In Hong Kong, It’s the Fans Who Protest During the National Anthem (New York Times)

[Zen0]

HONG KONG — In the United States, athletes protest during the national anthem. In Hong Kong, fans do.

Sports fans in Hong Kong have been turning their backs, booing and even raising their middle fingers as China’s national anthem is played, a protest of Beijing’s growing influence in this semiautonomous city.

While Hong Kong returned to Chinese control in 1997, it still fields its own teams in international sports competitions. One of its most popular teams, men’s soccer, has become a focal point for discontent.

On Tuesday, fans booed before the start of an Asian Cup qualifier against Malaysia, which Hong Kong won, 2-0. Last week, they protested the anthem before a friendly match against Laos that Hong Kong won, 4-0.


The boos come from hard-core fans who worry that Hong Kong’s autonomy and unique identity are being undermined by Beijing. A few even hold up signs advocating independence, an idea that mainland and local officials denounce as illegal.


Now the authorities are planning tougher measures. Last month, China’s legislature approved a law prohibiting disrespect of the anthem, barring the song’s use in commercials or parodies, and outlining punishments for people who do not “stand with respect” and “maintain a dignified bearing” when it is played.

Weekslong street protests in Hong Kong known as the Umbrella Movement ended three years ago without the government ceding any ground on expanding residents’ say in local elections.

But that spirit of protest has been revived in the stadium jeers, which appear to have started two years ago. Hong Kong played China in World Cup qualifiers twice in 2015, and those matches took on an added political dimension coming a year after the street protests.


Hong Kong soccer fans booed the Chinese national anthem and held banners calling for Hong Kong’s independence from China during a match against Malaysia on Tuesday.
KIN CHEUNG / ASSOCIATED PRESS
With a population of seven million, Hong Kong is a minnow in the ocean of international soccer. But the city has a long history with the sport and, with the help of some foreign-born players, often punches above its weight.

China has a huge population to draw from and its teams have been successful in several sports. But its men’s soccer teams have routinely struggled in international competition.

In 1985, Hong Kong beat China, 2-1, in Beijing to eliminate the team from qualifying for the following year’s World Cup, setting off a riot. In the 2015 World Cup qualifiers, Hong Kong tied China twice. To add to the insult, the home fans booed the Chinese national anthem before the game in Hong Kong.


The world governing body for soccer, FIFA, fined the Hong Kong Football Association for fans booing during one of the China matches and also during a 2015 World Cup qualifier against Qatar. The city’s football association has called on fans to behave, and stewards make vain attempts to encourage hard-core supporters to keep quiet during the national anthem.


The anthem, “March of the Volunteers,” was a poem set to music in 1935, and it became popular as a call for resistance against Japan. Its lyricist, Tian Han, died in prison during the Cultural Revolution in 1968.

The anthem law went into effect on Oct. 1. But Hong Kong, a former British colony, maintains a semiautonomous existence that allows it to keep its own economic and legal systems. So Hong Kong will need to enact its own version of the law, which it has yet to do.

Thus far, Hong Kong fans are unbowed.

“We do it spontaneously because we don’t think we are part of the P.R.C.,” said Sanho Chung, 24, who was at Tuesday’s game, using an abbreviation for the People’s Republic of China. “We are different.”

Rights activists and pro-democracy politicians are concerned that the law could be used to suppress free expression.

“I think it will be quite problematic to apply it,” said Dennis Kwok, a member of Hong Kong’s Legislative Council.


Jorge Tarres Paramo of Hong Kong scoring a goal against Malaysia on Tuesday. FIFA fined the Hong Kong Football Association for fans booing during a match against China in 2015.
BOBBY YIP / REUTERS
He noted that the mainland law allows the police to place violators in administrative detention for 15 days. That method of incarceration, which bypasses the courts, does not exist in Hong Kong.


And the idea of showing reverence will be hard to define, he said. “What does it mean to be respectful of the national anthem?” Mr. Kwok said. “That concept of law is simply unheard-of here, to have to stand in silence. I think we need to be very careful defining what is respectful and what is not.”


Hong Kong officials say the national anthem law is a routine matter that should not prompt concern among residents.

“I just want to reiterate that, rightly so, we are living in a more politicized environment, but we need not adopt this very politicized stance in considering and dealing with any matter,” Carrie Lam, the chief executive of Hong Kong, said in August. “This particular matter of national anthem legislation does not carry any particular scope for politicization.”

In recent months, the authorities have taken several steps to punish people for protesting or for calling for Hong Kong’s independence. Now, even symbolic protests are being suppressed.

Last month, a lawmaker was fined 5,000 Hong Kong dollars, about $640, for turning upside down several small Hong Kong and Chinese flags on desks in the Legislative Council chamber.

And the appearance of posters calling for Hong Kong independence on a wall run by the student union at the Chinese University of Hong Kong set off debate between local and mainland students. School administrators and Hong Kong officials called the signs illegal, but legal scholars said it was questionable whether colonial-era sedition laws could be enforced.


“The introduction of a national anthem law is coming at a time when people who oppose symbols of the Chinese government and symbols of the Chinese Communist Party have reason to fear they could end up behind bars,” said Maya Wang, senior China researcher for Human Rights Watch. “This could have a chilling effect on freedom of expression.”


On Tuesday at the match against Malaysia, Mr. Chung, clad in a red home jersey, stood with fellow fans during halftime. He said the national anthem law would not stop him from booing.

“It does dampen our freedom of speech, forcing us to respect something,” he said. “I worry, but I will still practice my rights. I think this is my right.” tv


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/11/world/asia/hong-kong-china-national-anthem-protest.html

 

[Zen0]

@ito @Trumpcard @member.exe @SOUTHie @rajiv sharma @RowdyRathore @wiseone2 @Gibbs

In case people forgot how big the umbrella movement was , 90% of Hong Kong came to the street to demand freedom last year .

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

90% of Hong Kong came to the street to demand freedom last year .

Your source?

Because what you're referring, people coming to the street to protests, is this:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-jailing-of-democracy-activists-idUSKCN1B00CK

And the elections in 2016 is here:

http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...g-turnout-bitterly-fought-legislative-council

And my source is the Human Rights Watch:

https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/09/27/three-years-after-umbrella-movement-hong-kongers-soldier

 

[wiseone2]

@ito @Trumpcard @member.exe @SOUTHie @rajiv sharma @RowdyRathore @wiseone2 @Gibbs

In case people forgot how big the umbrella movement was , 90% of Hong Kong came to the street to demand freedom last year .

how do you know 90% ?

 

[kankan326]

90% of Hong Kong came to the street to demand freedom last year .

HK would immediately collapse if 90% population were on street.

 

[shadows888]

special snowflakes hahaha

how do you know 90% ?

just like all his posts, always making up BS.

 

[Jackdaws]

It is quite sad that the rights of the people of Hong Kong are being trampled upon. China is just a ticking time bomb - everyone from the Tibetans to residents of Xinjiang all yearn to throw away the communist yoke and become free.

 

[kankan326]

It is quite sad that the rights of the people of Hong Kong are being trampled upon. China is just a ticking time bomb - everyone from the Tibetans to residents of Xinjiang all yearn to throw away the communist yoke and become free.

Treason is crime not right. Was HK's governor selected by HK people during British colony age? How come it's a trample if they lose something they never had? These traitors use it as an excuse.

 

[SBUS-CXK]

It is quite sad that the rights of the people of Hong Kong are being trampled upon. China is just a ticking time bomb - everyone from the Tibetans to residents of Xinjiang all yearn to throw away the communist yoke and become free.

More sad is Hongkong people working in the mainland, earn us money, but returned to HK to support independent.

They are respected in the mainland. This is totally different from the 1 billion Untouchables in India!!!
They are different from Muslims or sikhs! No one forced them to manually take shit.
Similarly, HK is also different from Kashmir, Manipur, Assam, Tamil nadu. HK is peaceful.

Of course, there are more HK people and Taiwanese opposed to independence. This is what the West doesn't want to see, so the West doesn't say it. The West does not say, how will indiapigs know?. So it's not surprising.

Indians need to save themselves from the whole country.

@Zen0 The 90% areas are against India, this is really

 

[Gibbs]

@ito @Trumpcard @member.exe @SOUTHie @rajiv sharma @RowdyRathore @wiseone2 @Gibbs

In case people forgot how big the umbrella movement was , 90% of Hong Kong came to the street to demand freedom last year .

Lol 90% ?? The whole place would have collapsed if that was true..

You have never set foot in HK have ya ??

 

[lcloo]

The umbrella movement has faded, majority of Hong Kong citizens now support legal actions against these people who destroyed public properties and obstruct police carrying out their duty.

And regarding this guy in red circle, the leader of the anti-government movement, a copy of his letter was circulated in the media, exposed his Chinese education is so poor that he wrote so many wrong characters which even a ten year student can write better than him.

However, he speaks good English and has many American supports ( financially and politically), and from his expart professors and US law makers. With heavy western brain washing and very poor Chinese language, no wonder he does not want to be Chinese. He even flew to US to meet US law makers to make complains as if they are his sugar daddy.

By the way, he is now in jail, lucky for him the Hong Kong court is very lenient. Also the photo above is quite old.

 

[Jackdaws]

Treason is crime not right. Was HK's governor selected by HK people during British colony age? How come it's a trample if they lose something they never had? These traitors use it as an excuse.

Expressing your views is not treason. Maybe in communist countries it is but in civilized democracies, this is not the case.

 

[Chhatrapati]

However, he speaks good English and has many American supports ( financially and politically), and from his expart professors and US law makers. With heavy western brain washing and very poor Chinese language, no wonder he does not want to be Chinese. He even flew to US to meet US law makers to make complains as if they are his sugar daddy.

As expected, the western conspiracy against mother China.

@Zen0 You are gonna trigger the Chine mega trolls and make them post about India. Soon this thread will turn as 'India news'.

They are respected in the mainland. This is totally different from the 1 billion Untouchables in India!!!
They are different from Muslims or sikhs! No one forced them to manually take shit.
Similarly, HK is also different from Kashmir, Manipur, Assam, Tamil nadu. HK is peaceful.

Of course, there are more HK people and Taiwanese opposed to independence. This is what the West doesn't want to see, so the West doesn't say it. The West does not say, how will indiapigs know?. So it's not surprising.

Indians need to save themselves from the whole country.
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@Zen0 The 90% areas are against India, this is really

First one triggered. Congrats.

 

[TaiShang]

As expected, the western conspiracy against mother China.

@Zen0 You are gonna trigger the Chine mega trolls and make them post about India. Soon this thread will turn as 'India news'.

First one triggered. Congrats.

Expressing your views is not treason. Maybe in communist countries it is but in civilized democracies, this is not the case.

I will ask an off-topic question. Has India published a formal paper on the Millennium Development Goals (2000-2015) and India's rate of success?

China has published many official papers since 2015 (the end of MDG).

I will ask my students to comparatively analyze the success and failure of India and China with respect to Millennium Development Goals. Weirdly enough, I could not locate much official data on part of India. Even I type India, China's results will show up.

 

[Chhatrapati]

I will ask an off-topic question. Has India published a formal paper on the Millennium Development Goals (2000-2015) and India's rate of success?

China has published many official papers since 2015 (the end of MDG).

I will ask my students to comparatively analyze the success and failure of India and China with respect to Millennium Development Goals. Weirdly enough, I could not locate much official data on part of India. Even I type India, China's results will show up.

That's a non-issue in the thread. If you want, you can start another thread about success of China and failure of India on the part. The thread is not about India, it was opened by an Indian. While most of you, as usual are targeting the nationality of OP.