India gives Pak proof of cross-border linkages to Hyderabad blast

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Press Trust Of India
New Delhi, October 22, 2007
First Published: 20:18 IST(22/10/2007)
Last Updated: 20:32 IST(22/10/2007)
India gives Pak proof of cross-border linkages to Hyderabad blast

India on Monday sought Pakistan's cooperation in tracking down the suspects in the recent bomb blasts in Hyderabad, Ajmer and Ludhiana as it provided evidence of the cross-border linkages to these incidents at the Joint Anti-Terror Meeting (JATM) in New Delhi.

New Delhi also sought to know what action Islamabad had taken on information provided about persons believed to be behind the cross-border Samjhauta Express blasts and other terror attacks in India over the last two years.

Both sides shared new information on terrorist incidents, including those which have occurred since the last meeting," a joint statement issued after the second JATM said.

At the meeting, the Indian side provided evidence about involvement of Pakistan-based elements in the bomb blasts at Mecca Masjid in Hyderabad, Ajmer Mosque and Ludhiana cinema hall over the last few months.

Security agencies have blamed some Pakistan-based terrorists for these attacks. National Security Adviser MK Narayanan recently said Pakistani linkages were common to all these terror incidents.

"The Pakistani side assured that it will look into the evidence," a source said after the meeting.

The Indian delegation was led by KC Singh, Additional Secretary (International Organisations) in the External Affairs Ministry while the Pakistani side was headed by Khalid Aziz Babar, Additional Secretary (UN) in the Foreign Ministry.

India also sought to know what Pakistan had done to track down those believed to be behind a bomb blast on Samjhauta Express in February that killed 68 passengers, comprising nationals of both the countries.
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[QADRI]

thats astonishing lets see what Pakistan will do....May be they prove something different.

 

[PakSniper]

Lol, This is such a fantasy for them. Not knowing they have nothing to show, we'll be seeing history repeat itself over and over again.

Reading the article it's quite funny them saying, "India also sought to know what Pakistan had done to track down those believed to be behind a bomb blast on Samjhauta Express in February that killed 68 passengers, comprising nationals of both the countries."

Boy, I would love to know what have they done to stop their activities, thats what we sought to know! Such, Bollywood "Drama" queens. We have asked them to provide some evidence of that train bombing and still till this day we haven't received any information, and plus weren't responsible for their security we have other stuff to take care of instead of their so called citizens.

"Security agencies have blamed some Pakistan-based terrorists for these attacks. National Security Adviser MK Narayanan recently said Pakistani linkages were common to all these terror incidents".

And now someone is going to tell me that money attack on a politician in New Delhi this week also had Pakistani (ISI) hands right, we sent them over to get him killed while he was fighting it off and fell down stairs? Lol.

At times, it's always good to keep your eyes open, leg's closed, instead of shaking it on the corner for free or for money (Publicity).

 

[Flintlock]

Man you people are insufferable. First you say no proof no proof.

Now India is giving proof, and you are talking about monkeys.

Seriously, stop living in denial and wake up. India has got proof. Take a look.

At the meeting, the Indian side provided evidence about involvement of Pakistan-based elements in the bomb blasts at Mecca Masjid in Hyderabad, Ajmer Mosque and Ludhiana cinema hall over the last few months.

What more do u want? Do u want to see the proof yourself to be convinced? cause that ain't happening.

Why isn't Pakistan handing any proof of the alleged RAW activities in Pakistan?

 

[QADRI]

good man, but this is for the first time you people have given the proofs, tell me where are the proofs of bombay train blasts and Blast of samjota Express near paniput...may be you are right but you people first should look at your internal black sheep of Asam and southern India may be they are involved.

 

[Flintlock]

Yes, we do take action against other anti-nationals as well, not just the ones from Pakistan.

Bhutan and Myanmar recently flushed out Indian separatists from their lands when India requested them to do so. That is what I call cooperation. If Pakistan could also take such an initiative then it would go a long way in making peace between the two nations.

Police have arrested various Indians in the blasts as well. Unfortunately, the big fish have escaped to B'desh and Pakistan as usual, where they find safe haven.

 

[QADRI]

as usual, what do you wana say man......see your own people first. If Pakistani are usual terrorist for you then Indians are the usual terrorist for us, come on man change your old thinking of just putting a blame on others. we are taking actions against terrorism more then you people you also know it.

 

[Spring Onion]

New Delhi also sought to know what action Islamabad had taken on information provided about persons believed to be behind the cross-border Samjhauta Express blasts and other terror attacks in India over the last two years.

1. So they are believed to be not sured to be the culprits

But lets skip this word and coming back to the claim of india.
As soon as the Samjhota Express blasts the Indian officials started pointing fingers at ISI on media channels now if they are geniouse to trace that in few minutes ????????

2. Most of those killed in Samjhauta Express were Pakistanis and if you people remember the one who was helping the indian police in investigations was a Pakistani who was quoted as doubtful by Indian BS media as usual.
3. The incident occured on Indian side and as per an indian official the government knew that blasts will be occured in few trains and the danger was approaching but they were not sure in which train it would be intresting

4. most of them were burned just like Godhra incident even the doors were locked from inside.
Intrestingly what has India done so far to probe the Samjhauta Express blasts ????

Isn’t it the responsibility of Indian government to probe that or they will look at Pakistan to probe something which has occurred on the soil of India ???
The Indians themselves reported that their officials had done a blunder by allowing some passengers to travel without documents now can anyone tell me a train that is heading towards Pakistan from India if have some passengers without valid documents can travel with help of whom?? India or Pakistan ??


Both sides shared new information on terrorist incidents, including those which have occurred since the last meeting," a joint statement issued after the second JATM said.[/QUOTE]

Both countries have shared their evidence so what had india done about the BLA Terrorist funded by india on the information Pakistan shared about these Indian terrorists ????

At the meeting, the Indian side provided evidence about involvement of Pakistan-based elements in the bomb blasts at Mecca Masjid in Hyderabad, Ajmer Mosque and Ludhiana cinema hall over the last few months.

Ajmer blasts occured few days back right !!!!
So the indians have suddenly become so smart that they had traced the culprits in few days but still fail to trace the culprits behind Godhra killings of hunderds of innocent Muslims ???

 

[Flintlock]

1. So they are believed to be not sured to be the culprits

Er...innocent till proven guilt, isn't it?

But lets skip this word and coming back to the claim of india.
As soon as the Samjhota Express blasts the Indian officials started pointing fingers at ISI on media channels now if they are geniouse to trace that in few minutes ????????

Media channel point fingers. Officials simply speculate based on available evidence. IF you consider a TV channel as official word of the govt., then you are making a mistake IMO.

2. Most of those killed in Samjhauta Express were Pakistanis and if you people remember the one who was helping the indian police in investigations was a Pakistani who was quoted as doubtful by Indian BS media as usual.

Dunno....I didn't follow the details at the time...

Both countries have shared their evidence so what had india done about the BLA Terrorist funded by india on the information Pakistan shared about these Indian terrorists ????

Kindly post a link showing that Pakistan gave evidence of Indian involvement in Balochistan.

Ajmer blasts occured few days back right !!!!
So the indians have suddenly become so smart that they had traced the culprits in few days but still fail to trace the culprits behind Godhra killings of hunderds of innocent Muslims ???

Godhra incident is off topic!!
Please stick to the discussion!!

The Godhra incident was an internal matter and has nothing to do with the recent terror attacks.

 

[Spring Onion]

Er...innocent till proven guilt, isn't it? .

indeed

Media channel point fingers. Officials simply speculate based on available evidence. IF you consider a TV channel as official word of the govt., then you are making a mistake IMO..

The indian officials speaking on media not the media channel reports.
Search it on forum i had posted the name of the officil and his statement at that time.

Dunno....I didn't follow the details at the time..

..
Than post after reading

Kindly post a link showing that Pakistan gave evidence of Indian involvement in Balochistan..

Yes we did.
'follow the news if u ever heard Pak spokesperson.

Godhra incident is off topic!!
Please stick to the discussion!!

The Godhra incident was an internal matter and has nothing to do with the recent terror attacks.

It is not off topic.
The same kinda mathod was used in that incident and the indians had blamed Muslims and us for that same as the Samjhota Express train incident.

 

[Flintlock]

The indian officials speaking on media not the media channel reports.
Search it on forum i had posted the name of the officil and his statement at that time.

They said that the suspected Pakistanis, not the same thing as a verdict.

Yes we did.
'follow the news if u ever heard Pak spokesperson.

Handing over hard evidence, as India did today to Pakistan, is hardly the same thing as comments by a spokesperson.

t is not off topic.
The same kinda mathod was used in that incident and the indians had blamed Muslims and us for that same as the Samjhota Express train incident.

The Godhra incident was done by Indian muslims, not Pakistani ones. There's a difference here.
I request we discuss the Samjhauta incident here and not Godhra, otherwise like all other topics, it will eventually end up at the LOC.

 

[Spring Onion]

They said that the suspected Pakistanis, not the same thing as a verdict..

AS soon as the incident happend the indian officia had so strong imagination that he suspects Pakistan ??

Handing over hard evidence, as India did today to Pakistan, is hardly the same thing as comments by a spokesperson..

Why india does not make it public if its hard evidence ??

The Godhra incident was done by Indian muslims, not Pakistani ones. There's a difference here..

It was proven by Indian investigations that No Muslim was involved in that train blaz.
If you remember the the Justice Banerjee Commission report.

I request we discuss the Samjhauta incident here and not Godhra, otherwise like all other topics, it will eventually end up at the LOC.

Well if in other threads the the croping up of statement can be carried on here too it can be done.
otherwise delete all those also.
SO lets discuss it

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

An article with a more neutral tone:

Pakistan, India share terror information​

By Jawed Naqvi


NEW DELHI, Oct 22: India and Pakistan reported progress in their widely-watched meeting on a joint Anti-Terror Mechanism on Monday, saying they had exchanged information on new incidents and expected to work together to assist in investigations in the future.

A joint statement issued at the end of their day-long meeting said both sides would hold their next meeting in Islamabad, possibly in the next three or four months.

The mechanism was set up by President Gen Pervez Musharraf and Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in Havana in September last year. This was their second meeting since then.

The statement left enough room to speculate some of the issues that were discussed, including quite possibly the Karachi carnage. It said the two sides “reviewed the follow-up steps taken on the information shared during the first meeting of the Joint Anti-Terror Mechanism held in Islamabad on 6th March 2007 and in the intervening period.”

An indication that the Karachi tragedy was discussed in the talks was present in the next paragraph that said: “Both sides shared new information on terrorist incidents, including those which have occurred since the last meeting. They agreed to continue to work to identify measures, exchange specific information and assist in investigations.”

The Indian delegation was headed by K.C. Singh, additional secretary in the foreign ministry (International Organisations). The Pakistan delegation was led by Khalid Aziz Babar, additional secretary (UN&EC), Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

The Karachi bombings had triggered all round sympathy and solidarity in India for Ms Benazir Bhutto. While Dr Singh led the official response and wrote condolence letters to Gen Musharraf and Ms Bhutto, the opposition was represented by BJP leader L.K. Advani who rang her up. The Indian high commissioner in Pakistan met Ms Bhutto and told her that he looked forward to working with her. All this points to evolving closer cooperation in a joint effort to fight terrorism, analysts say.

The PTI said New Delhi sought to know at the meeting what action Islamabad had taken on information provided about persons believed to be behind the cross-border Samjhauta Express blasts and other terror attacks in India over the last two years. Previously, it was Pakistan that had been asking for details of investigations into the incident.

The PTI said the Indian side provided evidence about involvement of Pakistan-based elements in the bomb blasts at Mecca Masjid in Hyderabad, Ajmer shrine and Ludhiana cinema hall over the last few months.

Security agencies had blamed some Pakistan-based terrorists for the attacks. Indian National Security Adviser M. K. Narayanan recently said Pakistani linkages were common to all these terror incidents.

“The Pakistani side assured that it will look into the evidence,” a source told the PTI after the meeting.

Pakistan, India share terror information -DAWN - Top Stories; October 23, 2007

What exactly are you trying to prove here Stealth? You highlight the part about "cross border linkages", and what do you think that suggests? The reports themselves suggest that there were people from both sides involved, and that some "evidence" has been shared with Pakistan about certain "individuals/groups" who might be involved. Operative word being "might be" - as you yourself said, "innocent till proved guilty".

The "evidence will be vetted by Pakistani LEA's, and pursued if there is any veracity to it, so why all this fuss? Has someone been found guilty? Any major breakthroughs? Do we know if these people are operating out of Afghanistan or the Tribal areas, and using Pakistani territory solely as a conduit?

Note also that only an "unnamed source" has made the disclosure you are harping about, nothing in the official statement, so far.

There is nothing substantial to report, and yet we have whole thread devoted to the "sharing of evidence" for a particular case.

It would have been more appropriate to talk of the bigger story of BOTH sides sharing information and concerns, through joint Anti-Terror Mechanism, with each other regarding terrorism.

 

[solid snake]

India on Monday sought Pakistan's cooperation in tracking down the suspects in the recent bomb blasts in Hyderabad, Ajmer and Ludhiana as it provided evidence of the cross-border linkages to these incidents at the Joint Anti-Terror Meeting (JATM) in New Delhi.

And what exactly is that evidence? A bunch of names on a piece of paper?

 

[su-47]

And what exactly is that evidence? A bunch of names on a piece of paper?

If even the pakistanis accept it as evidence and agree to look into it, then it must be evidence, isnt it?