Imran Khan look 'drained, trapped & hopeless' facing 200+ Bogus Cases | While 25 Crore Pakistanis are in dead sleep, facing all the evil in-justices

[muz20152]

When is the election?

2200

 

[Meengla]

The PTI team interpreted the constitution on the matter of a parliamentary procedure to bypass a Vote of No Confidence. They did so with the aim of dismissing the assemblies and going for elections to get a fresh mandate from the people - the goal was not to undermine democracy, but to go back to the people of Pakistan to have them decide in free and fair elections.

There you go again with your 'interpretation' of the law! Well, firstly, once an NCM is tabled, it HAS to be voted on. And if it is not then that's a violation of the Const. of Pakistan.

Imran wanted fresh elections? Then he had the right to dismiss the Assemblies before the NCM was tabled. But he didn't. Why? Because he was not as popular as he became after parroting his anti-American rhetoric. In fact, Imran was losing byelections before the NCM drama began.
Imran, the loser, played an unnecessary dirty game with the Const. of Pakistan by 'interpreting' the Const. If laws so fundamental to Pakistan's democracy are so open to the 'interpretations' of sitting PM then there is no need for those laws. Even Imran's supposed friends in the judiciary couldn't accept that.
It is YOU and other Imran followers who are the disingeneous ones. You conveniently 'interpret' laws when it suits you. The same is being done by the PDM now. Karma is a bitch!

 

[SecularNationalist]

Only who collects Rs 100 will think like that.

I know you are more worthy. Besides Rs100 you give marium nawaz a Cunnilingus.

 

[ghazi52]

,.,.,.
If this group has to fix the country, then who did the damage??

 

[Riz]

No single Pakistan did as much damage to Pakistan as what IK did.

He single handedly destroyed Pakistan's relations with Top 3 allies of Pakistan.

Desttroyed relations with the USA by supporting Taliban

Destroyed relations with KSA by trying to weaken KSA's leadership in OIC

Destroyed relations with China by trying to kill CPEC.

And add to that he can't stop himself from praising Pakistan's mortal enemy India.

Good Riddance!

Mods Is khoti k buchy ko koi patta dalo ya iski maan behn aik karna shuro kar dain hum sab ?
Lakh lanat tari shakal tay paaain oddaaa

 

[PradoTLC]

He is not the good guy y'all think he is...

says the who and who of criminals...lol

 

[alphapak]

IK is supported by the Jewish lobby but he would say or do things against the West to implicate Pakistam.

Napak Generals are in bed with this Jewish lobby, they are even buying
cellphone hacking tech from this jewish lobby to control the awaam even more.

 

[Meengla]

Personaly i believe, he is too immature to lead Pakistan as politician as similar to Rahul Gandhi. His performance of 3 and half years one of the nothing to showcase...

Pakistan should look beyond bhutto, sharif and imran for the better future.

That's what Pakistani political class is and I don't make a distinction between those who wear the uniform or those who don't: They basically come from Punjab and have deep, generation old ties. They co-opt each other. Intermarry. They are all opportunistic. The Pakistani military is cut from the same cloth as the civilian ruling class of Punjab--they are the same and that point is to be really noted because it dents Imran's false, opportunist rhetoric about the 'Establishment'--a rhetoric he only started after he lost power.

Also, we exaggerate the negative affects of 'dynastic' politics. India was ruled by the Nehru dynasty for most of its history but India progressed despite all the 'corruption' etc. And some people accuse the Modi/BJP of massive corruption. And I think some years ago it was reported that 1/3rd of Indian Parliamentarians have actual criminal cases against them.

But India still progressed. And so has BD, especially since the stability under Haseena.

I believe countries who manage peaceful transfers of power are the ones who come out ahead, despite their 'corrupt' ruling class. Political stability is the key to economic growth. And for that, at least some level of acceptance of 'the other' is needed. In case of Pakistan, Imran has been capitalizing on the perception created by both the Noonis and the PPP since the 1980s against each other-- about 4 decades of propaganda against each other, aided by the Establishment. And hence people, including me once, started to believe in a new Messiah.

But our new Messiah has severe personality disorders. And doesn't believe in any constraints upon him. At least Trump was constrained by the Republican Party and the American legal system. Here, the Pakistani Messiah had his backers in the Military and the Judiciary and he acted like he did, with catastrophic results for himself.

Do you want to know the really inept political class? Look at Sri Lanka. A tiny island country with no external enemies to take the focus away from internal requirements. A country with higher level of education than Pakistan. And yet they are still in shambles. THAT is 'corruption'. What Pakistan had/has is just another poor country corruption like in many many other poor countries but unfortunately that had become THE issue for Imran Khan in his quest to squash all political opponents. Governance like Erdogan of 2003 was needed. Not witchhunting. That was the mistake!

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I only want to believe in claims that are supported by evidence.

You’re not a third party but someone who has paid absolutely no attention to what has been going on in Pakistan for the last 1.5 years, whether it is the outright refusal of the PDM to hold provincial elections per the constitution after ordered by the Supreme Court or the blatant disregard for court order after court order releasing innocent political prisoners and the fascist crackdowns that are clearly caught on CCTV and mobile phones and all over social media.

Even the Fauj+PDM Junta supporters in the media don’t try to pretend that none of that occurred, hiding instead behind disingenuous arguments of WHY IK was ousted unconstitutionally and that ‘he brought the fascist crackdown upon himself’.

So, you’re either ignorant of the facts or are pretending to be ignorant, and in both cases you have no business commenting and poisoning this discourse. Go brush up on whats happening in Pakistan and the ‘facts on the ground’ first.

 

[Path-Finder]

Same response as the one above to Raj:

Whatever you think of IK & the PTI, the decision should be left up to the people to decide in free and fair elections, which can only happen once the witch-hunt against the PTI by the fascist Fauj+PDM Junta ends and once the Fauj goes back to the barracks and accepts civilian supremacy.

The issue here is bigger than just Imran Khan and the PTI, it is about democracy, freedom, rule of law and civilian supremacy.

Meengla is a GHQ mole. it knew beforehand what bajwa was doing.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

There you go again with your 'interpretation' of the law! Well, firstly, once an NCM is tabled, it HAS to be voted on. And if it is not then that's a violation of the Const. of Pakistan.

No, it is not a violation of the constitution if done based on the views of legal experts - the issue goes to court, the court rules and only at that point if any of the parties refuses to follow the court orders could it be considered a violation.

Had the issue been clear cut, the Supreme Court would not have heard arguments from all parties to the case and issued a ruling.

What is a clear violation is the Fauj+PDM government outright refusing to implement Supreme Court and lower court orders, as I outlined earlier.

Meengla is a GHQ mole. it knew beforehand what bajwa was doing.

No one would make the arguments Meengla is making unless they were on the Fauj+PDM payroll.

Well, no one except the Indians spewing their usual poison and engaging in retarded attempts to undermine democracy in Pakistan by attacking IK - as I pointed out before, they’ve made the Pak Fauj their new bhagwan - anything that undermines and damages Pakistan.

It makes sense (opposing IK) from the Indian perspective, a politicized, corrupt Pak Fauj that tramples over the constitution and installs a corrupt puppet government will never be an effective fighting force and will continue preventing Pakistan from progressing and containing Indian hegemony in the region.

 

[Path-Finder]

No one (except the Indians spewing their usual poison and engaging in retarded attempts to undermine democracy in Pakistan by attacking IK) would make the arguments Meengla is making unless they were on the Fauj+PDM payroll.

Not sure if you saw that thread meengla made as if it had an ephiany and out of the blue started a tirade against IK. today we can safely deduce that its rabid hound of the military junta. I mean how else does one get the foresight of what bajwa is doing?

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Not sure if you saw that thread meengla made as if it had an ephiany and out of the blue started a tirade against IK. today we can safely deduce that its rabid hound of the military junta. I mean how else does one get the foresight of what bajwa is doing?

I did not. Link by any chance?

 

[ziaulislam]

No, it is not a violation of the constitution if done based on the views of legal experts - the issue goes to court, the court rules and only at that point if any of the parties refuses to follow the court orders could it be considered a violation.

Had the issue been clear cut, the Supreme Court would not have heard arguments from all parties to the case and issued a ruling.

What is a clear violation is the Fauj+PDM government outright refusing to implement Supreme Court and lower court orders, as I outlined earlier.


No one would make the arguments Meengla is making unless they were on the Fauj+PDM payroll.

Well, no one except the Indians spewing their usual poison and engaging in retarded attempts to undermine democracy in Pakistan by attacking IK - as I pointed out before, they’ve made the Pak Fauj their new bhagwan - anything that undermines and damages Pakistan.

It makes sense (opposing IK) from the Indian perspective, a politicized, corrupt Pak Fauj that tramples over the constitution and installs a corrupt puppet government will never be an effective fighting force and will continue preventing Pakistan from progressing and containing Indian hegemony in the region.

You are wasting your breath
Some people just hate other people..they just dislike them

Just like how people hated Muhammad Ali Jinnah and many other leaders in past for no reason

Meengla is a GHQ mole. it knew beforehand what bajwa was doing.

But then most of population is okay with it
They are okay with army ruling directly or indirectly

 

[PakAlp]

Great post.
Sums up well. Especially coming from you, who, I presume, is still an Imran admirer. Unfortunately, you have spoken too much truth for this forum.

Imran Khan made mistakes but he also came to politics to make a difference, what other options do we have, Altaf, Fazlur rehman, Bilawal, Zardari, Maryum, Nawaz. They have been ruling for 30+ years and Pakistan is still full of corruption, they never promoted any long term policies to make Pakistan the Asian tiger. I only hope IK learns from the mistakes and comes back strong, now all the electables and dacoits left his party, let's see what happens in the elections, will the ideological workers of Pti win elections? History says no chance. IK should train his successors of leadership, learn from all his mistakes, try to make amends with the establishment, promote clean politics rather than hatred and name calling, and then fight the elections, even if he looses then sit in the opposition, slowly train his workers. You gave a great example of BJP, even if Modi goes, BJP will bring more good leadership for India but in Pakistan we don't have that, we are decades behind.