India denies Holbrooke entry

[Jackdaws]

I love this.

Holbrooke not welcome in India - India - The Times of India

Serves him right.

 

[manish123]

India is growing its spine.

 

[Adios Amigo]

Seems India is really pissed-off with the recent developments in PAK-US Relationship, And therefore wants to get it noticed this time.

 

[Jackdaws]

Seems India is really pissed-off with the recent developments in PAK-US Relationship, And therefore wants to get it noticed this time.

Doubt it - the Pak-US relationship always has had its ebbs and flows. The Pakistanis seem joyous at recent developments - but the USA has a habit of bursting the Pakistani balloon sooner rather than later. The crux is business interests - American firms have no major business interests in Pakistan - so no lobby pushing them to act favorably once the American work is done.

 

[Adios Amigo]

Doubt it - the Pak-US relationship always has had its ebbs and flows. The Pakistanis seem joyous at recent developments - but the USA has a habit of bursting the Pakistani balloon sooner rather than later. The crux is business interests - American firms have no major business interests in Pakistan - so no lobby pushing them to act favorably once the American work is done.

Correct, Its a game of Interests, Specially for the wise Americans, and both parties know it, that's why I did not use the term friendship but relationship.

What so ever the case may be, but India is definitely not happy with it at all, and that's why we see them raising concerns very aggressively, Post the new PAK-US developments.

I find this step in connection to all those indian acts, other then that don't you think its a bit late for the "spine showing" as some of your countrymen described it. Shouldn't It have come, soon after his statements??






Adios

 

[r3alist]

well done india

 

[TheEnrichedOne]

Good work by India. Just tightening the noose around their necks little by little everyday.

 

[third eye]

Glad to see GOI showing spine ( & teeth) .

Relationships & friendships are a two way street. Ppl had begun to feel GOI had begun to give in a trifle extra.

 

[Spring Onion]

A claim by Indians without substance


Lets post the entire propaganda piece bellow and then the dear Indian members should tell me where in this it has been proven that Holbrook was stopped by India from visiting.

A sane person does know that a third world country is the one who will decide whether a top US official should visit India or not.

It is clear that whenever the schedual of Holbrook's visit was finalist he visited whenever there was a change it had been changed.

Bellow is the crap piece which the Indian member had posted.
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Holbrooke not welcome in India - India - The Times of India

NEW DELHI: New Delhi’s doors, it appears, will not open anytime soon for Richard Holbrooke, US special envoy for ******. He has been frozen out of India yet again, after his recent statement that Indians weren’t really targetted in the February 26 attacks in Kabul.

It was a callous remark that was so blatantly aimed at pleasing Pakistanis that the Indian foreign office was forced to make an official complaint about it. Particularly, since it was evident from the beginning that the attack was intended to get India out of Afghanistan, and by Pakistan-supported terror groups. So when Holbrooke announced on March 20 that he would “definitely be going to India soon”, he got the familiar cold shoulder from the MEA. Holbrooke was supposed to travel to Kabul and Delhi in the coming days, stopping by in Brussels.

In the last year, Holbrooke has found that after such public displays of determination to visit India, his travel plans invariably dry up. In fact, after two such freeze-offs, Holbrooke stopped trying in 2009. It was in early 2010 that the MEA decided to let him come to India.

His visit, when it did happen, went off rather well, with Holbrooke getting face-time with everyone in the leadership, including Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

But his remarks after the February 26 attack on guesthouses in Kabul mainly used by Indians brought back the Indian distaste for the special envoy. Speaking to reporters in Washington soon after the attack, Holbrooke held forth, “I don’t accept the fact that this was an attack on an Indian facility... There were foreigners, non-Indian foreigners hurt. It was a soft target. Let’s not jump to conclusions.”

He added, “I understand why everyone in Pakistan and everyone in India always focus on the other. But please, let’s not draw a conclusion for which there’s no proof.” He rendered a qualified apology later.

 

[BlackSonic]

Seems India is really pissed-off with the recent developments in PAK-US Relationship, And therefore wants to get it noticed this time.

Read the article buddy.

@mods

Why did you delete my post? Looks like even you didn't read the article. My post was completely on topic.

 

[Mirza Jatt]

Correct, Its a game of Interests, Specially for the wise Americans, and both parties know it, that's why I did not use the term friendship but relationship.

What so ever the case may be, but India is definitely not happy with it at all, and that's why we see them raising concerns very aggressively, Post the new PAK-US developments.

I find this step in connection to all those indian acts, other then that don't you think its a bit late for the "spine showing" as some of your countrymen described it. Shouldn't It have come, soon after his statements??




Adios

You are actually correct.India is not happy with it at all and thats why theyre are raising concerns very aggressively this time, and there is nothing wrong in it.

Sooner or later,the good thing is that they did show their intentions to the americans.Hope now they understand that we are not liking their plan of dual game.

 

[TheEnrichedOne]

Crying about everything, online and in real life.

 

[Bingo!]

Crying about everything, online and in real life.

Its called war cry..not crying. It requires some spine to show the door to people from US. everybody knows who does the crying of we have done this we have done that , so we need this we need money etc
India has the capacity and capability to say a "NO" or a "yes" in any matter that concerns it.

NEW DELHI: New Delhi’s doors, it appears, will not open anytime soon for Richard Holbrooke, US special envoy for ******.

Why so many stars instead of afgn-pakstn jaana?? because its by an indian media.. ok ill give u wikipedia and some american media . maybe then u ill change

On January 22, 2009, Holbrooke was appointed as a special adviser on Pakistan and Afghanistan, working under President of the United States Barack Obama and United States Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Holbrooke

http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/people/h/richard_c_holbrooke/index.html

 

[manish123]

A claim by Indians without substance


Lets post the entire propaganda piece bellow and then the dear Indian members should tell me where in this it has been proven that Holbrook was stopped by India from visiting.

A sane person does know that a third world country is the one who will decide whether a top US official should visit India or not.

It is clear that whenever the schedual of Holbrook's visit was finalist he visited whenever there was a change it had been changed.

Bellow is the crap piece which the Indian member had posted.
================

Holbrooke not welcome in India - India - The Times of India

NEW DELHI: New Delhi’s doors, it appears, will not open anytime soon for Richard Holbrooke, US special envoy for ******. He has been frozen out of India yet again, after his recent statement that Indians weren’t really targetted in the February 26 attacks in Kabul.

It was a callous remark that was so blatantly aimed at pleasing Pakistanis that the Indian foreign office was forced to make an official complaint about it. Particularly, since it was evident from the beginning that the attack was intended to get India out of Afghanistan, and by Pakistan-supported terror groups. So when Holbrooke announced on March 20 that he would “definitely be going to India soon”, he got the familiar cold shoulder from the MEA. Holbrooke was supposed to travel to Kabul and Delhi in the coming days, stopping by in Brussels.

In the last year, Holbrooke has found that after such public displays of determination to visit India, his travel plans invariably dry up. In fact, after two such freeze-offs, Holbrooke stopped trying in 2009. It was in early 2010 that the MEA decided to let him come to India.

His visit, when it did happen, went off rather well, with Holbrooke getting face-time with everyone in the leadership, including Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

But his remarks after the February 26 attack on guesthouses in Kabul mainly used by Indians brought back the Indian distaste for the special envoy. Speaking to reporters in Washington soon after the attack, Holbrooke held forth, “I don’t accept the fact that this was an attack on an Indian facility... There were foreigners, non-Indian foreigners hurt. It was a soft target. Let’s not jump to conclusions.”

He added, “I understand why everyone in Pakistan and everyone in India always focus on the other. But please, let’s not draw a conclusion for which there’s no proof.” He rendered a qualified apology later.

Sir Times of India is a govt mouthpiece, they will not be commenting on this topic which is very sensitive without GOI prodding. This is written to convey americans a message and if this article is wrong u will soon see NYT or washpo countering which are american govt mouthpieces.

 

[prototype]

good move by india,i can see hoolbroke runnicg to each and every corner in an attempt to soothe indian reactions,after all their business intrests lie here