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Indecent writing included in urdu literature book- Sargodha University

Yes he was a communist


Then u shud be okay with ur daughters or sisters reading this content from their syllabus in a co education environment?
Thats mentality . You always think only one side . What do you think about literature in english ? Is it all good ? Nop but both genders study it but not with the mentality which you have . In literature we discuss the problem not just few obscene line . And people like you dnt have answers then start attacking on others
 
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Fuhash nigar is the term used for this person. Did nothing else besides writing erotic novels and drowning himself in alcohol.
It is beyond common sense why his erotic pieces are taught in universities? What educational value does his rubbish offers? Can university girls and boys read this cr@p in front of each other?


An upright and honest officer banned many of his short stories which were intended to be published in a magazine, he was demonized and presented as a villain in a recent movie about manto.

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I was 13-14 years old when i came across his books for the first time. I had always been an avid book reader whether from urdu fiction or english. So i found a pile of some mantos books sitting on my cousins desk. My cousin is few years older to me, perhaps he was recommended mantos crap by some of his friends to get the erotica fun or maybe just like myself he too is an avid urdu literature follower, infact, to label mantos shyttiess as literature will be a cruel insult to expression urdu adab cause all he wrote was bull crap.

Anyways , when i found several of mantos short novels and books on his table i started reading them. By that age i had already reas many famous urdu writers and i had found some bits and stuff here and there vulgar in their writings ,BUT i had NEVER read anyone as vulgar, cheap, classless and with the vibe of being mentally sick as i did in manto.

The guys writings only reflected weird sexual imaginations and fantasies in his work. One of the things one would always notice will be that when you tell those people who are manto supporters like some of my friends or random people i came across that how vulgar manto wrote , they would laugh at it and would euphemistically try to brush his vulgarity off by saying " lolzz ya he was a bit bold but his writings have deeper meaning which if understood dont feel bold"

Whats even worst is that in some sort of self defenese mechanism way people from our showbiz and other circles who are advocates of spread of vulgarity , on their own and without any mention of criticism towards manto , start mocking manto critics by stating oh in this age people would have lynched manto or jitni intolerance hai manto bardasht na hota bla bla. Just a mental tactic kay is say pehlay koi manto ko kuch kahay hum khud hee is tarah kay mocking remarks day kay manto kay critics ko chup kawra dain.

I dont know why our showbiz industry has been hijacked by people who are supporters and propagaters of all kinds of vulgarity. I had never called showbiz ppl mirasis , as i felt many are educated ppl with point of views, but now seeing the povs of showbiz ppl i would label 99 pc of them as mirasis cause just as their job is a non serious business of enterating people in the similar fashion their thoughts and views are also non serious and proponent of everything which is wrong and twisted. I dont believe such people need to be taken seriously and as anything beyond mirasis.


Now why i mentioned showbiz here was because of sarmad khoosat ,the man who is the director of film / biopic manto as well as of the drama manto which was the extended version of film.

One thing i should mention here is that nature has its way of revenging on people like manto. This man had spent some good years of his life in a mental hospital. No wonder with this kind of messed up mind u wud end up there.

Sarmad khoosat not only directed the film on manto but he also acted the title role. When i found out about this film i was really surprised that how these people are going to work on mantos image fix when his writings are all sitting out there for any one to read and understand? Plus why is manto even worthy of it?

Many people tried to cover up his almost constant pervert elemant in writings by calling it an apt depiction of deep human emotions, miseries and what not. Some people credited him for showing miseries of women and depicting womens emotions quite well. Sorry but so far in all his writings that i had read i found one constant thing and that was picking stories from lower income groups and then penning them in a sexualized form. Nothing more nothing less. I never got why he earned the credit for humanizing women or expressing their suppressed emotions.


So when i was watching the drama manto i instantly knew that those people who had worked on banning his work will be portrayed as vicious villains with lose morals and plotting natures involved in all sorts of moral and financial corruptions. I wasnt really wrong. It was very pathetic that how manto was constantly shown as a victim in the movie and blame for his state was volleyed around at others. In the drama they showed that mantos work was banned because he was a communist.

What is more shameless is that while the movie director was tossing the blame around he was also showing manto as a drinking , non stop smoking guy admitted to mental hospital while his wife and young daughters were suffering behind. I mean who was responsible for this state of manto? No one but himself and when u have a wife and young kids and home , it doesnt suit u to waste urself life on ur fantasies and random shenanigans.

Coming to sarmad khoosat i had recently watched a new drama directed by this man , the drama was a short series called akhri station and it was made on oppressed women. The issues shown about womens suffering were real but the play was sadly shot in a highly vulgar manner, like for instance majority of the women (around 4 -5 out of 7) shown in the drama sharing their stories without any reason were shown lying flat on their backs while narrating stories and camera unnecessarily covered their upper halfs of the body, such scenes were shot in so much excess and that too without any reason that u went on to question urself that "is this drama about womens rights or is it about focussing on their bodies?" Plus another actress sanam saeed a brit national with a face no one will give her a role of a kaam wali maasi, who likes to bad mouth pakistan that how in pakistan she cant live her life cause of people etc etc , was shown lying or sitting with legs kept open for no reason. It was as if the director sarmad wanted to show his actresses in such state because he felt showing women in this way celebrates their "womanness"

And i am not surprised the same guy sarmad khoosat too is enough a mess in his head that he tried committing suicide some years back.

The article u had shared about Chaudhry Mohammad hussain mentioned iqbals daughter muneera and her husband salahuddin. Muneera and salahuddins son Yousuf salahuddin is one of the most influential and rich people in pakistan at the moment. I think he is an industrialist plus he is considerd a play boy. He is always present at every showbiz function infact he is invited at every event as he is considerd that sugar daddy who can help u shoot to stardom and u will always find models and actresses hanging by his shoulders. Hate this man and i find him repulsive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yousuf_Salahuddin

Plus this guy yousuf who is the grandson of "Allama iqbal" has great contacts with indians and bollyshytwood and he acts as a bridge in getting pakistani talent hired by indians. Shaan the pakistani actor was offered the role of a villain in indian film gajini , the roles offer came from aamir through yousuf as yousuf is friends with amir and nadiawalas etc. in short jis shakhs nay pakistan ka idea diya tha us ka pota aaj khud un indians ka dost hai aur unki industry may kaam karnay kay leeay he p tries to convince our actors , singers etc. And yousuf salahuddin is a filthy rich guy btw.

Thats mentality . You always think only one side . What do you think about literature in english ? Is it all good ? Nop but both genders study it but not with the mentality which you have . In literature we discuss the problem not just few obscene line . And people like you dnt have answers then start attacking on others
What is the problem here? You said this excerpt is fine so i said ,ok its fine , its even cool when ur sisters will study such material with male classmates around.

Now whats is wrong in my mentality ? I am just supporting your views. Why acting so sensi?

As of english literature i dont recall ever coming across such type of english literature being made a part of our curriculum.

Its funny that jokers and cuckolds on this forum will support dating and inclusion of vulgar materials into course books but when one will ask them u are okay with ur mothers, sisters, daughters engaging in same dating stuff or reading such material in coursebooks they take instant offence.

Be open minded. Kya ho jaey ga agar tumhari behnain ya betiyan yeh sab parh lain gee class may beth kay chill karo.
 
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Manto is the same disgraceful turd who talked about his daughter's first time in his books.
Not true as far as i know!
Plus Mantoo is a bit too difficult to understand sometimes!
 
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Fuhash nigar is the term used for this person. Did nothing else besides writing erotic novels and drowning himself in alcohol.
It is beyond common sense why his erotic pieces are taught in universities? What educational value does his rubbish offers? Can university girls and boys read this cr@p in front of each other?


An upright and honest officer banned many of his short stories which were intended to be published in a magazine, he was demonized and presented as a villain in a recent movie about manto.

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@Desert Fox


And That Movie Was Made By Geo The Corrupt Foreign Funded Anti Pakistan Channel Correct ?????????
 
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Be open minded. Kya ho jaey ga agar tumhari behnain ya betiyan yeh sab parh lain gee class may beth kay chill k

By that logic, girls shouldn't be doctors or nurses because they are gonna study much more than Mantoo's romance novel in class room,,,
 
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I was 13-14 years old when i came across his books for the first time. I had always been an avid book reader whether from urdu fiction or english. So i found a pile of some mantos books sitting on my cousins desk. My cousin is few years older to me, perhaps he was recommended mantos crap by some of his friends to get the erotica fun or maybe just like myself he too is an avid urdu literature follower. Infact, to label mantos shyttiess as literature will be a cruel insult to expression urdu adab cause all he wrote was bull crap.

Anyways , when i found several of mantos short novels and books on his table i started reading them. By that age i had already many famous urdu writers and i had found some bits and stuff here and there vulgar in their writings ,BUT i had NEVER read anyone as vulgar, cheap, classless and with the vibe of being mentally sick as i did in manto.

The guys writings only reflected weird sexual imaginations and fantasies in his work. One of the things one would always notice willbe that when you tell those people who are manto supporters like some of my friends or random people i came across that how vulgar manto wrote , they would laugh at it and would euphemistically try to brush his vulgarity off by saying " lolzz ya he was a bit bold but his writings have deeper meaning which if understood doesnt feel bold"

Whats even worst is that in some sort of self defenese mechanism way people from our showbiz and other circles who are advocates of spread of vulgarity , on their own and without any mention of criticism towards manto , start mocking manto critics by stating oh in this age people would have lynched manto or jitni intolerance hai manto bardasht na hota bla bla. Just a mental tactic kay is say pehlay koi manto ko kuch kahay hum khud hee is tarah kay mocking remarks day kay manto kay critics ko chup kawra dain.

I dont know why our showbiz industry has been hijacked by people who are supporters and propagaters of all kinds of vulgarity. I had never called showbiz ppl mirasis , as i felt many are educated ppl with point of views, but now seeing the povs of showbiz ppl i would label 99 pc of them as mirasis cause just as their job is a non serious business of enterating people in the similar fashion their thoughts and views are also non serious and proponent of everything which is wrong and twisted. I dont believe such people need to be taken seriously and as anything beyond mirasis.


Now why i mentioned showbiz here was because of sarmad khoosat the man who is the director of film / biopic manto as well as the drama which was the extended version of film.

One thing i should mention here is that nature has its way of revenging on people like manto. This man had spent some good years of his life in a mental hospital. No wonder with this kind of messed up mind u wud end up there.

Sarmad khoosat not only directed the film on manto but he also acted the title role. When i found out about this film i was really surprised that how these people are going to work on mantos image fix when his writings are all sitting put there for any one to read and understand? Plus why is manto even worthy of it?

Many people tried to cover up his almost constant pervert elemant in writings by calling it an apt depiction of deep human emotions, miseries and what not. Some people credited him for showing miseries of women and depicting womens emotions quite well. Sorry but so far in all his writings that i had read i found one constant thing and that was picking stories from lower income groups and then penning them in a sexualized form. Nothing more nothing less. I never got why he earned the credit for humanizing women or expressing their suppressed emotions.


So when i was watching the drama manto i instantly knew that those people who had worked on banning his work will be portrayed as vicious villains with lose morals and plotting natures involved in all sorts of moral and financial corruptions. I wasnt really wrong. It was very pathetic that how manto was constantly shown as a victim in the movie and blame for his state was volleyed around at others. In the drama they showed taht mantos work was banned because he was a communist.

What is more shameless is that while the movie director was tossing the blame around he was also showing manto as a drinking , non stop smoking guy admitted to mental hospital while his wife and young daughters were suffering behind. I mean who was responsible for this state of manto? No one but himself and when u have a wife and young kids and home , it doesnt suit u to waste urself life on ur fantasies and random shenanigans.

Coming to sarmad khoosat i had recently watched a new drama directed by this man , the drama was a short series called akhri station and it was made on oppressed women. The issues shown about womens suffering were real but the play was sadly shot in a highly vulgar manner, like for instance almost all the women shown in the drama sharing their stories without any reason shown lying flat on their backs while narrating stories and camera unnecessarily covering theirwere upper halfs of the body, such scenes were shot in so much excess and that too without any reason that u went on to question urself that ,is this drama about womens rights or is it about focussing on their bodies? Plus another actress sanam saeed a brit national with a face no one will give her a role of a kaam wali maasi, who likes to bad mouth pakistan that how in pakistan she cant live her life cause of people etc etc , was shown lying or sitting with legs kept open for no reason. It was as if the director sarmad wanted to show his actresses in such state because he felt showing women in this way celebrates their "womanness"

And i am not surprised the same guy sarmad khoosat too is enough a mess in his head that he tried committing suicide some years back.

The article u had shared about chaudhaey mohammamd hussain mentioned iqbals daughter muneera and her hsuband salahuddin. Muneera and salahuddins son Yousuf salahuddin is one of the most influential and rich people in pakistan at the moment. I think he is an industrialist plus he is considerd a play pboy. He is always present at every showbiz function infact he is invited as he is considerd that sugar daddy who can help u shoot to stardom and u will always find models and actresses hanging by his shoulders. Hate this man and i find him repulsive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yousuf_Salahuddin

Plus this guy ypusuf who is the grandson of "Allama iqbal" has great contacts with indians and bollyshytwood and he acts as a bridge in getting pakistani talent hired by indians. Shaan the pakistani actor was offered the role of a villain in indian film gajini , the roles offer came from aamir through yousuf as yousuf is friends with amir and nadiawalas etc. in short jos shakhs nay pakistan ka idea diya tha us ka pota aaj khud un indians ka dost hai aur unki industry may kaam karnay kay leeay he really tries to convince our actors , singers etc. And yousuf salahuddin is a filthy rich guy btw.


What is the problem here? You said this excerpt is fine so i said ,ok its fine , its even cool when ur sisters will study such material with male classmates around.

Now whats is wrong in my mentality ? I am just supporting your views. Why acting os sensi?

As of english literature i dont recall ever coming across such type of english literature being made a part of our curriculum.

Its funny that jokers and cuckolds on this forum will support dating and inclusion of vulgar materials into course books but when one will ask them u are okay with ur mothers, sisters, daughters engaging in same dtaing stuff or reading such material in coursebooks they take instant offence.

Be open minded. Kya ho jaey ga agar tumhari behnain ya betiyan yeh sab parh lain gee class may beth kay chill karo.
Bhai chill karo ap ki sis ya mom ya behan jab bemar ho tu lady doctor k pas le k na jana unhon ne obscene parha ha in co edu

Logon k bhi ajeeb hi logic hain.
 
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Bhai chill karo ap ki sis ya mom ya behan jab bemar ho tu lady doctor k pas le k na jana unhon ne obscene parha ha in co edu

Logon k bhi ajeeb hi logic hain.
I Dont know why are u getting offended, i just agreed with you kay apni behnon aur betiyon kay apnay male classfellows kay saath yeh sab parhnay pay bura na manana.

Btw i didn't know that lets say when your sister is studying medicine and she is learning about human anatomy and how to treat humans will equate with the scenario when ur sister is reading erotica content in her literature class in presence of her male classmates. What an amazing example.

And That Movie Was Made By Geo The Corrupt Foreign Funded Anti Pakistan Channel Correct ?????????
Yeah joint venture tha asif raza mir, baber javaid and geo ka.
 
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Manto is the same disgraceful turd who talked about his daughter's first time in his books.
Mantoo was a good writer when he was in India no doubt but he made a mistake of his life he migrated to Pakistan despite his friends request no to move and write for Indian films but he refuses and joined Pakistan....from here he not only lost his work but also landed in hot water because of his explicit work and hate for Pakistan....if you read his short story Khol do, shaheed saaz and Toba tek singh you will clearly find him a bigot who present Pakistani Muslims oppressors and morally corrupt.
 
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I Dont know why are u getting offended, i just agreed with you kay apni behnon aur betiyon kay apnay male classfellows kay saath yeh sab parhnay pay bura na manana.

Btw i didn't know that lets say when your sister is studying medicine and she is learning about human anatomy and how to treat humans will equate with the scenario when ur sister is reading erotica content in her literature class in presence of her male classmates. What an amazing example.


Yeah joint venture tha asif raza mir, baber javaid and geo ka.
So yo think studying human anatomty does not affect human emotional . Similarly if you know the true spirit opf literature it does not arouse any emotion in student unless people who dnt understand it and just use it to satisfy their erotic eemotions
 
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So yo think studying human anatomty does not affect human emotional . Similarly if you know the true spirit opf literature it does not arouse any emotion in student unless people who dnt understand it and just use it to satisfy their erotic eemotions
LMAO

Mantoo was a good writer when he was in India no doubt but he made a mistake of his life he migrated to Pakistan despite his friends request no to move and write for Indian films but he refuses and joined Pakistan....from here he not only lost his work but also landed in hot water because of his explicit work and hate for Pakistan....if you read his short story Khol do, shaheed saaz and Toba tek singh you will clearly find him a bigot who present Pakistani Muslims oppressors and morally corrupt.
Yes i remember his migration to pakistan part was mentioned as an ehsan on pakistan in the film and viewers were made to feel guilty that oh see that great human manto had chosen to migrate to this god forsaken country Pakistan , aisa mulk jahan koi ana na chahay and how he was treated.
 
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Manto must have been out of his mind ...... during monsoon (barsat) its humid and suffocating already there is nothing special and lovey dovey about this season, one hates even the vest he is wearing.

And who the hell would spend a whole day hugging another humans naked body. I mean wtf does wo din bhar randheer k sath chipti rahi ...... even mean or how the hell is it even possible ......... this is tharkiest of the imaginations which is practically not possible unless the person involved is khasii.
 
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And That Movie Was Made By Geo The Corrupt Foreign Funded Anti Pakistan Channel Correct ?????????
yes
So yo think studying human anatomty does not affect human emotional . Similarly if you know the true spirit opf literature it does not arouse any emotion in student unless people who dnt understand it and just use it to satisfy their erotic eemotions
Studying anatomy is not the same as reading erotic literature in front of a classroom full of girls and boys.
 
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so Manto was a thurkee he expressed his thrak in words people read it fine itna laraye jagra kyon!

yahan mando saansu hathun aur hotun say mamlat tay kar raha hai aur yahan warrior keyboard say mamlat tay kar raha hain!
 
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