India Contemplates Anti-Satellite Vehicle Integration with Agni-III Ballistic Missile

[Kompromat]

I am sure there will be players which might jump in and make it more interesting than what you have been describing.

Like who?

You are right there is not much left inside Pakistan to "Destroy". India will be taking a huge risk.

Quit trolling

 

[Mitro]

you got that right

[quote="amitkriit, post: 5881636, member: 154484"

You are right there is not much left inside Pakistan to "Destroy". India will be taking a huge risk.[/quote]

 

[amitkriit]

Like who?



Quit trolling

It is the False-flagger who started it. I have already made a point that any asset which will ever be used against India by the aggressor, doesn't matter to whom it belongs (China, USA, UK, Martians) it will be taken down if it can be taken down by us.

I am sure that the other party will also give some thought to the risk factor before assisting our enemies. If the war is thrust upon us, we will fight to finish.

As far as the "who" is concerned, I won't bank on that factor because I have full faith in the capabilities of the Indian Armed Forces.

 

[TheFlyingPretzel]

There is no argument.
You are absolutely right, there is no doubt in my mind that China will ride like a Knight in shining armour to the rescue, just like in '65,'71 and '99.

Good bye.

You're late to the argument. You missed it all. Your fellow-stooge Gessler here asserted the contrary. His line of argument was that if Pakistan used an atomic device on India, China would disallow Pakistan access to its satellite infrastructure and save India from further obliteration. Lol. Scroll up. It's amusing to say the least.

 

[Kompromat]

Pakistani access to COMPASS/Beidou is not guaranteed even by the Chinese itself!

Pakistan Employs China's Beidou Guidance System, but Access Not Guaranteed | Defense News | defensenews.com

We didn't wanna see another episode of Lungi Dance Season 7. As i've stated earlier GPS isn't critical for nuclear weapons. We've built our delivery systems with sanctions in mind.

@Android

In a case of IndoPak war, India is not going to be able to destroy Chinese Sats even if Pakistan destroys Indian Sats, simply because the attack on the Indian assets was carried out by Pakistan not China.

India would have to engage in a two front war for China will take it as a legit Casus Belli. A war India will walk out of much worse off.

 

[amitkriit]

You're late to the argument. You missed it all. Your fellow-stooge Gessler here asserted the contrary. His line of argument was that if Pakistan used an atomic device on India, China would disallow Pakistan access to its satellite infrastructure and save India from further obliteration. Lol. Scroll up. It's amusing to say the least.

China won't have to do anything. India's Nuclear Doctrine of "punitive retaliation should deterrence fail" will come into play once there is a nuclear strike against us.

We didn't wanna see another episode of Lungi Dance Season 7. As i've stated earlier GPS isn't critical for nuclear weapons. We've built our delivery systems with sanctions in mind.

@Android

In a case of IndoPak war, India is not going to be able to destroy Chinese Sats even if Pakistan destroys Indian Sats, simply because the attack on the Indian assets was carried out by Pakistan not China.

India would have to engage in a two front war for China will take it as a legit Casus Belli. A war India will walk out of much worse off.

India did not think much when she destroyed western Ships in Pakistani waters during 1971 war. Hence I guess your argument is invalid.

 

[Mitro]

US lost trillions of dollar fighting taliban and are broke and now india think of destroying pakistan with their small economy with they cannot afford 20 billion dollar rafale .this is nothing then good bollywood masala movie script with sunny deol .
if god forbid war do happen between them who is going to lose the most quess what its india because pakistan does not have any thing more to lose.
war will unite pakistani they will forget their differences and fight common enemy INDIA

 

[TheFlyingPretzel]

Your post actually substantiates what he was saying and contradicts what your fellow countrymen are saying here, LOL.

So, as per your admission, Chinese are benefiting by trade with India, and as this figure is all set to touch approx. $100bn by 2015, Chinese will be stupid to harm the economic relations with India.

At least one of you has the brains to understand what I'm trying to say. Thank you! But read the first line of what I said

It's not just investment, it is the strategic importance of that investment.

Although China benefits from trade with India, China does not have a significant amount of investment or stake within India. $75 Billion in trade pales in comparison to the trade potential of the Gwadar port.

http://www.qurtuba.edu.pk/jms/default_files/JMS/1_1/6_jehanzeb.pdf

Gwadar- A Suez to Pakistan - News

Development of Gwadar Port - Pakistan State Times

And as I also pointed out Chinese investment within India is minimal at best.

But China’s investment in India was a meager $135 million from April 2000 to August 2012

As it so turns out then, Pakistan is a hot-bed for Chinese growth but India not so much.

 

[amitkriit]

US lost trillions of dollar fighting taliban and are broke and now india think of destroying pakistan with their small economy with they cannot afford 20 billion dollar rafale .this is nothing then good bollywood masala movie script with sunny deol .
if god forbid war do happen between them who is going to lose the most quess what its india because pakistan does not have any thing more to lose.
war will pakistani to forget their differences and fight common enemy INDIA

US mainland did not suffer any major terrorist attacks after 9/11. Afghanistan lost hundreds of thousands of men, while US lost trillions of dollars (off course money matters more than Human life). US hunted down Bin Laden and all other conspirators of 9/11 and other attacks against US interests. US drones fly over foreign territories killing foreign nationals (not Americans), so what? US is still a developed nation, Afghanistan and Pakistan haven't changed much either.

Sure it was completely a America's defeat and you aren't off-topic at all. Also, unlike Pakistan, Indians will have serious difference of opinion over almost EVERYTHING during a war. How did I fail to take this factor into consideration? My bad.

 

[Gessler]

Well, it's my fault for not being comprehensive enough but I assumed you were sensible enough to couple the financial investments with the strategic significance the cooperation has for achieving China's String of Pearls ambition. It's not just investment, it is the strategic importance of that investment.

Couple that with Sino-Pak cooperation in the defence industry, and India's disputed northern border it becomes increasingly significant that the Chinese are inclined towards protecting their interests in Pakistan than they are in India.

Also, quit your political point-scoring and get your facts straight.



I understand that you and your fellow Indian brethren here like to think you have a leverage over Pakistan in everything, but I don't have a problem upsetting you by pointing out the contrary.

Also the trade between India and China is heavily lopsided. In effect China is just selling India goods to the benefit of its own economy.

India has lodged frequent protests with China over the widening trade-deficit and out of pity China has recently decided, on paper, to entertain Indian requests.

More Chinese investments in India soon | India China Economic and Cultural Council






Lol. Quit trolling and improve your argument.

Bwahahaha....harping over trade deficit, go and look at your own trade deficit with China, it is much worse.

Our deficit will be slowly bridged as we improve exports and reduce imports, we are confident of doing that
with the new government and a massive consumer market of our own.

@Gessler

Pakistan is going to lose a conventional war against India in a 'few hours' or 'days' according to who?

How long do you expect to last, without resorting to WMD?

Cannot afford to match India militarily : Pak defence minister

“The capacity of India and Pakistan to fight was for 20 to 22 days. Now India has inducted a lot of armaments, may be they can last for 45 days, we will not be able to do so,” Mr. Mukhtar said in aninterview to BBC Urdu.

 

[TheFlyingPretzel]

Bwahahaha....harping over trade deficit, go and look at your own trade deficit with China, it is much worse.

Our deficit will be slowly bridged as we improve exports and reduce imports, we are confident of doing that
with the new government and a massive consumer market of our own.

Pakistan's trade deficit with China: $4.5 Billion (circa 2013)

Trade deficit with China up 53pc - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

India's trade deficit with China: $31.4 Billion (circa 2014)

India's trade deficit with China mounts to $ 31.42 bn - Economic Times

Blinded by your hatred for Pakistan and your desperation to counter everything I say irrespective of the academic weight attached to it, I am officially declaring you as being beyond help.

China won't have to do anything. India's Nuclear Doctrine of "punitive retaliation should deterrence fail" will come into play once there is a nuclear strike against us.
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You go tell him that. I'm very much aware of it.

Take note: @Gessler

 

[Gessler]

Pakistan's trade deficit with China: $4.5 Billion (circa 2013)

Trade deficit with China up 53pc - Newspaper - DAWN.COM

India's trade deficit with China: $31.4 Billion (circa 2014)

India's trade deficit with China mounts to $ 31.42 bn - Economic Times

Blinded by your hatred for Pakistan and your desperation to counter everything I say irrespective of the academic weight attached to it, I am officially declaring you as being beyond help.

(I'm not quoting latest figures)

India-China trade 2012 : $ 66 billion

Pakistan-China trade in 2012 : $ 12 billion

It's not about how much trade deficit you have, it's about how much deficit you have as a percentage of
your total trade. Armed with this info, go check out the figures again. Tell me if you don't blow out a fuse.

You go tell him that. I'm very much aware of it.

Take note: @Gessler

You aren't aware of sh!t.

 

[danger007]

This vehicle is useless against Pakistan as many kids are implying here. Pakistani military bandwith, Satcom and now Navigation are all from Chinese space assets.

In order to supress Pakistan's space based warfare aid capabilities, India would have to knock out multiple 'Chinese' Space assets which will be a declaration of war against PLA. So dream on!

This doesn't apply to India. Pakistan can acquire SKV from China if we really needed to. Knocking out Indian sats is not going to change the war dynamics as it wouldn't draw any other nation to the fight.

Peace.

Sir .... on what basis You are thinking China will provide everything it got??? There are no permanent friends here.. they are not fools to provide highly sensitive technology for the sake of Pakistan. .. Even if Pak acquired covertly.. and used against us... but the impact will be massive against Pak ... West will be panicked enough to take counter measures... and India can access Israel like we take during kargil. . but I don't know what kinda space capabilities does Pak got....

 

[Gessler]

You can't even think what we can do as many Pakistani who have worked in high tech big posts are willing to work here if given opportunity, they were even ready to put their own money to start the project, its our system corrupt system which don't let them do that.

SUPARCO can launch SLV in a year if funds are properly issued, they can do much more than that, as PAF and they are now working on something too, but at the end of the day money is the core ingredient.

Blah blah blah...an Indian is the CEO of Microsoft doesn't mean India can build a Microsoft-equivalent of it's own
right now. Nor can we do anything that DARPA does just because it is led by an Indian.

You need to calm down and think carefully about what I said - anyone can do anything provided they have what it takes
to do that, but the problem is, getting to have what it takes is not easy, it is the result of decades, even centuries of hard work
by a country toward nation-building.

Pakistan hasn't really concentrated that much on nation-building since your inception, so for Pak, becoming a great
nation is (much) easier said than done.

 

[TheFlyingPretzel]

(I'm not quoting latest figures)

India-China trade 2012 : $ 66 billion

Pakistan-China trade in 2012 : $ 12 billion

It's not about how much trade deficit you have, it's about how much deficit you have as a percentage of
your total trade. Armed with this info, go check out the figures again. Tell me if you don't blow out a fuse.

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Are you on crack? It is not about the total percentage, heck it's not even about the trade-deficit. It's about your argument that China would come to India's aid in the case of a limited nuclear strike by Pakistan. You are as clueless as a bag of kittens. Buzz off.