Imran Khan wins America

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

But that was not official line until now.
And if it has been accepted as official line...
That means Dr Shakeel Afreedi is either innocent or he was working for ISI ( Government).

Then why he is in jail ???
And most prodding question is ...
Who will return his life spent in jail ???
Moreover...
Is Pakistan government going to release and compensate him now ???

Thanks for responding.

@Arsalan can I open a separate thread for this news ??
As this topic demands comprehensive discussion.

Killing 300 terrorists in Balakot and shooting down an F-16 deserves an even MORE comprehensive discussion........

 

[cloud4000]

And those that belong to the race and nation that calls for the death and destruction of the Pakistani race and nation wouldn't say anything else......................but then AGAIN you guys also claimed to have killed over 300 terrorists in Balakot and shot down an F-16.......

I agree. Both India and Pakistan are delusional in their own way. Pakistan with regards to IK and India with Modi. Both are considered superman who can deliver the impossible. All I'm saying is that the expectations should be realistic.

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Breaking News: https://tribune.com.pk/story/2019293/1-trump-accepts-pm-imran-invitation-pakistan-visit/

Donald Trump have accepted Imran Khan's invitation to "Naya Pakistan."

Stay tuned.

POTUS does this with almost every foreign dignitary that visits the WH. Nevertheless, if Pakistan can deliver peace in Afghanistan, I have no doubt Trump will go to Pakistan...but not before.

We know what happens next. Pakistan will deliver peace in Afghanistan and Trump will get a second term.

Partially right. Bread and butter issues are what will get Trump re-elected and whether or not Democrats can offer a viable candidate against him. But the election is a long way off and anything can happen.

I don't know about the writer but your *** is definitely on fire.

I like Imran Khan. I think he's a net good for Pakistan, especially compared to what came before him. Nevertheless, the writer of the article is clearly overstating that IK conquered American hearts and minds with one visit. The writer based it on seeing a handful of white faces at IK's rally. Hardly credible evidence.

If IK can help deliver peace in Afghanistan and give US an "honorable" exit, his reputation -- and Pakistan's -- will soar in US. But not before that.

 

[ghazi52]

Live
Pakistani PM Imran Khan address to USA Institute of Peace

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I agree. Both India and Pakistan are delusional in their own way. Pakistan with regards to IK and India with Modi. Both are considered superman who can deliver the impossible. All I'm saying is that the expectations should be realistic.



POTUS does this with almost every foreign dignitary that visits the WH. Nevertheless, if Pakistan can deliver peace in Afghanistan, I have no doubt Trump will go to Pakistan...but not before.



Partially right. Bread and butter issues are what will get Trump re-elected and whether or not Democrats can offer a viable candidate against him. But the election is a long way off and anything can happen.



I like Imran Khan. I think he's a net good for Pakistan, especially compared to what came before him. Nevertheless, the writer of the article is clearly overstating that IK conquered American hearts and minds with one visit. The writer based it on seeing a handful of white faces at IK's rally. Hardly credible evidence.

If IK can help deliver peace in Afghanistan and give US an "honorable" exit, his reputation -- and Pakistan's -- will soar in US. But not before that.

You expect me and other Pakistanis to believe someone like you who belongs to the race and nation that calls for the death and destruction of the Pakistani race and nation??????..........someone who is also a member of the ilk who claims to have killed over 300 terrorists in Balakot and shot down an F-16??????.........WTF!!!!!!!!...............someone like you can NEVER be impartial when talking about Pakistan or Pakistanis........

 

[Republic]

Because he bypassed local authorities.. Had he told them about his own investigations, he would have been told by the authorities that they are already working on the case..

This is a simple case of treason where someone bypasses the local laws and agencies..

That was the official line from the very start, that ISI provided certain information to CIA, which helped trace Osama bin Laden.



I am sorry, your argument is not correct and valid. Intelligence agencies, of different countries, provide information and extend cooperation, to each other, in their official capacities. Even such cooperation, occasionally, exists between RAW and ISI. But, the same is not allowed, under the law, to the private citizens of a country.

Killing 300 terrorists in Balakot and shooting down an F-16 deserves an even MORE comprehensive discussion........

That was the official line from the very start, that ISI provided certain information to CIA, which helped trace Osama bin Laden.



I am sorry, your argument is not correct and valid. Intelligence agencies, of different countries, provide information and extend cooperation, to each other, in their official capacities. Even such cooperation, occasionally, exists between RAW and ISI. But, the same is not allowed, under the law, to the private citizens of a country.

It's all right if you guys are satisfied. After all it's your country. You have to live in it.
I conveyed what I thought best in all honesty.
Wish you good luck.

 

[Meengla]

A great moment for Pakistan! One take away--which many of you on PDF will deny--is that after praising M.A. Jinnah as the only true leader in Pakistan--Imran Khan realized he had omitted Zulfi Bhutto and he brought up Zulfi's name as another great leader in Pakistan's history. Imran also frequently praises General Ayub Khan. In fact, Imran Khan and his team frequently praise Jinnah, Ayub, and Bhutto and generally don't criticize Musharraf much. Tells you something, don't it.

Those who do real work for a nation live in eternities, despite their faults. There are no perfect leaders. And perhaps there never should be: Great persons and great leaders should have faults, having to intellectually migrate from some lesser stature in life and morals to higher ones.

It's all Off Topic, of course...

 

[Kaniska]

ISI info helped CIA track down Osama: Imran Khan.

Is it right ???
If so, is it a new stance of Pakistan in Laden episode ?

“If you ask CIA it was ISI which gave the initial location through the phone connection”
Pakistan’s powerful spy agency ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence) provided information to the CIA which helped the U.S. track down and kill former al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden, Prime Minister Imran Khan said on July 22 in a significant revelation as Islamabad had so far denied having any knowledge of the terror chief until he was shot dead in 2011.
Khan, who is visiting Washington on his maiden official trip, revealed this during an interview with Fox News when he was asked whether his country would release jailed Pakistani surgeon Shakeel Afridi who helped the CIA track down Osama.

Khan’s statement is significant because Pakistan had so far denied that it had any information about the hideout of Osama before he was killed in a covert raid by a U.S. Navy SEAL team in Abbottabad, a garrison town north of Islamabad, on May 2, 2011.

“It was ISI that gave the information which led to the location of Osama bin Laden. If you ask CIA it was ISI which gave the initial location through the phone connection,” Khan said.

Responding to questions, Khan was reluctant to give any commitment on the release of Pakistani doctor Afridi. U.S. President Donald Trump is seeking his release. Khan said that the release of Afridi is an “emotive issue” for Pakistan as in Pakistan he is considered a spy for the U.S.
Fighting the war against terrorism
“We in Pakistan always felt that we were an ally of the U.S. and if we had been given the information about Osama, we should have taken him out”, he said. Khan said that Pakistan was fighting the war against terrorism for the U.S. The raid and killing of Osama, he said “hugely embarrassed Pakistan”.

“Here we were an ally of the U.S. and the U.S. did not trust us. And they actually came and bombed and killed a man in our territory”, Khan said. When pointed out that Osama was not just a man, but a terrorist who killed more than 3,000 Americans, Khan said that Pakistan lost 70,000 people in this fight. “We were fighting this war for the US and we lost all these people fighting this war. So there was obviously a lot of anger about the way this whole thing was done. But you know, that’s all in the past.”

When the interviewer said, “You are the Prime Minister, you can make a decision catch”, Khan said, “There’s some decisions...which even a Prime Minister finds it difficult, because we do have an opposition. But this is something that can be negotiated over time.”

https://www.thehindu.com/news/inter...n/article28671278.ece?utm_campaign=socialflow

It is nothing new...Imran Khan is just putting the facts is brave leader who is not doing any double speak unlike previous leaders of Pakistan...

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

It's all right if you guys are satisfied. After all it's your country. You have to live in it.
I conveyed what I thought best in all honesty.
Wish you good luck.

You conveyed the thoughts as a member of the race and nation that calls for the death and destruction of the Pakistani race and nation. Therefore your opinions are racist by nature as well as being null and void.

 

[jericho]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1153718515901358080

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1153718515901358080

I wish people like Maryam Sharif would speak the truth for ONCE in their lives. What she really meant to say was, "Mr Khan, you are far too honest, good and a brilliant leader. Something me and my father could never be in a million years. But you are depriving us of looting Pakistan of billions of dollars. Could you PLEASE let us carry on with our corrupt practices."

It is nothing new...Imran Khan is just putting the facts is brave leader who is not doing any double speak unlike previous leaders of Pakistan...

Because indian leaders never lie or do doublespeak. Like claiming to have killed over 300 terrorists in Balakot and shooting down an F-16.............

 

[Republic]

You conveyed the thoughts as a member of the race and nation that calls for the death and destruction of the Pakistani race and nation. Therefore your opinions are racist by nature as well as being null and void.

From your average comments you look like a juvenile. You have to live a longer life, meet thousands of people and read a hell lot o books written by the writers of different countries to understand things in a bigger and clear perspective.
Thanks for engaging but I am not of your age.
Regards.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

From your average comments you look like a juvenile. You have to live a longer life, meet thousands of people and read a hell lot o books written by the writers of different countries to understand things in a bigger and clear perspective.
Thanks for engaging but I am not of your age.
Regards.

So according to you, indians are not biased against Pakistan and Pakistanis?........