India Allows Imran Khan's Aircraft To Use Airspace For Lanka Trip

[Imran Khan]

It was requested and granted...

I don't understand what the fuss about... He is flying in civilian flight, why should India deny... I am happy that India didnt play mean in this aspect...

if it asked permession it has to fly like this one

 

[krash]

You forget about lakshadweep island I think

Like I said, 12 nautical miles from the coast. Don't think you realize how little that is.

Without ATC clearance no aircraft can enter in the IFR or VFR region

https://aim-india.aai.aero/eaip/PUB/2012-04-01/html/eAIP/EC-ENR-1.4-en-GB.html

No. Not at all. That link doesn't say anything of the sort either. It is in fact explicitly concerning sovereign Indian airspace as defined by the classes. Do you know what the classes stand for? It also clearly states that in 2 and half classes out of the 4 total you are not subject to ATC clearances. That is inside sovereign Indian airspace. Regardless, the "clearance" mentioned in the link is a specified flight path provided by the ATC to avoid collisions and maintain safety standards. Like I said, stop posting nonsense. An ATC can only direct the flight and only in order to maintain safety standards in international airspace.

International Airspace, by law, is governed by the same principles as maritime waters, i.e. no one can dictate anyone from anything in it.

PS: None of this applies to military aircraft.

Without ATC clearance you cant even change your altitude dude. What are you smoking ?

Any FOREIGN "NOT CLEARED" Object will be "Escorted" be it India or pakistan !

I don't say these things lightly but you are clearly illiterate on the matter and the discussion. An FIR does not connote airspace sovereignty. Sovereign airspace ends at 12 nautical miles from the coast as per international law. ATS is a civil service provided by designated locations to maintain safety of commercial and civil flights. An ATC can only exercise its services to the extent of maintaining safety. It cannot deny entry to anyone in international airspace. It is literally a traffic coordinator. The countries of the world have voluntarily agreed to adhere to these ATC clearances so as to maintain that safety for their own aircraft. Military aircraft do not care for these clearances exactly due to this reason. Like I said, we fly military aircraft and missiles in Mumbai's FIR every other day.

FIR /= Sovereign Airspace. In fact, there are sovereign airspaces of certain country's which are handled under another country's FIR.

DGCA's clerical error forced Pakistan to chase SpiceJet aircraft

The reason for the mistaken identity was a clerical error by an official of India's aviation regulator

www.business-standard.com

You seem to be ignorant of things that happened in your own airspace.

You seem to not be intelligent enough to realize that that Indian aircraft had entered sovereign Pakistani airspace......we, OTOH, are discussing international airspace falling under a country's FIR. That is the whole point of the debate.

Lol try to enter Mumbai IFR without request.

Do it every day. In fact, we conduct military maneuvers, military exercises, and even military tests smack in the middle of it. We conduct our missile tests almost exclusively in the Mumbai FIR.

Missile test there are NOTAM issued prior to test if you dont you become rouge

So you don't know what a NOTAM is either.....please stop presenting idiotic nonsense created out of thin air just to placate your insecurities.

A NOTAM is a warning issued to everyone to stay away from that area. India and Mumbai ATC watch quietly from a far while we conduct our business. No NOTAMs are issued for military flights.

You do realize it has to enter Indian waters from your route plan?

No it does not.

 

[xeuss]

Without ATC clearance you cant even change your altitude dude. What are you smoking ?
Any FOREIGN "NOT CLEARED" Object will be "Escorted" be it India or pakistan !

DGCA's clerical error forced Pakistan to chase SpiceJet aircraft

The reason for the mistaken identity was a clerical error by an official of India's aviation regulator

www.business-standard.com

You seem to be ignorant of things that happened in your own airspace.

There is a difference between FIR (Flight Information Region) and a country's airspace. FIRs are determined by ICAO while airspace jurisdiction is determined by the country's territorial border or subjacent waters.

 

[Imran Khan]

IF pak -2 asked permession it fly like this route

not like this route

 

[Caprxl]

Like I said, stop posting nonsense. An ATC can only direct the flight and only in order to maintain safety standards.

Boss I think this thing has gone far enough, they have been given enough proofs & countered with valid arguments. Is it not time to close this thread ? As it has been proved otherwise.

 

[crankthatskunk]

Still inside in Indian Air space

You are nuts. If Mumbai deals all the flights from Karachi Coast to the Middle East, how Pakistani airlines fly to ME!!

 

[N.Siddiqui]

Say that you don't want Lank to have good relation with India...

It is India who doesn't want to have good relations with any neighboring country, her idea is about coercion, highhandedness, control and suppression, tacit support of fringe separatist groups....than it is about anything called friendship.

All neighbors have experienced this Indian thingy...coercion, hegemony, control, duplicity and deception. So much so that now no Indian neighbor has any relations with India, it is mostly now transactional, or more about leveraging India...

 

[xyx007]

Say that you don't want Lank to have good relation with India...

Say that you don't want Lank to have good relation with India...

 

[Vanamali]

indian media = BIGGEST FAKE NEWS and PROPAGANDA factory in the world..... :

265 Indian fake news sites caught pushing anti-Pakistan propaganda

Researchers have discovered a network of 265 fake local news sites across 65 countries that are being used to disseminate anti-Pakistan coverage and serve Indian governmental interests.

thenextweb.com

Pro-Indian 'fake websites targeted decision makers in Europe' - BBC News

Fake sites and groups lobbying for India influenced decision makers in Europe, researchers say.

www.google.co.uk

Unfortunately for you and indiankind, there is NO CREDIBLE, GENUINE & IRREFUTABLE evidence back up your claims........




india's population is ACTUALLY more than 7× bigger than that of Pakistan..........

You mean to say IK said India has made great progress with respect to reduction of open defaction is wrong... You think he is also fake... Great

 

[Windjammer]

Imran Khan would be the last person to make this request to India.

 

[krash]

As cleared by multiple members, Indian airspace was not used. Thread closed.