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India can help US to keep an eye on Pakistan: Nikki Haley

Nah this was in RSS books where they planing chadi army with hate as weapon.
India can't coup up with US that's why your army doesn't want to go to Afg and instead they wanna do the same game what they did in 71.
Wat we learn and their is saying in urdu "bagal mein churi mu mein ram ram".

Why would RSS in its book praise Pakistan Army ?

If you are saying that India or US is planning another 71 then you could be right.

BTW today is Diwali . Best Wishes to you and Ram Ram :-)
 
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cheap slaves.... ???
you cant even imagine what their salaries are!
Sundar Pichai/Salary

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$199 million


Google's CEO got a massive raise last year. Google's CEO Sundar Pichai had a good 2016. According to a new company filing posted Friday, Pichai's compensation last year was worth over $199 million. (Most of it was stock, not salary.)Apr 28, 2017
Google CEO Sundar Pichai salary - Business Insider
www.businessinsider.com/google-ceo-sundar-pichai-salary-2017-4

And google to find out what ranks the Mittals and Hindujas hold in the list of richest in the UK.

So much for being cheap hindu slaves!

when slavery was legal there were many dark skinned men who were paid good money to serve their master! make one black man rich and control million slaves your white master is smart!!

but hey i dont blame you for having such slave mentality its in hindu DNA you ancestors been serving tea and cleaning shit first of Muslims rulers than they served their favorite white skinned British! i am sure few of them were given land and money for their good service same way google is paying sundar!
 
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when slavery was legal there were many dark skinned men who were paid good money to serve their master! make one black man rich and control million slaves your white master is smart!!

but hey i dont blame you for having such slave mentality its in hindu DNA you ancestors been serving tea and cleaning shit first of Muslims rulers than they served their favorite white skinned British! i am sure few of them were given land and money for their good service same way google is paying sundar!
USD 199 million is the salary paid in a year to half of the Pakistan's half a million Army which one single dark skinned hindu slave earns alone as the CEO of his so called white masters. So every time you google or use MS office or drink Pepsi, just remember to thank a hindu for making it possible for you.

Just to let you know how much $199 million is in Pakistani Rupees..... hold your breath its a whopping 2,100 crore Pakistani rupees that a dark skinned hindu slave earned in just one year.

By the way, has your white and yellow masters released their aids (khairat) to keep you alive?
 
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USD 199 million is the salary paid in a year to half of the Pakistan's half a million Army which one single dark skinned hindu slave earns alone as the CEO of his so called white masters. So every time you google or use MS office or drink Pepsi, just remember to thank a hindu for making it possible for you.

Just to let you know how much $199 million is in Pakistani Rupees..... hold your breath its a whopping 2,100 crore Pakistani rupees that a dark skinned hindu slave earned in just one year.

By the way, has your white and yellow masters released their aids (khairat) to keep you alive?
well make monkey wear golden crown will he become king of the jungle?
 
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You highlighted this part, it seems she's still pretty much in touch with her Indian side, yes I know about her history. The whole "India can watch over Pakistan" is from her.
She is talking in an Indian forum. So, that's just a sugar coating line. Indian americans have been in many top spots, from what I see only people who are not Indian origin were instrumental when it comes to decision making process. Such as nuclear deal, or weapons sale.

All others are just words and no action just like this. And what does a UN ambassador do any good, she is not even in a cabinet position, neither she cannot pass her own comments.

No one said she's not American, but her soft spot for the country her roots come does seem to be effect how she views Pakistan. As for forgetting veto power, what's she going to say next, the earth is round? Everyone knows that India has zero chance of sitting on the UNSC with a veto.
Never say never.
 
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Actually she is targetting both india and pakistan as i see it. At one end she is saying us doesnt trust pakistan. At other end she is saying india is their new puppet.
 
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She is certainly more sane than Bobby Jindal who once even claimed to partake in an exorcism to appeal to his crazy votebank.
 
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Not sure if the garbage she said is down to the fact she is of Indian ethnicity and happens to harbour a grudge against Pakistan or she was speaking at an US India Friendship Council event, probably both.

Of all the demands Pakistan have on its "to-do" list for America, the removal of Indian trolls who have managed to creep in the American governmental structure.
 
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Even our leaders blew many such oppertunities.

But if you still repent the missesd oppertunity then why not give it another shot.

China is now 5 times bigger than India and is your all weather friend.

Recreate the same scenario, what is stopping you :D

I am not talking about your leaders. Clearly, you didn't get the gist of my posts. Again, you are on the different page [metaphor].

Only losers talk about missed opportunities. While one can day dream anything and at any time but Pakistan could only dream about it after officially handing over Sakshgam Valley to China or else it had had to fight China first. So after having secured that front by surrendering a part of Kashmiri land, they began to strategise their dream and thereby started making plans of Operation Gibraltar and Operation Grand Slam. Rest is history.

I am not gonna entertain to the delusion and macho talk which serves no benefit to the already pointless debate you just started just for the sake of it.

Pakistan is known to make dream reality sometimes such as making USSR break apart thus dethroned USSR from superpower along with Indian dream down to the drain.

But that is not on the debate here. India was vulnerable from the war lost to China. That was opportunity for Pakistan failed to capitalize due to cunning persuasion by Uncle Sam. India has been lucky more than one occasion and many occasions have to do with miscalculation of Pakistan army given the fact that Pakistan army should have been smarter to utilize the strategy since Pakistan has not much manpower compared to Indian army hence the strategy is all Pakistan army has which Pakistan army failed repeatedly.

USA and Israel are not official enemies of Pakistan but India is. Whether India is using USA and Israel against Pakistan or India is letting herself used by USA & Israel against Pakistan is one and the same thing. Just remember not long ago India was anti USA and anti Israel and yet Pakistan was her enemy.

Leverage is enemy and friend depending on the situation. In this case, both Israel and USA don't like it that both Pakistan and India have Nuclear program. So their only hope is pinned on India at this moment to trigger the Nuclear war which will self-destruct India along with Pakistan since the consequence of Nuclear war is too great to ignore - billion people will die as the result.


We know USA. They are the same guys who hired you against Russians in Afghanistan and then hired you against Talibans in Afghanistan and then they keep droning your territory insulting your sovereignty every now and then and on top of it, after using and abusing you guys for decades, they are refusing to pay for your services.
I can understand from where this pain is coming.

Totally incorrect in this post.

USA/Pakistan trained Afghan Mujahideen [that is what USA called] to resist USSR invasion in Afghanistan which has succeeded thus dethroned USSR from superpower along with India's dream down the drain.

Then, the very same Afghan Mujahideen is now Afghan Taliban that is resisting USA invasion in Afghanistan for many years, and to this day failed miserably. And now peace treaty is being charted on the table to make room for clean exit from USA army.

The Taliban Pakistan is fighting against in Pakistan is called TTP aka Tehreek Taliban Pakistan which is totally different outfit as confessed by Ajit Doval, in-charge of India NSA, to fund and train TTP with the support of Afghan intel to promote terrorism that is responsible for killing more than 100,000 including children and women.

The pain? Despite every efforts from Indian intel to destabilize Pakistan has been disaster. Even their pinned hope on USSR was blaze apart by Pakistan through its collaboration with USA on Afghan Mujahideen in late 80s. And the very same USSR is now Russia enjoy the best diplomatic relationship with Pakistan thanks to China. Not to mention, CPEC is now reality as it has been operational for quite sometimes now whereas Chabahar port is nothing but fantasy.

It is fine with personal banter but that was not on the topic which you guys can be easily taken for ride for being emotional tool. Again, talking about the history during the missed opportunity as presented which was failed to seize has nothing to do with what we are debating. Either way, you guys got burned. :D
 
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But that is not on the debate here. India was vulnerable from the war lost to China. That was opportunity for Pakistan failed to capitalize due to cunning persuasion by Uncle Sam. India has been lucky more than one occasion and many occasions have to do with miscalculation of Pakistan army given the fact that Pakistan army should have been smarter to utilize the strategy since Pakistan has not much manpower compared to Indian army hence the strategy is all Pakistan army has which Pakistan army failed repeatedly.
Agree.
Pakistan Army should be more smart.
Pakistan Army should have better strategy.
Pakistan Army should have more manpower, if your country can afford.
Until then, as admitted by yourself, Pakistan Army will keep failing repeatedly against their bigger and smarter Indian counterparts.

Leverage is enemy and friend depending on the situation. In this case, both Israel and USA don't like it that both Pakistan and India have Nuclear program. So their only hope is pinned on India at this moment to trigger the Nuclear war which will self-destruct India along with Pakistan since the consequence of Nuclear war is too great to ignore - billion people will die as the result.
USA, Israel and most nations in the world are not comfortable with Pakistan's nuclear weapons as they fear it may fall into terrorists or a rogue regime.
If they want a nuclear holocaust in the subcontinent then they should rather pin their hope on Pakistan as its Pakistan which is developing smaller nuclear weapons for battles whereas for India nukes are a strategic deterrent. India has never threatened anyone with nukes whereas Pakistan threatens on a weekly basis to use its nukes.
By the way India is leveraging USA and Israel for her own strategic benefits.

Totally incorrect in this post.

USA/Pakistan trained Afghan Mujahideen [that is what USA called] to resist USSR invasion in Afghanistan which has succeeded thus dethroned USSR from superpower along with India's dream down the drain.

Then, the very same Afghan Mujahideen is now Afghan Taliban that is resisting USA invasion in Afghanistan for many years, and to this day failed miserably. And now peace treaty is being charted on the table to make room for clean exit from USA army.

The Taliban Pakistan is fighting against in Pakistan is called TTP aka Tehreek Taliban Pakistan which is totally different outfit as confessed by Ajit Doval, in-charge of India NSA, to fund and train TTP with the support of Afghan intel to promote terrorism that is responsible for killing more than 100,000 including children and women.

The pain? Despite every efforts from Indian intel to destabilize Pakistan has been disaster. Even their pinned hope on USSR was blaze apart by Pakistan through its collaboration with USA on Afghan Mujahideen in late 80s. And the very same USSR is now Russia enjoy the best diplomatic relationship with Pakistan thanks to China. Not to mention, CPEC is now reality as it has been operational for quite sometimes now whereas Chabahar port is nothing but fantasy.

It is fine with personal banter but that was not on the topic which you guys can be easily taken for ride for being emotional tool. Again, talking about the history during the missed opportunity as presented which was failed to seize has nothing to do with what we are debating. Either way, you guys got burned. :D
USA used Pakistan's land, resources and self respect to further her own interest. Pakistan had no enmity with USSR but played into American hands in super power rivalry. The history does not talk of USSR vs Pakistan in Afghanistan. Same thing happened a few years later when USA used your land, resources and self respect against Talibans. Afghan Talibans were not your enemy but you played in the hands of Americans to destroy Talibans and your own economy and sovereignty.

As far as India is concerned, the USSR was our biggest defense supplier and strategic partner and it continues to be so. However, in the changed world order, we developed similar rapport with USA and Israel and now all these nations are fulfilling our defense supplies. We have ensured that USA cut off your defense supplies and Russia does not start supplying you in a big way. So today, Pakistan has become totally dependent on one nation for its defense supplies that is China. As your country is prone to compromise with sovereignty, we are waiting for the day Gwadar will become another Hambantota. :D
 
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Like US satellite tech is decades behind Indian tech?

WASHINGTON: India can help the US keep an eye on Pakistan as President Donald Trump has "taken tougher approach to Islamabad harbouring terrorists", US ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley has said.

Noting that Trump recently announced a new strategy for combating terrorism in Afghanistan and South Asia, Haley said one of the pillars of that strategy is the development of America's strategic partnership with India.

"America's overriding interest in Afghanistan and throughout South Asia are to eliminate terrorist safe havens that threaten us. And to keep nuclear weapons out of the hands of terrorists, we will use all the elements of our national power economic diplomatic and military to pursue these goals," she said.

Critically we will look to our economic and security partnerships with India, she added.

In her address to an event organised by US India Friendship Council, Haley said Trump has taken a "tougher approach to Pakistan harboring terrorists."

"Pakistan has been a partner to the US at times. We value and respect that. But, we cannot tolerate this government or any other government giving safe haven to terrorists who target Americans. This new approach will require understanding and restraint from both Pakistan and India," she said.

The US, she said, is looking at India to help US more in Afghanistan particularly in economic and development assistance.

India has already made important contributions to the stability of Afghanistan.

"We are really going to need India's help in Afghanistan. They are the good neighbours and partner that we have in the region," she said.

"So, having them help not only with infrastructure and the aide that they can give towards rebuilding Afghanistan, (They can) also help us to keep an eye on Pakistan," Haley said.

"That is going to be really important in making sure that we hold them accountable, because we are at a point where we kind of laid the ground work that we need to see better partnership from Pakistan. We can't continue to see them harboring the terrorists. We have to see something change. India is going to witnessing that. India is going to help us with that," Haley said in response to a question.

The Trump administration is hoping to expand India's contribution in Afghanistan through a deep partnership, she said.

The partnership between India and America is strong and getting stronger because it is rooted in a shared belief in hard work education family and achievement, she said.

"President Trump said when he hosted Prime Minister Modi on his visit to the US in June that, India has a true friend in the US and it is a friendship based on shared values," Haley said.

"Working at the UN really brings home how important it is for countries to share our commitment to democracy. Countries that honour and respect a voice of their people don't threaten peace and security. But, take a look at the countries that are causing most of the trouble in the world. And you will see countries that don't respect the will of their own people," she said.

For instance, Haley said, Trump has just announced a new tougher approach to ensuring that Iran never gets a nuclear weapon.

"It would be catastrophic for the safety of Americans and the world if Iran became a nuclear power. But India is a nuclear power and nobody gives it a second thought. Why," she asked.

"Because India is a democracy that threatens no one," she said.

The US and India have both felt the pain of terrorism and we share the commitment of defeating terrorists and the hateful ideology that motivates them, Haley said.

Responding to a question, Haley said India is a responsible nuclear power



"We want to show the world that yes there are countries that have nuclear weapon, but they are not supposed to act like North Korea. They are not supposed to manage themselves like Iran," she said.



Haley also said there was a plan for her to travel to India by the end of this year, she said responding to another question.


"It's amazing and special for me. I was fortunate to be there a few years ago, for the first time when I was two. And it was as magical as my parents say about it. So I look forward to going back to India," she added.:whistle:

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Agree.
Pakistan Army should be more smart.
Pakistan Army should have better strategy.
Pakistan Army should have more manpower, if your country can afford.
Until then, as admitted by yourself, Pakistan Army will keep failing repeatedly against their bigger and smarter Indian counterparts.

The benefits of making the mistakes is to provide the learning curve which is why Pakistan army has come the long way since, and has been professional. Because of the mistakes made in East Pakistan, Balochistan was prevented from becoming next Bangladesh thanks to the sanity and lessons learned from the past thus the political understanding was the solution key.

India is still new [in strategy] whereas Pakistan army is now prepared because of the lousy past.

Student who learn from the mistake can be better student in real life than those students who never made mistakes in their lives. :D

USA, Israel and most nations in the world are not comfortable with Pakistan's nuclear weapons as they fear it may fall into terrorists or a rogue regime.
If they want a nuclear holocaust in the subcontinent then they should rather pin their hope on Pakistan as its Pakistan which is developing smaller nuclear weapons for battles whereas for India nukes are a strategic deterrent. India has never threatened anyone with nukes whereas Pakistan threatens on a weekly basis to use its nukes.

Israel, USA and among other nations are not comfortable with both Pakistan and India as Nuclear nations. Same goes with Russia, China and many other nations. Any nation with the Nuclear program is always remain the pressing concern.

The more pressing issue is that Nuclear India is now ruling by mad man aka Modi. He and his political party loves anti-peace and they can't wait for the war that long ever since their agenda to isolate Pakistan economically failed hence the frustration in already resorting to proxy wars in form of terrorism failing miserably does put Modi in pressure to trigger the inevitable war given the background of Modi and his political party, not to mention the momentum India is in [anti-peace].



By the way India is leveraging USA and Israel for her own strategic benefits.

India is not leveraging USA and Israel. Any people with common sense will tell you that India is being used like puppet - a trigger to pull by Israel/USA to self-destruct India along with Pakistan. In Nuclear war, there is no winner. Except for USA and Israel.

USA used Pakistan's land, resources and self respect to further her own interest. Pakistan had no enmity with USSR but played into American hands in super power rivalry. The history does not talk of USSR vs Pakistan in Afghanistan. Same thing happened a few years later when USA used your land, resources and self respect against Talibans. Afghan Talibans were not your enemy but you played in the hands of Americans to destroy Talibans and your own economy and sovereignty.

Between 1950 to 1970, Pakistan benefited a lot from collaborating with USA which puts Pakistan on map for the considerable period of time. It was good decision back then, and still is.

As for USSR invasion in Afghanistan, USA and Pakistan made smart move supporting Afghan Taliban, former Afghan Mujahideen, which helped their cases stronger. After Afghanistan, Pakistan would have been next so their [USA-Pakistan] collaboration with Afghan Mujahideen prevented that fate thus sending the dream of India down the drain in the process. Not only that, Pakistan got the revenge for 1971 which Russia got involved in assisting India in 1971 for East Pakistan. And USA replaced USSR as the next superpower. Win-win for Pakistan and USA.

10-15 years later, a lot of things happened that has tested the diplomatic relationship between Pakistan and USA through thick and thin, and still survived to the point with the fine understanding that both need each other in the war against terrorism, and yet, both have their differences which they sort out through the diplomatic measure and undiplomatic wise.

It is true that Pakistan economic took huge fall but don't forget the positive. That war on terror has prepared Pakistan to be fluently competent combative against terrorism. Because of Pakistan collaboration with USA, Pakistan has developed game-changer technology such as drone which was handful in eradicating the terrorism that is responsible for more than 100,000 deaths including children and women.

And because Pakistan got involved for USA war, it helped Pakistan to prepare for the war against Indian-funded terrorism. Afghan Taliban may not be war for Pakistan but Indian-funded Terrorist-outfit aka TTP is the enemy of Pakistan that is responsible for killing more than 100,000 people including children and women.

Because of Pakistan collaboration with USA in war on terror, Pakistan has benefited from the experience to be prepared for any kind of war against terrorism more than ever including Indian-funded Terrorist-outfit aka TTP as confessed by Ajit Dova, in-charge of Indian NSA.

So, the experience came handy for Pakistan even at the expense of stability in economy. Economy comes and goes but the nation stays forever because of the strong defense. That is what matters at the end. Precisely why as soon as Indian-funded terrorism is eradicated on the massive portion, the economy then started to stabilize in the very short period of time.

As far as India is concerned, the USSR was our biggest defense supplier and strategic partner and it continues to be so. However, in the changed world order, we developed similar rapport with USA and Israel and now all these nations are fulfilling our defense supplies. We have ensured that USA cut off your defense supplies and Russia does not start supplying you in a big way. So today, Pakistan has become totally dependent on one nation for its defense supplies that is China. As your country is prone to compromise with sovereignty, we are waiting for the day Gwadar will become another Hambantota. :D

Despite that, India is still puppet for USA/Israel as i mentioned before in regards to self-destruction which is clear in day and night.

Whereas for Pakistan, USA/Israel didn't need India role to be decisive about Pakistan since long before India planned for economic isolation on Pakistan, Israel had long already started preparing economical isolation on Pakistan the day Pakistan was born.

So USA tactical has been pretty consistent with keeping Pakistan on edge through India and vice versa. Because of USA interference prevented General Ayub Khan from taking on India after the war lost to China in 1962 saved India on its vulnerable position.

Whereas Pakistan was new in political and economically warfare, so naturally the experience was much needed for Pakistan which does come handy for Pakistan now after all those years.

From the JF-Thunder to CPEC which are now reality as Port Qasim and Nuclear program of Pakistan does indicate that Pakistan's diplomatic relationship with Russia/China has gotten better, even with Iran now thus providing alternative option to replace Afghanistan for the access to Central Asia. Thanks to the Donald Trump, the choice was made clear for Iran in regards to the fictional project aka Chabahar port, and thanks to China, Pakistan and Russia are now on the strong position together as prophesied 1400 years ago that would weather the storm together thick and thin [WW3].

In 60s, Pakistan benefited with one of the strongest economical nation [USA] in the world that puts Pakistan on map in Asia for the time being, and even now Pakistan is benefiting from China that literally own USA and its dollars.

Even India money is going straight to Pakistan through China for being depending on China for the medical accessories, many other things including firework to celebrate for Diwali.

Come to think of it, Pakistan does know how to pick the winner in any time - day and night. :D
 
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Like US satellite tech is decades behind Indian tech?
I can't compare them with US tech. No data of them available on Public domain.

But it's waaayy better than some countries who couldn't manage to put an indigenous rocket into space.
Fortunately, our space agency is headed by Scientists and not some mudheads who is a graduate in economics or civil Engineering.
 
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