Incident reported between a French and Turkish frigate in the Mediterranean

[ÇölKaplanı]

Wasn't looting Mali enough?

Apparently not. Neo-imperialism has no boundaries...

 

[T-123456]

Y'all know I - like most Pakistanis - am shamelessly pro-Turkey. However, whatever anyone wants to say pro or anti Turkey or about the ottomans or about ataturk or whether they support or reject Turkish actions in Libya, Syria, Timbuktoo, or anywhere else....one thing is absolutely clear from Turkey's military's actions over the last year or so.

They got balls and routinely put their money where their mouth is.

No my friend,Syria was and is a disaster,''balls'' were needed but not gotten.
We should have entered when Obama(worst American president in history) chickened out.
Assad would have been gone and no 4 million Syrian refugees.
They stopped without finishing all the operations in Syria,three times now.
In Libya,instead of pushing forward,they stopped again which makes it 4.
If you start something,finish it!
Then you have balls.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

No my friend,Syria was and is a disaster,''balls'' were needed but not gotten.
We should have entered when Obama(worst American president in history) chickened out.
Assad would have been gone and no 4 million Syrian refugees.
They stopped without finishing all the operations in Syria,three times now.
In Libya,instead of pushing forward,they stopped again which makes it 4.
If you start something,finish it!
Then you have balls.

You raise a good point. I was referring more to the Turkish military in terms of their actual combat acumen. Whether the correct orders are coming from higher up or not is a different debate and you're right that multiple mistakes have been made there.

 

[nahtanbob]

You obviously have no knowledge of history. besides their colonisation of poor 3rd world countries, the french have throughout their entire history been subject to foreign influence or played a neglectable role in European politics when independent.

For starters the forerunner of the EU is brainchild of farsighted post World War 2 German & French leaders. It is better to be silent than reveal your ignorance

Man What you smoke must be a Great damn shit. France was occupied by NAZI Army in a blink of an eye. French Army is good with blinding peaceful protesters and teargasing them to Death. German Army proved France is an overrated lackey

Other than USSR and USA no one had the ability to stop the Wehrmacht

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

Other than USSR and USA no one had the ability to stop the Wehrmacht

What about the British?

 

[Constantin84]

For starters the forerunner of the EU is brainchild of farsighted post World War 2 German & French leaders. It is better to be silent than reveal your ignorance



Other than USSR and USA no one had the ability to stop the Wehrmacht

The USSR lost a territory 4 times the size of France despite outnumbering the Nazis in men and equipment at the beginning of Barbarossa .France simply didn't have the Soviet strategic depth

@ÇölKaplanı

 

[nahtanbob]

What about the British?

They had the ability in the air and on the sea. but not on land I doubt it

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

They had the ability in the air and on the sea. but not on land I doubt it

Well considering the both world wars I can safely say that you cannot win a war solely with a landforce only...

 

[nahtanbob]

Well considering the both world wars I can safely say that you cannot win a war solely with a landforce

The Germans had a powerful air force. They were capable of building a navy - look no further than the U-boat fleet. They neglected naval aviation which was huge.

The Wehrmacht almost did. A victory in Stalingrad would have opened the road to Cacausus and the Middle East. There is no way British stop million+ German troops with armor and fuel reserves

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

@ÇölKaplanı

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[Baybars Han]

French have a deep hatred of Turks, since crusades. They are staunchly anti Muslim. We gave them tough and bad times quite a few times in history.

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

The Germans had a powerful air force. They were capable of building a navy - look no further than the U-boat fleet. They neglected naval aviation which was huge.

The Wehrmacht almost did. A victory in Stalingrad would have opened the road to Cacausus and the Middle East. There is no way British stop million+ German troops with armor and fuel reserves

A victory in Stalingrad wouldn't change the way things went even at the slightest bit. Germans were doomed to fail from the very start. Yea Luftwaffe was superior back in the battle of France but they didn't had the fleet to bring the British to their knees; so they lacked the proper plannings as well. In summary I have only one answer to you:
War exhaustion...

 

[Constantin84]

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I was explaining that the Soviets were no better than the French, they simply had a better strategic depth.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

French have a deep hatred of Turks, since crusades. They are staunchly anti Muslim. We gave them tough and bad times quite a few times in history.

Always are sore point for Europeans, but this map makes me very happy.

 

[Constantin84]

Always are sore point for Europeans, but this map makes me very happy.

Lol....do you see Europeans running around with Roman maps or even maps with Western European colonial empires? Grow up dude.