India approves $650m Boeing army chopper deal

[SQ8]

Lethal birds to come into our arsenal.


There is not custody battle. IA wants its aviation corps to take charge attack role of helis. Each one has their role to play. Nothing immature about IAF.

It is a custody battle, IAF thinks it has sole domain over all above 50ft in the air- the IA rightfully disagrees.
Choppers belong mostly to support the IA's CONOPS and it is they who should have direct control

 

[帅的一匹]

Why dogs have to pay for its bones? Especially in sky high price. I don't understand the logic behind this.

Either the master is inhuman or the dog is too stupid.

It is a custody battle, IAF thinks it has sole domain over all above 50ft in the air- the IA rightfully disagrees.
Choppers belong mostly to support the IA's CONOPS and it is they who should have direct control

Pathetic IAF struggles for control only few choppers....

 

[Lord Of Gondor]

Why dogs have to pay for its bones? Especially in sky high price. I don't understand the logic behind this.

Either the master is inhuman or the dog is too stupid.

Why Commie Bots are so butt hurt? Especially for just 50 Cents. I don't understand the logic behind this.
Either Mao was a ladyboy or the 50 Cent Army is butthurt for no reason.

 

[Acknowledge]

Lethal birds to come into our arsenal.


There is not custody battle. IA wants its aviation corps to take charge attack role of helis. Each one has their role to play. Nothing immature about IAF.

It is immature of IAF. They fight tooth and nail against any other service getting an aviation platform. Even getting IN to use planes on their own was a fight, IAF wanted to operate all of IN's aviation assets instead of letting them do it.

GoI needs to step in decisively and let AAC handle attack heli fleet.

 

[帅的一匹]

Why Commie Bots are so butt hurt? Especially for just 50 Cents. I don't understand the logic behind this.
Either Mao was a ladyboy or the 50 Cent Army is butthurt for no reason.

Do you think the price is acceptable?

With same price can go for 8 brand new Su35.

 

[ashok321]

US or any other nation that sells India has a habit of fleecing India for high tech products.

Poor India will always end up forking out or as they say popularly in London from where the phrase got started = Paying through the nose.

India cant make it down the road, if it does, others are already one up on India. This way India would always be catching high tech. They spend the least amount towards the R&D. There labs are pathetic.

 

[BABA AGHORI]

lol, this is not a big deal. Just 6 choppers only. LOL!

You can see them as 6 armed awacs that would be working in tandom with LCH.

one Apache + 4 or 5 LCH working as a team

 

[#hydra#]

It is a custody battle, IAF thinks it has sole domain over all above 50ft in the air- the IA rightfully disagrees.
Choppers belong mostly to support the IA's CONOPS and it is they who should have direct control

Tell us who is rightful to own attack helicopter,I think all atyack helicopters should be with army.

 

[navtrek]

India has been dragged into an arm race with China. Let's see who comes out as a winner.

lol just compare the two forces and you will just realize how much of a arms race that is

 

[MULUBJA]

110 million per apache?

Including loads of weapons, spares, maintenance contract and performance guarantee.

 

[Kal Muah]

Do you think the price is acceptable?

With same price can go for 8 brand new Su35.

LOL you really think INDIANS need to learn how to bargain from China?

 

[MULUBJA]

Like the emergency purchases of ammunition; 8000 spike anti-tank missiles, etc.

SO 8000 anti tank missile which are coming in coming in few years is a shopping spree? Than what is that which is not shopping spree according to you?

 

[Abingdonboy]

Or the usual pathetic IAF vs IA rotary custody battle- pretty immature of the IaF

To an extent this is true and instead of acting decisively the GoI/MoD has decided to placate both and give both sides their shiny toys- both will operate the Rudra, LCH and Apache in vast numbers.

650m for 6 choppers. Am i missing something here ?

110 million per apache?

This cost is NOT the unit cost, it includes the cost of setting up infrastructure, training and the weapons package. All future Apache orders by the Army will only come at the cost of the helicopter (unit cost).

Package cost/number of units has always been a flawed methodology and comes up with a misleading figure.

Not only these 6 choppers. India has been in weapon buying spree lately.

Not really just the current Govt is cutting out some of the red tape and acting more decisively in some ways, those used to the previous govt's sloth like pace may see this as a "buying spree" but in reality it is simply the system working for once. Another 10 years of this govt in office should address all of the so-called "gaps" and streamline the entire procurement system.

That said, there is no "arms race" both India and China have bigger issues to deal with and both spend under 2% of GDP on defence- which is how it should be. The Uplift of 100s of millions of people is more important.


As an aside, India buying Apaches does actually help its domestic industry, from 2018 all Apache fuselages will be made in India:

http://www.defenseworld.net/news/16..._Fuselage_Manufacturing_To_India#.WZbWBIpJnGE

 

[Super Falcon]

650m for 6 choppers. Am i missing something here ?

Yes it's way way too expensive infact no country ever bought them that expensive

 

[Abingdonboy]

Yes it's way way too expensive infact no country ever bought them that expensive

Do you have the details of the entire package being sold to the IA?