buy drugs and rent equipment, provided another route through which the virus could be passed on.


It is likely that we will never know exactly how or when the AIDS actually originated. Scientists investigating the possibilities often become very attached to their individual 'pet' theories and insist that theirs is the only true answer, but the spread of AIDS could quite conceivably have been induced by a combination of many different events. Whether through injections, travel, wars, colonial practices or genetic engineering, the realities of the 20th Century have undoubtedly had a major role to play. So perhaps what we should be focussing on now is not how the AIDS epidemic originated, but how we can treat those affected by it, continue to prevent the spread of HIV and change our world to ensure a similar pandemic is never allowed to occur again.

Hope that helps to know about AIDS.
 
Oh I forgot the references.

Here they are:

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3. Nathan D Wolfe, William M Switzer, Jean K Carr et al. "Naturally acquired simian retrovirus infections in Central African Hunters." The Lancet, Vol. 363, 20 March 2004, p. 932
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Other Sources

* Grmek, Mirko D. "History of AIDS: Emergence and Origin of a Modern Pandemic", Princetown University Press, 1990
* Moore, Jim. "The Puzzling Origin Of AIDS", American Scientist, November- December 2004.
* www.thebody.com
* www.aidsorigins.com

Authors

Original page written by Annabel Kanabus & Sarah Allen
Updated by Bonita de Boer
 
Also a fact is that it is spreading faster in poor nations which do not discourage multiple sex partners or promoting protection. Why is the prevelance of Aids lower in Egypt than South Africa?

actually... South Africa is more developed and more ecnomically powerful then Egypt... and AIDS education is more important then discouraging intercourse... it is a personal choice... sexual education and HIV education educates the people of the risks... however you cannot stop someone from taking the risks.. it is that persons body and if he/she wishes to engage in intercourse (especially with prostitutes) then they know the risks and may face the consequences... the more important part other then dicouraging people is to educate them on the risks and consequences, and methods to prevent them... like the free distribution of condoms and such...
 
Jana said:
And Sir its also not a taboo in Pakistan we also have as much open discussion on AIDS on TV channels including state-run TV
Discussing Aids on TV does not make much of a difference. You got to get down to the field, like in India there are NGO's that supply free condoms on highways and etc and that has proved to be effective.
 
1. AIDS education is more important then discouraging intercourse. it is a personal choice.

2. sexual education and HIV education educates the people of the risks. however you cannot stop someone from taking the risks. it is that persons body and if he/she wishes to engage in intercourse (especially with prostitutes) then they know the risks and may face the consequences.

3. the more important part other then dicouraging people is to educate them on the risks and consequences, and methods to prevent them. like the free distribution of condoms and such.

1. Why is education more important than discouraging high risk behaivour? Or is it your personal views? When a factory produces cars, it pumps waste into the rivers. When the actions we undertake impose external costs then we "over engage" in it. In all nations health care is subsidized by the government. When we engage in risky behaivour, we force taxpayers to pay for a portion of the costs of our behaivour. People should be free to jump off a cliff but not if we fall on and kill innocent bystanders at the bottom.

2. When a person engages in sex with a prostitute and gets infected with Aids, other taxpayers are forced to pay to subsidize treatment. When a person gets infected and those goes home and infects his wife then there is an external cost.

3. This is a correct argument, but it is incomplete analysis. When a car factory pollutes the river, the government doesnt provide them with cash and pollution reduction technologies, the firm is "forced" against its personal choice by legislation to install these devices to reduce pollution.

There is no reason why subsidizing condoms and free education is much better than cracking down prostitution and discouraging high risk behaivour. However, I would say a combination of free education to explain the risks of HIV, cracking down on the most blatant prostitution by restricting number of brothels and subsidizing condoms should be attempted.
 
Discussing Aids on TV does not make much of a difference. You got to get down to the field, like in India there are NGO's that supply free condoms on highways and etc and that has proved to be effective.

Discussing Aids on TV and radio is very effective from in desseminating information about the risks of aids and of engaging in risky behaivour. Its the same reason that Pepsi advertises on Tv and radio and doesnt send thousands of NGO's around giving free samples.

Condoms are not 100% effective (Around 97%). Secondly providing free condoms is a cost on tax payers. Therefore it is very possible that going around handing free condoms could infact make people increase their risk taking behaivour in addition to costing taxpayers a lot to provide the free condoms.

You might not know, but improved technologies in car safety has not reduced number of deaths on the road because people know that their cars are safer and drive faster so it evens out.

In a similar manner, if discouraging risky behaivour is not attached with subsidized condoms a perverse situation could arise from an economic and social welfare viewpoint.
 
sigatoka said:
1. Why is education more important than discouraging high risk behaivour? Or is it your personal views? When a factory produces cars, it pumps waste into the rivers. When the actions we undertake impose external costs then we "over engage" in it. In all nations health care is subsidized by the government. When we engage in risky behaivour, we force taxpayers to pay for a portion of the costs of our behaivour. People should be free to jump off a cliff but not if we fall on and kill innocent bystanders at the bottom.
The thing is, you cannot restrict somebody's personal freedoms... it is not as if AIDs infected people do not pay taxes... you cannot chain the people, you can educate them... unless you believe that the people are too stupid to think for themselves so they need a government to do the thinking for them... Our views differ...

2. When a person engages in sex with a prostitute and gets infected with Aids, other taxpayers are forced to pay to subsidize treatment. When a person gets infected and those goes home and infects his wife then there is an external cost.
and is it not also that AIDs infected people have also payed taxes all their life... remember AIDs is not caused by sexual intercoarse alone...

3. This is a correct argument, but it is incomplete analysis. When a car factory pollutes the river, the government doesnt provide them with cash and pollution reduction technologies, the firm is "forced" against its personal choice by legislation to install these devices to reduce pollution.
People aren't factories... as simple as that...

There is no reason why subsidizing condoms and free education is much better than cracking down prostitution and discouraging high risk behaivour. However, I would say a combination of free education to explain the risks of HIV, cracking down on the most blatant prostitution by restricting number of brothels and subsidizing condoms should be attempted.
yes, condoms are already supplied freely... sexual education and AIDs awareness is already being implemented in all Indian schools... and prostitution is illegal but it is IMPOSSIBLE to stop.... you can even find prostitutes in extremely restictive societies like in the UAE or in Saudi Arabia...
 
Discussing Aids on TV and radio is very effective from in desseminating information about the risks of aids and of engaging in risky behaivour. Its the same reason that Pepsi advertises on Tv and radio and doesnt send thousands of NGO's around giving free samples.
Sending NGO's on the ground can help in "targetting" high risk group which is better than radio and TV advt. I'm not saying its waste of time, it help in information dissemination, BUT, you need to target the high risk group.

Condoms are not 100% effective (Around 97%). Secondly providing free condoms is a cost on tax payers. Therefore it is very possible that going around handing free condoms could infact make people increase their risk taking behaivour in addition to costing taxpayers a lot to provide the free condoms.
Not a tangible arguement. Handing out condoms for free will NOT result in increased sex activity. As I said its NGO's which means its not tax payers money. Gates Foundn spent hundreds of millions in India thro NGO's. Also, even if its tax payers money (Govt does handout free condoms along with NGO's), its a well served prupose. Which is cheaper condom or ARV?

You might not know, but improved technologies in car safety has not reduced number of deaths on the road because people know that their cars are safer and drive faster so it evens out.
Wrong analogy. As I said, free condoms will not result in increased sex. Prostitutes will have a field day by handing out free condoms.

In a similar manner, if discouraging risky behaivour is not attached with subsidized condoms a perverse situation could arise from an economic and social welfare viewpoint.
Prevention is better than cure. Condoms are an effective means of prevention , you can combine with radio/TV infomercials, but that alone will not give you results.

Its been proven in the South Indian states, google for it.
 
1. The thing is, you cannot restrict somebody's personal freedoms it is not as if AIDs infected people do not pay taxes. you cannot chain the people, you can educate them...

2. unless you believe that the people are too stupid to think for themselves so they need a government to do the thinking for them...


3. prostitution is illegal but it is IMPOSSIBLE to stop.... you can even find prostitutes in extremely restictive societies like in the UAE or in Saudi Arabia...

1. Yes you can, i am restricted from punching your face in by the law (no matter how much i want to), property rights have been attached to you for your face. Im free to swing my fist, as long as there isnt a face at the end of the arc. Trying to shame, fear, jail or tax people into reducing activities that impose external costs is ingrained in society as it should be, we dont say that to committ rape is a personal freedom because the raped doenst like it.

2. I believe people are too smart and not too ****, when health care is heavily subsidized they will engage in more banging around than when it is not imposing costs on other people who dont. There is also information assymetry, a wife doesnt always know that her husband has been bangin around and has aids untill shes usually infected. Those who infect others with aids should be sent to jail, after all its no different from murdering. If jail sending is reprehensible, action must be taken against prostitution to prevent it from happening in the first place.

3. It is impossible to stop rape, murder, robbery and arson. However to do nothing with the huge redlight districts that line Mumbai is not good. Police can go there, kick people on their ***, throw customers in jail and shame them. This will reduce prostitution at a low cost. Condoms should be subsidized across the board, not given to prostitutes for free.

Your choice of words betray your opinions, you call taxing or restricting prostituition restrictive. Unfortuantely prostitution unchecked and unregulated is spreading HIV throughout India.

You are blinded by your artificial grasp at this concept of freedom without considering the freedom of society to be free from AIDs. To not act now against Aids even if it means curtailing some freedoms is to condemn the children of the future with a terrible disease whihc results in a terrible death. You should see the faces of children born with HIV, a death sentence and tell me, is their condemnation less important than the freedom of young adults engaging in risky sex in red light districts that are openly tolerated???/
 
Best news on AIDS: In South India, HIV down 35 per cent’
Pallava Bagla
Posted online: Thursday, March 30, 2006 at 0000 hrs Print Email
AIDS Maharashtra, TN, AP, Karnataka show one-third dip between 2000-2004: Lancet report

NEW DELHI, MARCH 29:In what experts call the “best news on AIDS for India,” an Indo-Canadian team of scientists has come up with the first definitive evidence that the AIDS epidemic is slowing down in at least southern India, considered the the cradle of the disease in the country. This essentially means that the prevention program seems to be making headway and gloom-and-doom scenarios of AIDS in India need to be put into perspective.

The study, in the latest issue of the British medical journal The Lancet, reports a one-third decline in new HIV infections in the worst-hit regions of India: Tamil Nadu, Maharashtra, Karnataka and Andhra Pradesh.

While data from north India is still cause for worry, the Lancet study reports that prevalence of HIV-1 (the most common variant of the virus in India) prevalence fell in the southern states from 1.7% to 1.1%—a relative reduction of 35%.

UNAIDS, World Health Organisation and the Government of India all agree on an estimated 5.1 million people infected with HIV, 75% of them in the southern states.

The Lancet study’s 10-member team of researchers studied a sample of over 2.9 lakh women and 58,000 men attending 132 sexually transmitted infection (STI) clinics in the north and south from 2000 to 2004.

“This is the best news so far on AIDS in India,” Nirmal Kumar Ganguly, director general of the Indian Council of Medical Research, told The Indian Express tonight, adding that intervention strategies based on increasing awareness and imparting adequate information especially among high-risk groups might have helped put a brake on the epidemic.

Corollary: an even bigger effort is needed in the rest of India especially in currently low-prevalence states if the war on AIDS has to be won, said Ganguly.

The Lancet study tracked HIV prevalence among young women between 15-24 years of age attending pregnancy or antenatal clinics in India’s southern and northern states. Researchers used HIV trends among young women attending antenatal clinics as an indicator to monitor trends in new infections among the general population.

In India, the male use of female sex workers is the main reason for the spread, which subsequently puts wives in a vulnerable position. According to the research group, in recent years, the Indian government, the World Bank and other agencies have aimed intervention and awareness programmes aimed at sex workers and their efforts appear to have contributed “to a drastic decline.”

“There have been many predictions, mostly based on guesswork, that India’s AIDS problem will explode—as it did in southern Africa—but we now have direct evidence of something positive,” says the study’s co-author, Prabhat Jha, of the Department of Public Health Sciences, University of Toronto, Canada, formerly with the World Bank in New Delhi.

“The good news is that HIV in young adults appears to be declining in the south—most likely or perhaps only due to men keeping away from red light area or using condoms more often when they do. The not-so-good news is that trends in the north remain uncertain and poorly studied.”

Most of the data emerged from portals of the National AIDS Control Organization, New Delhi. Reinforcing this positive trend, says the lead author of the study, Rajesh Kumar, of the Postgraduate Institute of Medical Education and Research in Chandigarh, is the fact that the decline among young women in the south are broad-based: “among urban and rural women and among educated or illiterate women.”

Kumar cautions that while the findings are good news, the battle is far from over. “HIV remains a huge problem in India and we have to remain vigilant,” he said. “We’re not saying the epidemic is under control yet—we are saying that prevention efforts with high-risk groups thus far seem to be having an effect.”

Ashok Alexander, director of Avahan, the AIDS prevention initiative of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, also urges caution: “Prevention works but we have not achieved scaled prevention yet in India.”

He suggests that Jha’s data shows that the epidemic is not under control in Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka while there is a more positive trend in Maharashtra and Tamil Nadu where there has been the longest record of prevention.

Alexander, who looks after the $200-million AIDS initiative of the Gates Foundation feels that data is misleading as an indicator of epidemic trends in India adding that “we need data from high-risk groups that is highly missing.”

http://www.indianexpress.com/story/1432.html

check this link on how NGO's in south India spread the message,
http://www.aidsmap.com/en/docs/C10B8DE8-CDC4-429D-8D03-7786665D3D94.asp
 
India, China look to Thailand on AIDS

By Siddhartha Kumar, Bill Smith and Peter Janssen

New Delhi/Beijing/Bangkok (dpa) - As HIV/AIDS infections rise rapidly among women in India and China, some experts are urging the world's two most populous nations to learn from the experience of Thailand.

Social stigma, lack of empowerment, poverty, poor education, labour mobility and trafficking are the main factors behind the soaring numbers of Indian and Chinese women infected with HIV/AIDS.

An estimated 2 million women account for 39 per cent of India's 5.2 million people living with HIV/AIDS.

HIV/AIDS has exacerbated gender inequalities across India, a traditionally male-dominated society where women bear the brunt of the epidemic, psychologically, socially and economically.

"The stigma attached to the disease is so high that over 70 per cent do not disclose they are HIV positive for fear of losing their jobs or their respect in the community," Ramamani Sundar, author of the recent report "Gender impact of HIV/AIDS in India", told Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa.

"The most worrisome aspect is that women marry HIV positive men unknowingly, get infected and are becoming widows at a young age," Sundar said.

Most of these HIV-infected widows are driven out of their marital homes, denied a share of family property, and fall into poverty.

Lack of education and gender discrimination have also raised the vulnerability of Indian women to HIV infections.

"Women are more prone to HIV because of the gender bias; they are not in a position to negotiate condom usage by their partners, or refuse sex," said Kalyani Subramanian of the Delhi-based Naz Foundation, which provides health care facilities for women and children infected with HIV.

In China, the government estimates that there are 180,000 women, or 28 per cent, out of 650,000 people infected with HIV/AIDS.

But the ratio of new infections in men and women is now 1:1 in some areas of China, raising similar concerns to those in India.

The Chinese Government has recognized an "alarming shift" in the pattern of new infections since the 1990s, when about 85 per cent of infections occurred in men.

The issues driving the change are the familiar ones of poverty forcing women into the sex industry, with poor education limiting employment prospects and knowledge of safe sex, said Edmund Settle, HIV/AIDS programme manager for the United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) in China.

"It's common globally; you see the same trend," Settle told dpa.

One difference in China is that some women were infected through illegal blood plasma donation in poor areas, or through intravenous drug use.

But most newly infected women are sex workers or part of the general population.

With very low condom usage, even among sex workers, UN experts have warned that 10 million Chinese could be HIV-positive by 2010 if the government fails to expand its education, prevention and anti- discrimination campaigns.

Following Thailand, the Chinese government, UN and non- governmental organizations have all started programmes to distribute free condoms and educate women in the most vulnerable groups.

Yet as the number of sex workers in China has grown to an estimated 6 million or more, the government continues to marginalize them by criminalizing their economic activity.

Such policies are "not only ineffective, but inhibit those who are actively trying to reach the individuals most vulnerable to HIV/AIDS," Settle said.

A failure to address this contradiction between health and legal policies "may contribute to an uncontrollable HIV/AIDS epidemic in China, by directly contributing to a substantial increase in sexual transmission rates among sex workers and the general population", he said.

Prostitution was a major factor in the spread of HIV/AIDS in Thailand, which detected its first HIV/AIDS case in 1984 and has since lost 551,505 people to the pandemic.

HIV/AIDS has been predominantly transmitted heterosexually in Thailand. In the initial stages most infections were among male homosexuals and drug users, but Thai men and women are now equally affected.

"The HIV rate among [male] conscripts and pregnant women, our two target blood sample groups, is now about the same, with pregnant women a bit higher," said Kamnuan Ungchusak, director of the Thai Health Ministry's Bureau of Epidemiology.

The Thai government's initial anti-HIV/AIDS programmes targeted sex workers and included winning strategies such as passing out free condoms to brothels, awareness campaigns and free check-ups at public clinics.

Many of these programmes fell victim to Thailand's universal health-care policy, initiated by Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra in 2001.

The health programme has helped poor Thais, but it has led to cuts in HIV/AIDS programmes for sex workers, and the stigma attached to their profession means they are unlikely to attend public hospitals.

"It's not convenient or friendly for them," Kamnuan said of the public hospitals. "You need a very special setting."

Settle believes another social programme pioneered in Thailand can at least help women infected with HIV in poor areas of China, India and other developing nations where HIV/AIDS is rising.

The UNDP last month began a pilot scheme for a small group of women to develop a "positive partnership project" (PPP) in the south-western border province of Yunnan, where China's first HIV/AIDS infections were found.

"It's pretty promising," Settle said. "It's one of the first projects in China that links HIV to poverty."

Thailand's PPPs offer small business loans to pairs of HIV-positive and HIV-negative people, both of whom must agree to become "community ambassadors" for people living with HIV.

Small groups of women would lead two similar pilot projects to the Yunnan one in poor areas of India and Cambodia, Settle said.

"It's worked pretty successfully in Thailand," he said.

http://www.bangkokpost.net/breaking_news/breakingnews.php?id=111987
 
These days, when 30-year-old Pushpa Das, a prostitute in Sonagachi, is confronted by a man who refuses to diminish his pleasure by wearing a condom, she tells him to go away and knows her madam will back her up. ''Sometimes I have to lose a customer, but I don't want to get H.I.V.,'' Mrs. Das said evenly. ''I just return the money.''

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpa.../Diseases, Conditions, and Health Topics/AIDS


At Murrow High School, where Kelly is among 4,100 students in a building that fills an entire city block, students have been getting free condoms since 1991. Schools Chancellor Joseph A. Fernandez started the program then throughout the system as a way to reduce the spread of AIDS, but it was so vigorously denounced by opponents as promoting adolescent promiscuity that it contributed to his ouster about two years later.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpa.../Diseases, Conditions, and Health Topics/AIDS
 
Also, even if its tax payers money (Govt does handout free condoms along with NGO's), its a well served prupose. Which is cheaper condom or ARV?


It is cheaper still to tax prostitution, encourage people not to engage in risky behaivour along with subsidizing condoms. Giving out free condoms is better than giving free ARV but its not the best policy.
 
I agree. Heck, prostitution is the oldest known profession to mankind and it cannot be eliminated or banned.

Now the mere talk of legalizing prostitution will surely not work in India and it would receive worse criticism in Pakistan.
 
Originally Posted by Jana
And Sir its also not a taboo in Pakistan we also have as much open discussion on AIDS on TV channels including state-run TV

Did I say it is a taboo in Pakistan?

Why read more than what I write and why always equate everything in an India - Pakistan equation?

Just to make you all happy, Pakistan is a fabulous country. I hope that makes you breathe a little bit easier. I don't know what else I must to do to make you comfortable!
 

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