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NEW DELHI--India and China's largest oil companies have agreed to jointly explore for oil and gas worldwide, in an attempt to put aside long-standing rivalry and better use their combined financial muscle and expertise to secure energy supplies for their fast-growing economies.

While the two energy-deficient countries already work together in several international oil projects, they also have a long history of bad relations, and of proposing alliances to jointly buy foreign energy assets and crude-oil to reduce costs which mostly have come to nothing.

Under an initial pact signed Monday between state-run India's Oil & Natural Gas Corp. (500312.BY) and China National Petroleum Corp., the two will jointly explore assets in other countries, cementing existing partnerships in Myanmar, Syria and Sudan.

"We think it is better to cooperate than compete," Dinesh Sarraf, managing director of ONGC Videsh Ltd., ONGC's overseas investment arm, told Dow Jones Newswires.

ONGC Chairman Sudhir Vasudeva last month said the explorer wants to grow through partnerships and will secure alliances for new resource types and areas like shale gas and deepwater exploration.

China has been more successful than India in getting oil and gas equity stakes across the globe, often providing large loans and funding for infrastructure projects in developing nations to tie up deals signed by its four state-owned energy giants, the largest of which is CNPC and its listed unit, PetroChina Co (PTR).

Tensions between India and China have been troubled by a long-simmering border dispute in the Himalayas, India's hosting of Tibet's spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, and Chinese support for Pakistan. Relations took a turn for the worst last year due to a sovereignty row in the South China Sea, much of which is claimed by Beijing.

ONGC, which had been exploring Block 128 offshore Vietnam, was sharply criticized by China last year for violating its sovereignty--a charge vehemently rejected by Hanoi. Last month, India's junior oil minister, R.P.N. Singh, said the company will return the block to Vietnam.

Whether that decision was significant in the agreement on a new pact is unclear.

Back in January 2006, India's oil ministry and China's economic planning agency, the National Reform and Development Commission, signed an initial pact for bilateral oil cooperation, including possible joint crude purchases.

But five years later, Mr. Singh conceded that progress had been slow as "there has been no sharing of information on crude purchases by the oil companies of the two sides."

India hasn't been very open to Chinese companies investing in either its energy or telecommunications sectors, citing security concerns, although Chinese power generation equipment companies have been successful in the Indian market.

Among projects that ONGC Videsh is working on with CNPC is a pipeline to transport Myanmar gas from the Bay of Bengal across the country into southwestern China, which is due for completion next year.

The two also work together in Syria, where they jointly hold stakes in 36 producing fields, as well as in Sudan, although oil output there has largely halted due to military clashes between North and South Sudan.


Both CNPC and ONGC are among companies that have expressed interest in building an oil pipeline from South Sudan to Kenya's East African coast, to bypass the traditional export route through the north.

Hong Kong-based Mirae Asset analyst Nipun Sharma said the latest agreement seems to be merely a renewal of an existing exploration pact.

"The previous pact only resulted in a handful of projects, including one in Sudan. This time around, if the two nations are able to better align their economic and political interests, we could see more joint exploration projects ahead.

"This would be definite positive for ONGC, which needs to accelerate its internationalization program in order to increase production and reduce its exposure to domestic oil pricing risks."

Other than with China, Indian exploration companies have been seeking partnerships with overseas oil and gas majors to gain access to technology that will help them increase output and widen their geographical footprint.

ONGC signed an initial agreement with ConocoPhillips (COP) in March to look for opportunities for jointly exploring and developing shale-gas reserves in India and North America and deepwater blocks along India's east coast.

Simon Hall in Beijing contributed to this article.
Write to Rakesh Sharma at rakesh.sharma@dowjones.com

UPDATE: India, China Agree to Jointly Explore Energy Assets Overseas - WSJ.com
 
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What?
Aryan_B gonna have heart attack, cos China russia pak iran Dream will be off !! :what:
Btw Its a good move by companies which can share expertise of both nations :tup:
 
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China is taking over south china sea, no one is stopping them, Obama seems gutless and can't confront them, the only hope for countries in that region specially the philippines Mit Romney gets elected and stops the Chinese exapnsion.
 
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ONGC, CNPC to jointly bid for assets


New Delhi: India’s Oil and Natural Gas Corp. Ltd (ONGC) and China National Petroleum Corp. (CNPC) inked an agreement in New Delhi on Monday to jointly bid for energy assets overseas in a move that could have a significant impact on the global race for oil and gas blocks.


The memorandum of understanding also involves cooperation in so-called upstream, midstream and downstream opportunities. Upstream activities refer to exploration and production from hydrocarbon assets; midstream to transportation pipelines and the liquified natural gas business; and downstream refers to refining, marketing and distribution of petroleum products. The agreement was signed between Sudhir Vasudeva, chairman and managing director, ONGC, and Jiang Jiemen, chairman, CNPC.
The deal could also see CNPC participating in efforts to develop and exploit ONGC’s domestic assets.


The primary purpose of the agreement, however, seems to be to ensure that bidding for global energy assets doesn’t get out of hand as it has in the past.

“We should collaborate and bid together,” said D.K. Sarraf, managing director, ONGC Videsh Ltd (OVL). “There is no point in raising prices. A memorandum of understanding was signed.” He clarified that neither partner has an immediate property in mind for which they can bid together.

To be sure, the two firms did have an earlier arrangement, but that was limited to hydrocarbon exploration and production, and didn’t result in much cooperation or coordinated bidding.

“This (the new agreement) is for examining possibilities of mutual interest in upstream, downstream and all related areas,” Vasudeva told Reuters.

With India importing more than 80% of its energy needs, state-owned firms have been scouting overseas for securing assets and have invested Rs. 64,832.35 crore in the effort. This push has pitted the country against China in a race for the world’s resources. This competition for resources has in turn raised prices for the assets of both Indian and Chinese firms.

While OVL, the overseas arm of ONGC, and CNPC had earlier collaborated in Sudan and have worked together on projects in Syria and Myanmar, an institutional arrangement will bring the two rivals together and will have a global impact. OVL invested $2.5 billion in petroleum exploration and production in undivided Sudan as part of Greater Nile Petroleum Operating Co., in which it owns a 25% stake. Its partners are CNPC (40%), Petronas Carigali Overseas Sdn Bhd (30%) and Sudapet Co. Ltd (5%).

“We have to build on this association,” an ONGC executive said, speaking on condition of anonymity. “Apart from jointly scoping overseas assets, the Chinese are also interested in investing in our domestic assets. They have asked us to show them what we have. It is now dependent on the security establishment how to take this forward.”

The development comes at a time when the two countries have been discussing ways to double bilateral trade to $100 billion by 2015 and to plug a yawning trade gap in China’s favour.

“Securing energy supply continues to be a key strategic objective for China and India, both of whom continue to generate growth, and are concerned with the high energy prices,” said Gokul Chaudhri, a partner at audit and consulting firm BMR Advisors Pvt. Ltd. “This requires both nations to undertake geopolitical risks in frontier areas like Africa and Myanmar, with significant financial outlays. In the past also, the two countries have sought to collaborate rather than compete in view of their mutual need for overseas acreages and energy security.”

“This renewed effort, in the backdrop of improved economic ties, should yield long-term benefit to not just India and China, but also to the nations in which such joint energy projects are developed,” he added.

China and India will be the world’s largest and third largest economies and energy consumers by 2030, respectively, jointly accounting for about 35% of the global population, gross domestic product and energy demand, according to the BP Energy Outlook 2030.

A strategic affairs specialist said the move will also ensure India maintained its relationship with China.

“This is in a way (about) India trying to keep equidistance between China and the US. It wants to maintain equidistance between the two,” said R.N. Das, a senior analyst with the Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses. “India already has an agreement with China in energy cooperation and this has worked in the case of Sudan.”

According to India’s oil ministry, the country’s energy demand is expected to more than double by 2035, from less than 700 million tonnes of oil equivalents today to around 1,500 million tonnes.

OVL is the only company among Indian state-owned firms with producing assets overseas. It has a presence in 15 countries through participation in 33 projects and has proven balance of oil and gas reserves of 202.908 million tonnes. But while its producing properties in Sudan have been affected by South Sudan’s decision to cap wells, the ones in Sakhalin and Syria are in decline.


ONGC, CNPC to jointly bid for assets - Home - livemint.com
 
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Ruskies and yanks working together to fix afganistan
India china working together for energy
Many 'scholars' here scratching their heads...
 
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Great initiatives. This way they can compete with other oil giants in acquisitions of oil fields. Working together to meet economic and political requirements act as confidence building measures. Such ties also result in rapid development of infrastructure required, sharing of know-how helps in domestic scenarios. Most importantly it ease off facing another competitor and relieves with a partner for mutual benefits.
 
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in this deal india can only gain and china does not have much to gain.
china have locked up resource deals all over the world through win-win scenarios with other nations.
we now have the drilling technology, the cash and the diplomatic skills to win these resource deals.
india is just coming for a piggy back ride with china.

i dont see a benefit to china in this, we are just giving india a free ride.
we have huge influence with our massive consumer market and our $3 trillion reserves.

in competition for resources, china is way ahead, india cannot compete with china.

i say this is a bad move, we should not be sharing resources(energy and raw materials) with anyone.
 
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I can just picture it. Troll_B wetting himself.
 
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in this deal india can only gain and china does not have much to gain.
china have locked up resource deals all over the world through win-win scenarios with other nations.
we now have the drilling technology, the cash and the diplomatic skills to win these resource deals.
india is just coming for a piggy back ride with china.

i dont see a benefit to china in this, we are just giving india a free ride.
we have huge influence with our massive consumer market and our $3 trillion reserves.

in competition for resources, china is way ahead, india cannot compete with china.

i say this is a bad move, we should not be sharing resources(energy and raw materials) with anyone.

:lol: Don't think CPC cares about the views of random "chinese netizens".
 
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in this deal india can only gain and china does not have much to gain.
china have locked up resource deals all over the world through win-win scenarios with other nations.
we now have the drilling technology, the cash and the diplomatic skills to win these resource deals.
india is just coming for a piggy back ride with china.

i dont see a benefit to china in this, we are just giving india a free ride.
we have huge influence with our massive consumer market and our $3 trillion reserves.

in competition for resources, china is way ahead, india cannot compete with china.

i say this is a bad move, we should not be sharing resources(energy and raw materials) with anyone.

Agreed! The only benefit that I can think of is to utilise india's massive and cheap cyber trolls cheerleading us during our agreement signing ceremonies. That will be a grandeur that no bollywood movies can match! Other than that, I dont not see much of india's contribution in the joint exploration ventures.
 
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Agreed! The only benefit that I can think of is to utilise india's massive and cheap cyber trolls cheerleading us during our agreement signing ceremonies. That will be a grandeur that no bollywood movies can match! Other than that, I dont not see much of india's contribution in the joint exploration ventures.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

I smell some A**** burning.......:flame::flame::flame:
 
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