India Facing Growing Maoists Insurgency, Targets Rights Groups

[RiazHaq]

Maoists in India control almost 25% of the Indian territory in eastern and central India, and Indian government has deployed 100,000 troops to quell the insurgency in what is called Operation Greenhunt. Many analysts, including British writer William Dalrymple, believe the Maoists insurgency in India is no less serious than the Taliban insurgency in Pakistan. Is the growing Maoists insurgency the beginning of a bloody revolution in India?

Now Prashant Bhushan argues that "war on terror has degenerated into war against tribals" in an Op Ed published in the Hindu:

“For every 100 Maoists eliminated, thousands more are created”

“Suppression of dissent is fascist and will escalate into civil war”

NEW DELHI: Human rights activists, journalists and fact-finding committees were being targeted to intimidate them so that there could be no dissenting voices against the State’s alleged war on terror, which had degenerated into a war against the tribals, advocate Prashant Bhushan alleged here over the week-end.

He was speaking at a press conference held to protest against the alleged labelling of civil rights groups and peoples’ movements as Maoist front organisations.

Charge-sheet against Ghandy

Reading from the charge-sheet filed against Maoist leader Kobad Ghandy by the Special Cell of the Delhi Police, Mr. Bhushan said: “Their other front organisations like Revolutionary Democratic Front, People’s Democratic Front of India, Committee for Release of Political Prisoners, Indian Association of People’s Lawyers took up the issues
of human rights violation, civil liberties, atrocities by the police…

Other civil liberties and human rights organisations i.e. People’s Union for Democratic Rights, People’s Union for Civil Liberties (PUCL), Association for Protection of Democratic Rights also take up the issues of their outfit — CPI (Maoist). These organisations play a very important role to broaden the base of the outfit.”

People, who expressed sympathy with human rights activists or exposed and criticised government actions, were accused of being front organisations of the Maoists, he added.

Tribals harassed

Mr. Bhushan said: “The government has done little for the tribals and now they are trying to snatch their land. When tribals agitate peacefully, the State security forces descend on them, harass them and burn their villages.

“About 700 villages have been burnt in the past two years in Chhattisgarh. People are bound to protest and take up arms. For every 100 Maoists eliminated, thousands are created through collateral damage.”

The country was turning into a fascist State through suppression of dissent and this would lead to an escalating state of violence resulting in civil war, he added.

Talks favoured

Stressing that the State could not use illegal means to curb violence, retired Justice Rajinder Sachar said: “The State cannot be a terrorist. It is the ultimate repository of law and order.

"Talks should happen between the government and the Maoists in an open atmosphere where there is no fear. Both sides should cease hostilities for dialogue to take place. The Maoist representative should be granted immunity for the period of talks. In case the talks fail, both sides should be able to return to their respective areas.”

To approach court

“PUCL will go to court to remove its name from the charge-sheet,” he added.

Concurring that the government and Maoists should have talks amid a ceasefire, writer Arundhati Roy said: “Fight for civil liberties, prisoners’ rights and mere thoughts are being criminalised. If those who support human rights activists in their struggle are considered front organisations of the Maoists, by the same argument the Home
Ministry too should be considered the over ground representatives of big corporations.”

http://www.riazhaq.com/2010/03/india-targets-rights-groups-as-maoists.html

Haq's Musings: Bloody Revolution in India?

Haq's Musings: India Deploys 100,000 Troops Against Maoists Revolt

 

[TechLahore]

Maoists in India control almost 25% of the Indian territory in eastern and central India, and Indian government has deployed 100,000 troops to quell the insurgency in what is called Operation Greenhunt. Many analysts, including British writer William Dalrymple, believe the Maoists insurgency in India is no less serious than the Taliban insurgency in Pakistan. Is the growing Maoists insurgency the beginning of a bloody revolution in India?

I wonder if it was a good idea to label CPI-M a terrorist org and ban them... they were an established political party that could potentially have been engaged in dialogue. And these cadres produced people who eventually took high office, such as George Fernandes.

CPI-Maoist banned to avoid ambiguity: Chidambaram: Rediff.com India News

By banning and sidelining these groups, they are excluded from mainstream dialogue, adding more fuel to the fire.

The Naxalite insurgency appears to be spreading and getting worse.

 

[sab]

Riaz has gone mad...25% of Indian territory... Maoists are active in West Bengal does not mean they have control over whole state. They have their strong hold in Jungles in differnt states. But out of Jungle they will be dead ducks. Yet they are not armed like Talibans but regularly looting weapons and rifles from police forces which is a headache for the Administration. As prsently deployed State police forces and CRPFs are not trained for Jungle war fare it will be hard for them to take on the Maoists (If anyone does not have idea about indian jungles please consult who knows about it).

And tell me where did you get George Fernandase was produced by them. Please enlighten us with a valid source.

 

[RiazHaq]

I wonder if it was a good idea to label CPI-M a terrorist org and ban them... they were an established political party that could potentially have been engaged in dialogue. And these cadres produced people who eventually took high office, such as George Fernandes.

CPI-Maoist banned to avoid ambiguity: Chidambaram: Rediff.com India News

By banning and sidelining these groups, they are excluded from mainstream dialogue, adding more fuel to the fire.

The Naxalite insurgency appears to be spreading and getting worse.

Banning organizations is generally a bad idea. Their members go underground and become more alienated and more dangerous.

Mr. Bhushan, an urban civil rights advocate, is defending the rights of the poor peasants who are led by the Maoists leaders like Kobad Ghandy, a foreign educated urbanite from a well-to-do family.

Talking about the probability of a bloody revolution in South Asia, let us remember that the French Revolution was not led by the poor French peasants. Instead, the ideology, the leadership and the resources came from the petty bourgeoisie who were from the urban middle class, dominated by small business owners, shopkeepers and self-employed urbanites. They were not the have-nots, they were have-lesses, relative to the feudal elite favored by the royalty.

Unless Pakistan's urban middle class leads such a revolution, it will not succeed. The poor and rural Taliban or similar other groups will probably be crushed by the Pakistani military. The Maoists in India, led by the left-wing intellectuals, civil society and their urban sympathizers, have a greater chance of success in India than the poor, rural Taliban in Pakistan, whose violent tactics and suicide bombings have destroyed whatever support they had in the cities. They have dug their own graves.

Haq's Musings: India Targets Rights Groups as Maoists Gain

 

[RiazHaq]

Riaz has gone mad...25% of Indian territory... Maoists are active in West Bengal does not mean they have control over whole state. They have their strong hold in Jungles in differnt states.

25% of Indian territory controlled by Maoists is a conservative estimate. Indian defense analyst Bharat Verma believes it's "over 40%" of the territory:

New Delhi [ Images ] and the state capitals have almost ceded the governmental control over 40 percent of the Union's territory to the Naxalites [ Images ]. The Naxals are aided and abetted by the crime mafia that runs its operations in the same corridor from Nepal to Andhra Pradesh, as well as Maoists of Nepal who in turn receive covert support from other powers engaged/interested in destabilising India.

The three dangers that India faces: Rediff.com India News

 

[prototype]

25% of Indian territory controlled by Maoists is a conservative estimate. Indian defense analyst Bharat Verma believes it's "over 40%" of the territory:

New Delhi [ Images ] and the state capitals have almost ceded the governmental control over 40 percent of the Union's territory to the Naxalites [ Images ]. The Naxals are aided and abetted by the crime mafia that runs its operations in the same corridor from Nepal to Andhra Pradesh, as well as Maoists of Nepal who in turn receive covert support from other powers engaged/interested in destabilising India.

The three dangers that India faces: Rediff.com India News

riaz it seems u r little misquoated abt the actual facts

maoist do not controll 25 %,actually they r present in 25% of indian states

and operation greenhunt had yet not started,but some days ago the maoist had announced unilateral ceasefire,and were ready to come and sit on negotiating table if govt is ready to stop operation greenhunt and not ask for their surrender

it clearly showed who is feeling the preesure now

they later broke the ceasefire when govt did not shown any intrest in their ceasefire

 

[Hulk]

25% of Indian territory controlled by Maoists is a conservative estimate. Indian defense analyst Bharat Verma believes it's "over 40%" of the territory:

New Delhi [ Images ] and the state capitals have almost ceded the governmental control over 40 percent of the Union's territory to the Naxalites [ Images ]. The Naxals are aided and abetted by the crime mafia that runs its operations in the same corridor from Nepal to Andhra Pradesh, as well as Maoists of Nepal who in turn receive covert support from other powers engaged/interested in destabilising India.

The three dangers that India faces: Rediff.com India News

Do some research, reading papers will not help you one bit. Nothing replaces people who know ground situation and that is Indian's. If 40% would have been controlled by them all of us might have seen them sometime or other, I guarantee hardly any Indian's might have seen them why?

Also proving your point in forum means nothing, you just become laughing stock, few people said Taliban will take over Pakistan and there were 100 different reports on that, what was ground situation?

The same thing is happening to you, you do not have an iota of idea what you are talking about.

So far Naxal problem is mainly there due to political support, both CPM and Trinimool in West Bengal support them and does not allow actions against them with full support. It is changing and if GOI decides, they will be history.

 

[RiazHaq]

Do some research, reading papers will not help you one bit. Nothing replaces people who know ground situation and that is Indian's. If 40% would have been controlled by them all of us might have seen them sometime or other, I guarantee hardly any Indian's might have seen them why?

Are Verma and Bhushan not Indian?

Watch this video, and hear and see Indians talk about Maoists insurgency:

 

[Hulk]

Are Verma and Bhushan not Indian?

Watch this video, and hear and see Indians talk about Maoists insurgency:

YouTube - Inside Story - India's battle against its Maoists - 29 Sep09

Do you read my post. I pointed the error.
Also I will first check my home to see if my laptop is missing instead of believing what is posted on internet. I do not have access to videos here. If they have controlled 40% we will know before you. There are 100 people discussing 100 things about Pakistan too, many of them are Pakistani. I do not form my opinion like you, I do more research and give value to people on ground more. I believed my Pakistani friends about TTP's influence and results are there for you to see.

 

[sab]

Do some research, reading papers will not help you one bit. Nothing replaces people who know ground situation and that is Indian's. If 40% would have been controlled by them all of us might have seen them sometime or other, I guarantee hardly any Indian's might have seen them why?

Also proving your point in forum means nothing, you just become laughing stock, few people said Taliban will take over Pakistan and there were 100 different reports on that, what was ground situation?

The same thing is happening to you, you do not have an iota of idea what you are talking about.

So far Naxal problem is mainly there due to political support, both CPM and Trinimool in West Bengal support them and does not allow actions against them with full support. It is changing and if GOI decides, they will be history.

hmm....even your post is a proof that people outside knows little about ground situation. CPM is enemy number one for the Maoists since years. We have hardly anyday to read news paper without news of Maoists have killed CPM activists. Mamata banarjee has support for Chhatradhar Mahato and Co but she is also taking U -turn. Only foolish decision of Gvt I think not sending armed force and IAF choppers to eliminate them with iron hand. They have gone just too far. Now discussion is meaningless. If Gvt tries to continues with Police Forces and CRPFs etc who have no knowledge about Jungle warfare it will only get set back.

 

[prototype]

Are Verma and Bhushan not Indian?

Watch this video, and hear and see Indians talk about Maoists insurgency:

YouTube - Inside Story - India's battle against its Maoists - 29 Sep09

once again i want to tell that maoist has a presence in almost 25% of indian states,not controll, thats official,abt 40% presence still not conformed by govt

and by presence it does not means that this 25% is offlimit to indian public and military,the civil administration works there just like the same way of rest in india

these maosist r mostly concentrated in forest and use guirilla war tactics,i mean hit and run,they r still not capable of a direct confrontation with indian forces

and by the way riaz video is very lengthy

 

[Hulk]

once again i want to tell that maoist has a presence in almost 25% of indian states,not controll, thats official,abt 40% presence still not conformed by govt

and by presence it does not means that this 25% is offlimit to indian public and military,the civil administration works there just like the same way of rest in india

these maosist r mostly concentrated in forest and use guirilla war tactics,i mean hit and run,they r still not capable of a direct confrontation with indian forces

and by the way riaz video is very lengthy

tomorrow someone will say they have 100% control and you will not look at your home and ask for proof?

 

[Hulk]

hmm....even your post is a proof that people outside knows little about ground situation. CPM is enemy number one for the Maoists since years. We have hardly anyday to read news paper without news of Maoists have killed CPM activists. Mamata banarjee has support for Chhatradhar Mahato and Co but she is also taking U -turn. Only foolish decision of Gvt I think not sending armed force and IAF choppers to eliminate them with iron hand. They have gone just too far. Now discussion is meaningless. If Gvt tries to continues with Police Forces and CRPFs etc who have no knowledge about Jungle warfare it will only get set back.

I agree I might be confused about CPM because both Trinmool and CPM blame each other to be in bed with Maoist.

In India law and order is state subject and hence to control Maoist sates have to act. The states did not have trained forced, so central government provided it to them.

Now the states are not acting against them and their are allegations that they internally support them.

Chidambaram is trying to push all affected states I guess 6 of them to act together.

We are not using Paramilitary forces or army against them and a need is not felt is itself a proof of their strength.

 

[sab]

Banning organizations is generally a bad idea. Their members go underground and become more alienated and more dangerous.

Mr. Bhushan, an urban civil rights advocate, is defending the rights of the poor peasants who are led by the Maoists leaders like Kobad Ghandy, a foreign educated urbanite from a well-to-do family.

Talking about the probability of a bloody revolution in South Asia, let us remember that the French Revolution was not led by the poor French peasants. Instead, the ideology, the leadership and the resources came from the petty bourgeoisie who were from the urban middle class, dominated by small business owners, shopkeepers and self-employed urbanites. They were not the have-nots, they were have-lesses, relative to the feudal elite favored by the royalty.

Unless Pakistan's urban middle class leads such a revolution, it will not succeed. The poor and rural Taliban or similar other groups will probably be crushed by the Pakistani military. The Maoists in India, led by the left-wing intellectuals, civil society and their urban sympathizers, have a greater chance of success in India than the poor, rural Taliban in Pakistan, whose violent tactics and suicide bombings have destroyed whatever support they had in the cities. They have dug their own graves.

Haq's Musings: India Targets Rights Groups as Maoists Gain

Where do you get all this nonsence form. Leftist intellectuals are just about to swept off by the wave of Western cultures among youth. Leftists parties are now welcoming indusrialists where they are in power. Nobody has time for social revolution in Urban and semi-urban areas. Only one point you said is right is Mafia connection. Activities of Maoists have more similarities with Mafia gangs rather than social revolutionists. Murder, loots, Kidnapping for ransam...And they try to maintain the ambiance which gave birth to them. So killing of doctors and medical staffs, road contractors, engineers and labours. But all these within their stronghold i.e the jungles and sorrounding areas. Unemployed tribals in these backward ares are their fighters. In West Bengal , one of the most affected states the combined strength of all smaller Maoists group is around 300-400. If you think they are controlling the State you are.........And Bharat Verma????....Plz no Zaid hameed, Bharat verma or Hari Sud.....

 

[Hulk]

I hope you understand how much is 25% of land in a country.I.e 1/4 of a country in the hands of maoist.If that was the situation then the United nations instead of sending troops to waziristan will send the troops to India.Maoists are surely there in the country and amny of them are minors ,young and women.I will ceratinly blame our previous Govt. for the situation but the operation againts them is on,not just to evade them but if possible,to get them surrendered.

Man he was saying 40%, that was hilarious.