Imran Khan is a confused man, he don't know politics: Haroon Rasheed

[Pboy]

ok agreed was their incompetence but i dun ignore the other factors....10 year long terrorism can not be dealt with so easily....the most powerful forces of the world ie American Forces cudnt deal them easily in Afghanistan so how cud PTI in just two Months?

the several warning were given just two days b4 not even weeks or month so see da difference!

You're not understanding my point. I never said that they should or are able to eradicate all terrorism in days, but they can atleast try to!

When ISI tells you about a possible jail break then you DO whatever you can to avoid that right away! You DO NOT wait, you act right away. You need to be proactive as anything can happen at any time!

The problem with PTI was that they were not lazy, they just didnt care! They didnt see the report or the warnings as anything substantial and what happened in the end? They were proved wrong and now the whole province and the people there have to pay for it since dozens of terrorists and criminals are roaming free. Terrorists which were convicted and given a sentence or those who awaited a trial.

Dangerous people. Very dangerous people who loves to spread fear and terror and have no issues with blowing up several innoncent people.

This is what ANP was critisised for. This is what IK bashed ANP and their leaders for and now he and his party and doing the exact same thing.

1. Asking for an army withdrawal from a province where security are needed and where civil authorities need training and are not capable of running the show all alone. Why the hell would someone ask the army which provides security to get out of there? Where is the logic in that?

2. Imran Khan blaming all on foreign elements and not TTP since TTP are our "friends" who are willing to have peace talks. How can you have peace talks with guys who has a proven history of backtracking their deals and comments? How on earth are TTP trusthworthy?

3. IK hoping for TTP to open an office in the province. Wow! Great news! Let the terrorists open offices. Let the people who have lost their dear ones see such terrorists open offices infront of their eyes!

What a great strategy!


The problem I have with PTI and many of their supporters in general(dont forget that I supported PTI in the elections) is that when PTI does something great then they are hailed and when they do something wrong then they turn a blind eye to it and tries to justify it by pointing out fingers at others and what they did.

Thats a problem we have had for sooooooooooooooooooooooo many years. Instead of accepting responsibility and working to improve, all our politicans from all possible parties are busy in blaming eachother or others.

PML-Ns and PTIs and other parties strategy of peace talks wont work because the history shows it.

You need to trust the other part in such talks and negotiations and can we trust TTP?

Put a hand on your heart and think about all those who has suffered, been killed, been torturued by those animals and say that we can trust them?

Can you do that? Can any do that? Can IK do that? Can NS do that?

No one can do that. No one in the entire country except hypocrites or those with an apparent agenda can do that and that is the sad truth which so many are simply either failing to see or do not want to see.

With that, I rest my case.

 

[Patriots]

PPP is a grass root party? bro its a feudal's party!

IK doesnt just talk ,hes more of a practicle guy but he cudnt change everything by being in one provinnce where there even he can not work freely due to terrorism factor involved....its in PMLN hand completely to deal with it first hand!

how can you bring investment in KPK if terrorism is there

no peace

no economy

nothing...

Now PPP is fuedal's party not in 1970 while Bhutto formed & organized it ... I told you it raised from grass root ... If PTI will made to KPK a model province then I think I could vote for them ..........

If PTI can't do this due to present problems then they should stop bashing to MQM due to last five years mess in Karachi ...........

 

[Marshmallow]

You're not understanding my point. I never said that they should or are able to eradicate all terrorism in days, but they can atleast try to!

When ISI tells you about a possible jail break then you DO whatever you can to avoid that right away! You DO NOT wait, you act right away. You need to be proactive as anything can happen at any time!

The problem with PTI was that they were not lazy, they just didnt care! They didnt see the report or the warnings as anything substantial and what happened in the end? They were proved wrong and now the whole province and the people there have to pay for it since dozens of terrorists and criminals are roaming free. Terrorists which were convicted and given a sentence or those who awaited a trial.

Dangerous people. Very dangerous people who loves to spread fear and terror and have no issues with blowing up several innoncent people.

This is what ANP was critisised for. This is what IK bashed ANP and their leaders for and now he and his party and doing the exact same thing.

1. Asking for an army withdrawal from a province where security are needed and where civil authorities need training and are not capable of running the show all alone. Why the hell would someone ask the army which provides security to get out of there? Where is the logic in that?

2. Imran Khan blaming all on foreign elements and not TTP since TTP are our "friends" who are willing to have peace talks. How can you have peace talks with guys who has a proven history of backtracking their deals and comments? How on earth are TTP trusthworthy?

3. IK hoping for TTP to open an office in the province. Wow! Great news! Let the terrorists open offices. Let the people who have lost their dear ones see such terrorists open offices infront of their eyes!

What a great strategy!


The problem I have with PTI and many of their supporters in general(dont forget that I supported PTI in the elections) is that when PTI does something great then they are hailed and when they do something wrong then they turn a blind eye to it and tries to justify it by pointing out fingers at others and what they did.

Thats a problem we have had for sooooooooooooooooooooooo many years. Instead of accepting responsibility and working to improve, all our politicans from all possible parties are busy in blaming eachother or others.

PML-Ns and PTIs and other parties strategy of peace talks wont work because the history shows it.

You need to trust the other part in such talks and negotiations and can we trust TTP?

Put a hand on your heart and think about all those who has suffered, been killed, been torturued by those animals and say that we can trust them?

Can you do that? Can any do that? Can IK do that? Can NS do that?

No one can do that. No one in the entire country except hypocrites or those with an apparent agenda can do that and that is the sad truth which so many are simply either failing to see or do not want to see.

With that, I rest my case.

i said it was their incompetence...IK also has accepted it dint you hear his statement? but he also discussed other factors involved?

1-Army withdrawal is not from a province but from some parts....

2-o boy he condemns those who are not willing for peace talks n want to continue terrorism....he asks to deal with them with force if they wanna continue...what da hell is da solution then if afta 10 plus years you ppl were using force n wars n still cudnt manage anything? sane ppl wud go for 2nd option like US now is doing in afghanistan...TALKS! atleast give it a sincere try then nobudy wud raise any question!

3-IK asking for an office only for those who are willing to sit on table....not for the killers! u are not getting it...by allowing them to open an office will also force them to leave terrorist activities n those willing to leave it wud finally be differentiated wid actual terrorists or rigid minds...it will then be easy to deal with them....it will create diferrences n divisions between them so which is in our favur dun u get?

you ppl only talk the lang of force n voilence....its very complicated matter so when da force of ten plus long years cudnt work so we now have to adopt other options otherwise keep losing ppl,land etc

 

[Marshmallow]

Now PPP is fuedal's party not in 1970 while Bhutto formed & organized it ... I told you it raised from grass root ... If PTI will made to KPK a model province then I think I could vote for them ..........

If PTI can't do this due to present problems then they should stop bashing to MQM due to last five years mess in Karachi ...........

o really i dint know it cuz i wasnt there in 1970

jk

yeyy@If PTI will made to KPK a model province then I think I could vote for them atleast i made u vote for PTI in next elections

now dun take back ur decision

 

[Durrak]

Can you tell Ik to stop interfering in SIndh? The people of Sindh did not give him the right to rule them.

How can you talk on behalf of everyone ?? ...

 

[Pboy]

i said it was their incompetence...IK also has accepted it dint you hear his statement? but he also discussed other factors involved?

1-Army withdrawal is not from a province but from some parts....

2-o boy he condemns those who are not willing for peace talks n want to continue terrorism....he asks to deal with them with force if they wanna continue...what da hell is da solution then if afta 10 plus years you ppl were using force n wars n still cudnt manage anything? sane ppl wud go for 2nd option like US now is doing in afghanistan...TALKS! atleast give it a sincere try then nobudy wud raise any question!

3-IK asking for an office only for those who are willing to sit on table....not for the killers! u are not getting it...by allowing them to open an office will also force them to leave terrorist activities n those willing to leave it wud finally be differentiated wid actual terrorists or rigid minds...it will then be easy to deal with them....it will create diferrences n divisions between them so which is in our favur dun u get?

you ppl only talk the lang of force n voilence....its very complicated matter so when da force of ten plus long years cudnt work so we now have to adopt other options otherwise keep losing ppl,land etc

1. Why? Why are they trying to remove them even if it is from some parts? Today its some parts, tomorrow it is the entire province? Why? How do you improve security? By keeping them away?

2. Of course he condemns such acts. The problem is that he and other political leaders from other parties are not willing to accept that those guys fall under TTP so in that case, talks are not of any use. Talks didnt work in Swat. Talks didnt work in Tirah Valley so how do you expect talks to succeed in KPK and tribal areas north west?

US forces will leave Afghanistan. Most US citizen will leave Afghanistan. They will leave the country hence the talks there. Pak army is going nowhere. Women, men, children in Pakistan are going nowhere. Its a completely different scenario. US have nothing to lose, but gain. We have everything to lose by being stubborn with such an approach.

3. Those who want to talk are the people who sends their mercenaries on a killing spree. How can you even differeniate betweem them at all? How do you expect to get rid of radical elements if you're going to allow them to open up an office which can be used for recruitment purposes!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Patriots]

o really i dint know it cuz i wasnt there in 1970

jk

yeyy@If PTI will made to KPK a model province then I think I could vote for them atleast i made u vote for PTI in next elections

now dun take back ur decision

I too was not in 1970 there

 

[Marshmallow]

1. Why? Why are they trying to remove them even if it is from some parts? Today its some parts, tomorrow it is the entire province? Why? How do you improve security? By keeping them away?

2. Of course he condemns such acts. The problem is that he and other political leaders from other parties are not willing to accept that those guys fall under TTP so in that case, talks are not of any use. Talks didnt work in Swat. Talks didnt work in Tirah Valley so how do you expect talks to succeed in KPK and tribal areas north west?

US forces will leave Afghanistan. Most US citizen will leave Afghanistan. They will leave the country hence the talks there. Pak army is going nowhere. Women, men, children in Pakistan are going nowhere. Its a completely different scenario. US have nothing to lose, but gain. We have everything to lose by being stubborn with such an approach.

3. Those who want to talk are the people who sends their mercenaries on a killing spree. How can you even differeniate betweem them at all? How do you expect to get rid of radical elements if you're going to allow them to open up an office which can be used for recruitment purposes!!!!!!!!!!!!

1- Army has other things to do too....today som parts tommorw u will ask them to build even toilets n supermarkets there haha jk..they alredy in to too many things..working on..wars....floods..earthquakes......IK wants to keep the role of military less there but yes if its still bad ofcourse they gunna be called again...

2-Talks dint work there cuz there were voilations of da peace process/talks thru drones n by some foriegn funded terrorists who dint want peace in our country

3-We can differentiate between them by watching whose on table n whose on gun got it?

US is not going to leave from there....u r very naive!

 

[Durrak]

1-Talks dint work there cuz there were voilations of da peace process/talks thru drones n by some foriegn funded terrorists who dint want peace in our country

US is not going to leave from there....u r very naive!

Drones ... Still we can't control them ..

Their economy is badly affected due to invasion so I guess they will leave soon ..

 

[Pboy]

1- Army has other things to do too....today som parts tommorw u will ask them to build even toilets n supermarkets there haha jk..they alredy in to too many things..working on..wars....floods..earthquakes......IK wants to keep the role of military less there but yes if its still bad ofcourse they gunna be called again...

2-Talks dint work there cuz there were voilations of da peace process/talks thru drones n by some foriegn funded terrorists who dint want peace in our country

3-We can differentiate between them by watching whose on table n whose on gun got it?

US is not going to leave from there....u r very naive!

2. Talks never worked since TTP are mercenaries who are also supported by foreign elements as well as some blood hungry animals. You dont negotiate with such kind of people.

3. Right, since those who sit down with chai and biscuits one day, cannot use a gun the next day. Dear Marshmallow, thats not how it works

And USA will pull out most of their troops soon since they are losing on most fronts in Afghanistan and since they simply cannot afford the war for much long anymore. They will leave a few people behind in different roles, but it will still be seen as a pullout and that they left when they eventually do soon.

But oh well, I guess we can agree to disagree on most points for now, lets see what happens later. I desperately hope that im proven wrong and that the situation improves in Pakistan so lets see.

 

[Marshmallow]

2. Talks never worked since TTP are mercenaries who are also supported by foreign elements as well as some blood hungry animals. You dont negotiate with such kind of people.

3. Right, since those who sit down with chai and biscuits one day, cannot use a gun the next day. Dear Marshmallow, thats not how it works

And USA will pull out most of their troops soon since they are losing on most fronts in Afghanistan and since they simply cannot afford the war for much long anymore. They will leave a few people behind in different roles, but it will still be seen as a pullout and that they left when they eventually do soon.

But oh well, I guess we can agree to disagree on most points for now, lets see what happens later. I desperately hope that im proven wrong and that the situation improves in Pakistan so lets see.

except for da avtar everything else is ok!

 

[Edevelop]

Absolutely agree with Haroon Rasheed !

 

[Marshmallow]

Absolutely agree with Haroon Rasheed !

 

[Edevelop]

Haroon Rasheed is a journalist, not a politician. The fact that he has been around Imran Khan for 18 years should make him more credible. He has come to a conclusion where most Pakistanis knew beforehand. After all the elections were and are always time tested. The truth is PTI supporters have no practical vision and supporting a leader who is in the same premises is just heads hitting a wall.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

The truth is PTI supporters have no practical vision and supporting a leader who is in the same premises is just heads hitting a wall.

Look who is saying...... !!