Imran Khan likely to visit Bangladesh in May

[VikingRaider]

By Mullahs, you mean allies of Pakistan during 1971.

We are not interested in that kind of dawn.

We have a different mindset from you guys and different ground reality, let's not compare apples to oranges.

Some comments by BD in this thread on Afghanistan and Pakistan reeks of propaganda and misinformation.

Getting back to the topic, for normalization of ties 1971 needs to be buried, BD must change stance on Kashmir, and ready to kick India a few times, which means Hasina has to go first.

Who said that only mullahs supported Pakistan? Many others supported Pakistan too. The problem is you guys are heavily influenced by some mullahs who pretend to be Pakistan lover but worked against the creation of Pakistan during 1947.

Listen carefully, many Qawami ( deobandi) ulama fight against Pakistan in our freedom fight. And still most of Qawamis are against jamat Islam. Besides many many people who are seculars were the supporters of Pakistan contrary to popular belief.

But it's the jamati mullahs who spread the propaganda that 1971 war was between India and Pakistan, between Hindu and Muslim but unfortunately we do not care about the propaganda.

However the same propaganda is popular among Pakistanis too I see. But it's a dirty propaganda that spread by both India and jamat Islam.

And yes no dawn is near as all as the propaganda prevail. Indians and jamatis are successfully ruined and dividing and ruling us.

The reality is, 1971 war was between East Pakistan vs west Pakistan and the aftermath was the independence of East Pakistan and taking a new name Bangladesh. It was never ever the war between Islam and kuffar or India vs Pakistan.

BTW, for you kind information, I don't dislike jamat because of 1971, I dislike jamat because of 2013-2015 massacre.

I don't dislike jamat because of 1971 because I was born in 1984 that is more than a decade after 1971. I said it several times. 1971 is not alive in majority Bangladeshi mind, but I see that it's still alive in the mind of Pakistanis.
@Pan-Islamic-Pakistan

Getting back to the topic, for normalization of ties 1971 needs to be buried, BD must change stance on Kashmir, and ready to kick India a few times, which means Hasina has to go first.

Missed this point ( bold part) before. Bangladesh will not change it's official neutral stance on Kashmir on any pressure from outside, although common Bangladeshis will keep supporting Kashmiris.
And about Hasina I can assure you that she will stay as long as we want. We don't care what others want. Hasina is a patriotic woman and doing great for Bangladesh. Case closed.

@Pan-Islamic-Pakistan

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Pakistan has more to loose if Imran Khan does not come. This is not the other way around. After OIC this is the biggest Muslim platform.

"Lose" what exactly?

Is Bangladesh going to condemn Indian Annexation of Muslim Kashmir?

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Who said that only mullahs supported Pakistan? Many others supported Pakistan too. The problem is you guys are heavily influenced by some mullahs who pretend go be Pakistan lover but worked against the creation of Pakistan during 1947.

Listen carefully, many Qawami ( deobandi) ulama fight against Pakistan in our freedom fight. And still most of Qawamis are against jamat Islam. Besides many many people who are seculars were the supporters of Pakistan contrary to popular belief.

But it's the jamati mullahs who spread the propaganda that 1971 war was between India and Pakistan, between Hindu and Muslim but unfortunately we do not care about the propaganda.

However the same propaganda is popular among Pakistanis too I see. But it's a dirty propaganda that spread by both India and jamat Islam.

And yes no dawn is near as all as the propaganda prevail. Indians and jamatis are successfully ruined and dividing and ruling us.

The reality is, 1971 war was between East Pakistan vs west Pakistan and the aftermath was the independence of East Pakistan and taking a new name Bangladesh. It was never ever the war between Islam and kuffar or India vs Pakistan.

BTW, for you kind information, I don't dislike jamat because of 1971, I dislike jamat because of 2013-2015 massacre.

I don't dislike jamat 1971 because I was born in 1984 that is more than a decade after 1971. I said it several times. 1971 is not alive in majority Bangladeshi mind, but I see that it's still alive in the mind of Pakistanis.
@Pan-Islamic-Pakistan

Nothing is going to be resolved with us arguing amongst each other. Experience of both countries and geopolitical landscapes are totally different.

BD members need to understand that the culture of Pakistan/Afghanistan is different. It is almost like we are in a different continent.

It is good news BD economy is doing well, we wish you the best. There is no hate among Pakistanis for BD.

However, our internal and external paradigms are different. Pakistan's route to success will have to be different.

 

[VikingRaider]

It is good news BD economy is doing well, we wish you the best. There is no hate among Pakistanis for BD

Thanks, same feelings here!

However, our internal and external paradigms are different. Pakistan's route to success will have to be different.

Wishing your success whole heartedly!

 

[Shahzaz ud din]

PMIK should visit BD.If possible COAS and ISI chief should accompany him.

Ok American


At the end, it’s up to Imran khan to decide. Unless childish emotional keyboard warrior has a say in what he does

Thanks, same feelings here!

Wishing your success whole heartedly!

 

[VikingRaider]

 

[Michael Corleone]

I always remain silent in such controversial cases so I replied with ' no comments' to him. Because every papers and opinions can not be authentic necessarily since everything is based on assumption and analysis. All I want a safe and protected Bangladesh and I don't want to know the cost. We saw that Bangladesh is improving day by day comparing 2001-2006 dark regime and I am fine with it.

Something in this world are better left forgotten and unknown and this is one of such cases I believe. Too much bravery can be harmful for evolution, fear can be useful.

But one thing I am oversure and that is raw or India never had any hold on our armed forces authority and will never have any hold or influence. I can bet my life on it. Because if India had any influence on our armed forces, we would not remain sovereign.

If his claims are backed up by legitimate sources i would have known about it already...
This is why I asked in case he proves me wrong

 

[VikingRaider]

If his claims are backed up by legitimate sources i would have known about it already...
This is why I asked in case he proves me wrong

Even let's assume his assumption is true ( let's assume for the sake of argument) , still even only 5% of military personnel will know it in a deep state system ( same for Ziaul Haq case) , let alone the civilians. That's why I remain silent and also don't want to dig in deeper.

If we ( civilians) know it ( anything that is suspected) or can prove with evidences, the point of deep state will be useless.
@Michael Corleone

 

[Old School]

If his claims are backed up by legitimate sources i would have known about it already...
This is why I asked in case he proves me wrong

Feel free to say how much you know about this case. Another anniversary is right at the corner. Let us discuss as you seem to have very deep level sources.

Even let's assume his assumption is true ( let's assume for the sake of argument) , still even only 5% of military personnel will know it in a deep state system ( same for Ziaul Haq case) , let alone the civilians. That's why I remain silent and also don't want to dig in deeper.

If we ( civilians) know it ( anything that is suspected) or can prove with evidences, the point of deep state will be useless.
@Michael Corleone

No assumptions. I mentioned the facts.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Even let's assume his assumption is true ( let's assume for the sake of argument) , still even only 5% of military personnel will know it in a deep state system ( same for Ziaul Haq case) , let alone the civilians. That's why I remain silent and also don't want to dig in deeper.

If we ( civilians) know it ( anything that is suspected) or can prove with evidences, the point of deep state will be useless.
@Michael Corleone

True. If someone intends to remain alive it’s best he doesn’t whisper to the walls of things he knows

 

[VikingRaider]

No assumptions. I mentioned the facts.

Brother, I respect you but I will only take your words if you can prove yourself as one of the highest officials of ISI. As I believe only high officials of intelligence agencies maybe know the reality. So let's not discuss this topic forward. Thanks and best regards.

 

[Old School]

Brother, I respect you but I will only take your words if you can prove yourself as one of the highest officials of ISI. As I believe only high officials of intelligence agencies maybe know the reality. So let's not discuss this topic forward. Thanks and best regards.

Isn't it an appeal to authority which is a logical fallacy? Intel officers are trained to lie too. While there are many Bengali witnesses, why do you want ISI to reveal a BD crime ?

 

[VikingRaider]

True. If someone intends to remain alive it’s best he doesn’t whisper to the walls of things he knows

Yes even who doesn't know it, they don't want to discuss it considering it ( deep state works) as taboo. Why do we need to discuss when we are fine and living a happy life? They are doing good for our motherland and we are happy with it. Somethings really should be avoided in discussion since there is no real reason to know it.
We only will hope for the best and we want Bangladesh to be elevated.

I support their every steps that benefit Bangladesh. That's all.

Isn't it an appeal to authority which is a logical fallacy? Intel officers are trained to lie too. While there are many Bengali witnesses, why do you want ISI to reveal a BD crime ?

I want nothing. I know that no professional ( from any intelligence) will publish such things if there is any truth. And that's why I said so. And I also disagree with your word, "BD crime" . As I will not going to accept any accusation without evidences and I know providing evidences for any accusation isn't possible. And about Bengali witnesses? I know how to buy fake witnesses with money! So let's end this topic here.

 

[Old School]

Yes even who doesn't know it, they don't want to discuss it considering it ( deep state works) as taboo. Why do we need to discuss when we are fine and living a happy life? They are doing good for our motherland and we are happy with it. Somethings really should be avoided in discussion since there is no real reason to know it.
We only will hope for the best and we want Bangladesh to be elevated.

I support their every steps that benefit Bangladesh. That's all.


I want nothing. I know that no professional will publish such things if that is the truth.

Pakistan government was wrongfully implicated in that incident by BD and Indian disinformation campaigns. It is no longer a BD only affair. . Pakistan should not be used as a punching bag for the sake of BD domestic politics. There will be some reactions from Pakistan side in the coming days.

 

[VikingRaider]

by BD and Indian disinformation campaigns.

You are making a grave mistake.Doesn't matter what is happening in Bangladeshi politics, that's not reality. Reality is completely different.