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India a nation failing to emerge
By Meena Degala

The rhetoric that has surrounded India's general election, which will be held from April 7 until May 12, underlines how domestic political parties are trying to manipulate the electorate into accepting one of their contrasting nationalist models.

While the ruling Congress party presents a model based on the teachings of Mahatma Gandhi, the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) forwards the obsolete Akhand Bharat, or "Undivided India" concept.

When India won freedom from Britain in 1947, much of the population had no understanding of what it meant to be "Indian". Most Indians only understood regional, caste and linguistic identities. Since then, nationalism has been used by the elitists in political parties to advance their own interests.

The self-serving nationalist schemes are in contrast to the sustainable nationalism that can emerge as a byproduct of an empowered electorate and egalitarian society

The Congress model
The Congress model for India is based on Mahatma Gandhi's teaching. While Gandhi indeed did commendable work advocating non-violence as a resistance path, he had evolving opinions on important social reform issues. Gandhi had conflicting attitudes towards India's hereditary, vocation-based caste system and related "untouchability" customs that served to ostracize and segregate people.

In 1920, Gandhi asserted that every Hindu, "must follow the hereditary profession", and that "prohibition of intermarriage" between people of different castes was "necessary for a rapid evolution of the soul". Gandhi is said to have changed his view later.


The Congress Party's nationalist model is built on a deification of Gandhi, and it survives on caste politics while offering no solutions for eradicating this unhealthy custom. Caste identities are fostered solely for electoral gains. The survival of caste identities is very important for this party's electoral success.

Social reform leaders who campaign against caste have been systematically pushed aside by Congress in order to preserve the false image of a benevolent ruling dynasty.

The BJP model
The BJP's nationalist theme is built on a hijacking of the concepts of Hindutva and Akhand Bharat. While Akhand Bhara means "Undivided India", the term, "Hindutva" is not clearly defined. The BJP says it means Hindu cultural nationalism, but it has become associated with a complete ideology and culture that sets its followers apart.

Hindutva ideology elicits an intense emotional response against perceived attacks on Hinduism by Christians, Muslims or the West. Some of the actions associated with this ideology include deriding English as a decadent blotch on Indian culture, and attacking stores that sell Valentine's Day cards.

Many educated Hindus see Hindutva as a necessary evil to counter evangelical efforts to convert India's poor and untouchables to Christianity. India's lower castes have found no refuge in conversions, as an Indian Christian pastor once remarked, "for Indian Christians, caste is first, Christ is second and mere preaching won't do". Caste has become a cultural phenomenon and is practiced across religions.

The Undivided India concept refers to the Indian subcontinent as it existed before India was partitioned in 1947 and the independence of Bangladesh in 1971. However, the BJP has no desire to merge India with Pakistan and Bangladesh.

This term is most likely used to disseminate the idea that India was historically a united coherent entity and to help construct a Hindi identity. The fact remains that India, as it now exists, has never existed before in history, and the India of today more closely resembles the India defined by the British in 1947.

The BJP currently seeks a mandate on Hindu cultural nationalism, pledging that it will also streamline taxation, cut red tape and launch major infrastructure projects such as high-speed trains.

Sustainable nationalism: Equality and empowerment
Elitist nationalism projects rarely succeed. In India's current state, nationalist projects more often serve as a smokescreen for various injustices of the power elite. A sustainable democracy that seeks to live in its present and has a sense of cohesive nationalism needs an empowered electorate and an egalitarian society.

In India, there is caste discrimination, gender discrimination and class feudalism. Class feudalism runs across genders and castes. The bulk of India's poor is comprised of castes considered "untouchable" - 98% of "untouchable" or Dalit castes live in poverty.

Although outlawed, caste discrimination is rampant in rural India. Caste perpetuates poverty through denial of opportunity. In urban cities, special vegetarian caste-based Hindu apartments have been propping up in Mumbai, Chennai and Gujarat. Housing is being splintered along caste, religious and ethnic lines.

In 2009, when the United Nations Human Rights Council declared that discrimination based on caste was "human-rights abuse", India fought vehemently to stop a related resolution. India's urban elite argue that caste has already been abolished because government outlawed untouchability.

This ignores the fact that 75% of marriage advertisements explicitly mention caste - India's arranged marriage system has in recent years increasingly used advertising in newspapers and online. The country's leading marriage website, BharatMatrimony.com, lists caste as a mandatory field in its membership registration form.

Racism is considered a public health issue by sections of the international community and so should the practice of caste. Medieval caste practices cause psychological issues such as stress, anxiety and feelings of anger and rejection among members of lower castes. It also creates feelings of guilt or superiority among upper castes, and there are significant gaps in health outcomes between lower and upper caste groups.

It is imperative to recognize caste as a public health issue, and to maintain score cards on caste eradication similar to those for smoking, polio or malaria. To eliminate caste discrimination and hierarchy, caste identity and caste-based endogamy needs to be dismantled.

Similar to China's one-child policy, innovative policies should be tailored to local situations in each state and a change of semantics may be required. Large scale public health campaigns are required. These need to be supported by policies like:
  • Banning caste-based societies and caste-based marriage advertisement to stigmatize and delegitimize the practice of caste;
  • Incentivizing village priests and school teachers for caste elimination metrics. Encouraging gender and caste diversity in priesthood profession;
  • Inoculating children by incorporating caste reform thoughts into the curriculum and mandating logic as a high school course;
  • Incentivizing inter caste marriages between the lowest and upper caste groups. These marriages are subject to special stresses and societal strains.

    Policies like these need to be evaluated and implemented at a state level. The World Health Organization and UN human-rights advocates could be invited to partner with local state governments and evaluate policies and progress.

    A monolithic, centralized power structure prevails in India. A fair policy that is responsive to local needs will never evolve in the current structure.

    The electoral politics of every state and coalition interest need to be considered in order for any national policy to be formulated. Two-thirds of India's taxes are collected by the national government and are often distributed in ways that reward badly managed states with more electoral clout than other states.

    To date, no country with a significant population has emerged out of poverty without a manufacturing base that employs its masses. India's rigid labor laws (such as the one that requires manufacturing units with over 100 employees to receive government permission to fire employees) were designed like Soviet-style socialism where public enterprise is administered by government.

    These laws fail in a world of competitive global forces and deprive India's poor of millions of productive manufacturing jobs. Labor law reform is blocked by states with strong labor unions, while less rigid states such as Andhra Pradesh and Goa have been seeking change. A federalist form of government would decentralize, localize, empower and hold states responsible for their policies and finances.

    A united opposition can succeed
    At present, India has 80 million unemployed and 250 million underemployed youths. Youth unrest and violent confrontations with the state are on the rise. In the absence of fresh thinking, reactionary forces may emerge on the scene in the near future.
    Revolutions are often unsuccessful and dismantle productive structures. Reforms are often sustainable, but they need to be driven by a vocal and engaged electorate. The future of India depends on social and constitutional reforms led by the people.

    It is time for India's educated youth, social reformers and millions of marginalized individuals to join hands and develop cohesive reforms that create a sustainable future.


    Meena Degala is an Indian entrepreneur living in the US. She is also a public health expert.
 
"When India won freedom from Britain in 1947, much of the population had no understanding of what it meant to be "Indian". Most Indians only understood regional, caste and linguistic identities. Since then, nationalism has been used by the elitists in political parties to advance their own interests. "

This is similar to Pakistan situation in 1947, but i tough Maha Bharat existed since 7000 years? And everyone called himself Bharoti?
 
India a nation failing to emerge
By Meena Degala

The rhetoric that has surrounded India's general election, which will be held from April 7 until May 12, underlines how domestic political parties are trying to manipulate the electorate into accepting one of their contrasting nationalist models.

While the ruling Congress party presents a model based on the teachings of Mahatma Gandhi, the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) forwards the obsolete Akhand Bharat, or "Undivided India" concept.

When India won freedom from Britain in 1947, much of the population had no understanding of what it meant to be "Indian". Most Indians only understood regional, caste and linguistic identities. Since then, nationalism has been used by the elitists in political parties to advance their own interests.

The self-serving nationalist schemes are in contrast to the sustainable nationalism that can emerge as a byproduct of an empowered electorate and egalitarian society

The Congress model
The Congress model for India is based on Mahatma Gandhi's teaching. While Gandhi indeed did commendable work advocating non-violence as a resistance path, he had evolving opinions on important social reform issues. Gandhi had conflicting attitudes towards India's hereditary, vocation-based caste system and related "untouchability" customs that served to ostracize and segregate people.

In 1920, Gandhi asserted that every Hindu, "must follow the hereditary profession", and that "prohibition of intermarriage" between people of different castes was "necessary for a rapid evolution of the soul". Gandhi is said to have changed his view later.


The Congress Party's nationalist model is built on a deification of Gandhi, and it survives on caste politics while offering no solutions for eradicating this unhealthy custom. Caste identities are fostered solely for electoral gains. The survival of caste identities is very important for this party's electoral success.

Social reform leaders who campaign against caste have been systematically pushed aside by Congress in order to preserve the false image of a benevolent ruling dynasty.

The BJP model
The BJP's nationalist theme is built on a hijacking of the concepts of Hindutva and Akhand Bharat. While Akhand Bhara means "Undivided India", the term, "Hindutva" is not clearly defined. The BJP says it means Hindu cultural nationalism, but it has become associated with a complete ideology and culture that sets its followers apart.

Hindutva ideology elicits an intense emotional response against perceived attacks on Hinduism by Christians, Muslims or the West. Some of the actions associated with this ideology include deriding English as a decadent blotch on Indian culture, and attacking stores that sell Valentine's Day cards.

Many educated Hindus see Hindutva as a necessary evil to counter evangelical efforts to convert India's poor and untouchables to Christianity. India's lower castes have found no refuge in conversions, as an Indian Christian pastor once remarked, "for Indian Christians, caste is first, Christ is second and mere preaching won't do". Caste has become a cultural phenomenon and is practiced across religions.

The Undivided India concept refers to the Indian subcontinent as it existed before India was partitioned in 1947 and the independence of Bangladesh in 1971. However, the BJP has no desire to merge India with Pakistan and Bangladesh.

This term is most likely used to disseminate the idea that India was historically a united coherent entity and to help construct a Hindi identity. The fact remains that India, as it now exists, has never existed before in history, and the India of today more closely resembles the India defined by the British in 1947.

The BJP currently seeks a mandate on Hindu cultural nationalism, pledging that it will also streamline taxation, cut red tape and launch major infrastructure projects such as high-speed trains.

Sustainable nationalism: Equality and empowerment
Elitist nationalism projects rarely succeed. In India's current state, nationalist projects more often serve as a smokescreen for various injustices of the power elite. A sustainable democracy that seeks to live in its present and has a sense of cohesive nationalism needs an empowered electorate and an egalitarian society.

In India, there is caste discrimination, gender discrimination and class feudalism. Class feudalism runs across genders and castes. The bulk of India's poor is comprised of castes considered "untouchable" - 98% of "untouchable" or Dalit castes live in poverty.

Although outlawed, caste discrimination is rampant in rural India. Caste perpetuates poverty through denial of opportunity. In urban cities, special vegetarian caste-based Hindu apartments have been propping up in Mumbai, Chennai and Gujarat. Housing is being splintered along caste, religious and ethnic lines.

In 2009, when the United Nations Human Rights Council declared that discrimination based on caste was "human-rights abuse", India fought vehemently to stop a related resolution. India's urban elite argue that caste has already been abolished because government outlawed untouchability.

This ignores the fact that 75% of marriage advertisements explicitly mention caste - India's arranged marriage system has in recent years increasingly used advertising in newspapers and online. The country's leading marriage website, BharatMatrimony.com, lists caste as a mandatory field in its membership registration form.

Racism is considered a public health issue by sections of the international community and so should the practice of caste. Medieval caste practices cause psychological issues such as stress, anxiety and feelings of anger and rejection among members of lower castes. It also creates feelings of guilt or superiority among upper castes, and there are significant gaps in health outcomes between lower and upper caste groups.

It is imperative to recognize caste as a public health issue, and to maintain score cards on caste eradication similar to those for smoking, polio or malaria. To eliminate caste discrimination and hierarchy, caste identity and caste-based endogamy needs to be dismantled.

Similar to China's one-child policy, innovative policies should be tailored to local situations in each state and a change of semantics may be required. Large scale public health campaigns are required. These need to be supported by policies like:
  • Banning caste-based societies and caste-based marriage advertisement to stigmatize and delegitimize the practice of caste;
  • Incentivizing village priests and school teachers for caste elimination metrics. Encouraging gender and caste diversity in priesthood profession;
  • Inoculating children by incorporating caste reform thoughts into the curriculum and mandating logic as a high school course;
  • Incentivizing inter caste marriages between the lowest and upper caste groups. These marriages are subject to special stresses and societal strains.

    Policies like these need to be evaluated and implemented at a state level. The World Health Organization and UN human-rights advocates could be invited to partner with local state governments and evaluate policies and progress.

    A monolithic, centralized power structure prevails in India. A fair policy that is responsive to local needs will never evolve in the current structure.

    The electoral politics of every state and coalition interest need to be considered in order for any national policy to be formulated. Two-thirds of India's taxes are collected by the national government and are often distributed in ways that reward badly managed states with more electoral clout than other states.

    To date, no country with a significant population has emerged out of poverty without a manufacturing base that employs its masses. India's rigid labor laws (such as the one that requires manufacturing units with over 100 employees to receive government permission to fire employees) were designed like Soviet-style socialism where public enterprise is administered by government.

    These laws fail in a world of competitive global forces and deprive India's poor of millions of productive manufacturing jobs. Labor law reform is blocked by states with strong labor unions, while less rigid states such as Andhra Pradesh and Goa have been seeking change. A federalist form of government would decentralize, localize, empower and hold states responsible for their policies and finances.

    A united opposition can succeed
    At present, India has 80 million unemployed and 250 million underemployed youths. Youth unrest and violent confrontations with the state are on the rise. In the absence of fresh thinking, reactionary forces may emerge on the scene in the near future.
    Revolutions are often unsuccessful and dismantle productive structures. Reforms are often sustainable, but they need to be driven by a vocal and engaged electorate. The future of India depends on social and constitutional reforms led by the people.

    It is time for India's educated youth, social reformers and millions of marginalized individuals to join hands and develop cohesive reforms that create a sustainable future.


    Meena Degala is an Indian entrepreneur living in the US. She is also a public health expert.
What crap!!!
How is marrying in your cast racism???
If that is so, every white woman should f*ck only subcontinent guys to avoid the racist labels.:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:.

This is similar to Pakistan situation in 1947, but i tough Maha Bharat existed since 7000 years? And everyone called himself Bharoti?
There are many names for the subcontinent since thousands of years. The article is crap as India was culturally homogeneous.
 
What crap!!!
How is marrying in your cast racism???
If that is so, every white woman should f*ck only subcontinent guys to avoid the racist labels.:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:.


There are many names for the subcontinent since thousands of years. The article is crap as India was culturally homogeneous.

:unsure:

what?

The article still has some good points though.
 
Total crap and Bullshit article,What caste system and history has to do with growth of India??
 
:unsure:

what?

The article still has some good points though.
Its just some crazy chick on her PMS , dreaming about some leftist disneyland. She wants to incentivize intercast marriage. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:.
By culturally homogeneous i meant that we have been told that culturally we were one entity.
 
:unsure:

what?

The article still has some good points though.

The article has a few good suggestions, but it has also got a few facts majorly wrong. Not to forget the condescending tone.

When was the last time the Congress spoke about implementing a Gandhian model of perpetuation of social segregation or economic policy?
When was the last time a major BJP leader spoke about creating an Akhand Bharat?
98% of all Dalits live in poverty? Who made this census and how?

The views of the author seem to have wafted out of 1980s India, to be honest.
 
I am little bit uncomfortable on some of the assertions the author has made.The Congressi model as it is claimed has nothing to do with their actual ideology.Gandhiji had many critics within the party, let alone the million others outside the Congress. The person who called him "father of nation" contested with many of Gandhiji's ideological beliefs.But this is India, a land of contradiction and we accept it as a part of our national characteristic.

Secondly, there is no Akhand Bharat concept in BJP's manifesto. This idea has it's roots in early Sangh ideologies which intended Modern Pakistan,Bangladesh,Myanmar to be a part of greater India.A hollowed self contradictory ideological belief which never got popular support within. BJP is a political party committed to abide by Indian Constitution and it had sided itself in many cases from the radical Hindu outfit's declared nonsense. Akhand Bharat concept is just one of them.

Lastly, what do unemployment, poverty,Rape, Child molestation have to do with failure of India as a nation?Elite Rome was founded on slavery.Medieval Europe had seen some bloodiest battle in the name of religion. World has seen the worst atrocity committed by a modern nation state just seventy years back, not too old if we take a look at the antiquity of Human civilization!! Modern Europe and US has many more dogmas and blind prejudices which fractured their inherent social fabric.But wait, that certainly does not make them an essentially failed state,right? So why would I see India failing as a nation when it has performed way better than West by housing three of world's most ancient religions together for three thousand years.Can someone living in the west imagine the degree of coherence Indians show when it comes to the plurality we have housed since 1947? Four major religions, their thousand sects,hundreds of languages and thousands of ethnics live together in this country.Social prejudices and vices will be there but as long as,the spirit of pluralism remains as a truth, India will never fail as a nation.
 
"When India won freedom from Britain in 1947, much of the population had no understanding of what it meant to be "Indian". Most Indians only understood regional, caste and linguistic identities. Since then, nationalism has been used by the elitists in political parties to advance their own interests. "

This is similar to Pakistan situation in 1947, but i tough Maha Bharat existed since 7000 years? And everyone called himself Bharoti?

whoever wrote that is a fool,gandhiji travelled as south as possible n got great support all the time.

The local identities never disturbed the global one,

Ek Parivaar mein 2 bhaiyon ke beech mein jagda hota hain lekin parivaar toh rehta hi hain.
 
I am little bit uncomfortable on some of the assertions the author has made.The Congressi model as it is claimed has nothing to do with their actual ideology.Gandhiji had many critics within the party, let alone the million others outside the Congress. The person who called him "father of nation" contested with many of Gandhiji's ideological beliefs.But this is India, a land of contradiction and we accept it as a part of our national characteristic.

Secondly, there is no Akhand Bharat concept in BJP's manifesto. This idea has it's roots in early Sangh ideologies which intended Modern Pakistan,Bangladesh,Myanmar to be a part of greater India.A hollowed self contradictory ideological belief which never got popular support within. BJP is a political party committed to abide by Indian Constitution and it had sided itself in many cases from the radical Hindu outfit's declared nonsense. Akhand Bharat concept is just one of them.
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This is what she wrote in article.


"The Undivided India concept refers to the Indian subcontinent as it existed before India was partitioned in 1947 and the independence of Bangladesh in 1971. However, the BJP has no desire to merge India with Pakistan and Bangladesh.

This term is most likely used to disseminate the idea that India was historically a united coherent entity and to help construct a Hindi identity. The fact remains that India, as it now exists, has never existed before in history, and the India of today more closely resembles the India defined by the British in 1947. "

She clearly say BJP has no desire to merge with Pakistan & BD.

whoever wrote that is a fool,gandhiji travelled as south as possible n got great support all the time.

The local identities never disturbed the global one,

Ek Parivaar mein 2 bhaiyon ke beech mein jagda hota hain lekin parivaar toh rehta hi hain.

Yes for me parivaar mean our Punjabi bros in east Punjab and for pashtuns mean their pashtun bros in Afghanistan. It does not mean every lullo of South Asia is from same parivar.
 
This is what she wrote in article.


"The Undivided India concept refers to the Indian subcontinent as it existed before India was partitioned in 1947 and the independence of Bangladesh in 1971. However, the BJP has no desire to merge India with Pakistan and Bangladesh.
Agree.But she also said this
The BJP's nationalist theme is built on a hijacking of the concepts of Hindutva and Akhand Bharat.
. She fails to grasp the idea that every civilization has to go through a phase where it consolidates itself as a nation.Just like Great Britain or Modern Europe did.India was no exception.
 
"When India won freedom from Britain in 1947, much of the population had no understanding of what it meant to be "Indian". Most Indians only understood regional, caste and linguistic identities. Since then, nationalism has been used by the elitists in political parties to advance their own interests. "

This is similar to Pakistan situation in 1947, but i tough Maha Bharat existed since 7000 years? And everyone called himself Bharoti?

The name Bharat has existed for thousands of years, it wasn't invented in dormitory of Cambridge university.

"The Undivided India concept refers to the Indian subcontinent as it existed before India was partitioned in 1947 and the independence of Bangladesh in 1971.

I am still baffled by the poetry of Allama Iqbal highlighting deep Indian nationalism, after reading I find those poems are for Indians particularly the Indian Muslims but not for the Pakistanis because Pakistan don't associate themselves with Indian race. ;)
 
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India,Pakistan and Bangldesh has world biggest off spring factory. There love of having childern (lol) is biggest hurdle in progress.
 
This is what she wrote in article.


"The Undivided India concept refers to the Indian subcontinent as it existed before India was partitioned in 1947 and the independence of Bangladesh in 1971. However, the BJP has no desire to merge India with Pakistan and Bangladesh.

This term is most likely used to disseminate the idea that India was historically a united coherent entity and to help construct a Hindi identity. The fact remains that India, as it now exists, has never existed before in history, and the India of today more closely resembles the India defined by the British in 1947. "

She clearly say BJP has no desire to merge with Pakistan & BD.



Yes for me parivaar mean our Punjabi bros in east Punjab and for pashtuns mean their pashtun bros in Afghanistan. It does not mean every lullo of South Asia is from same parivar.

thats why pakistan is moth eaten.

India mein,a sardar drives his truck all over,he travels far and wide and people see him as a brother,a hardworking person whose son is probably in the army.

Thats why our parivar is big.
 
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