IMF: China nominal per-capita GDP highest among BRIC in 2016

[Nilgiri]

the estimation of under-nutrition is according to food energy consumption. Chinese people are not interested in eating high-energy food, like milk, cheese and meat. By international standard, many rich Chinese are under-weight and under-nutrition. This is simply a wrong indicator.

So give me a standardised neutral source for your claims then. Same argument can be made of many countries, not just China. If you alter a definition, then you better accommodate the changes to everyone else as well.

come on, many Chinese are doing business or engineering in Venezuela, their experience is : unless you live in wealthy neighborhood, ordinary people in Venezuela can't buy many things even if they have money, let alone a lot of Venezuela people are poor.

Would rather believe international standardised comparisons with proper surveying techniques than a cherry-picked assortment of opinions from some CCCP deployed drones thanks.

Keep trying!

 

[AndrewJin]

the estimation of under-nutrition is according to food energy consumption. Chinese people are not interested in eating high-energy food, like milk, cheese and meat. By international standard, many rich Chinese are under-weight and under-nutrition. This is simply a wrong indicator.

come on, many Chinese are doing business or engineering in Venezuela, their experience is : unless you live in wealthy neighborhood, ordinary people in Venezuela can't buy many things even if they have money, let alone a lot of Venezuela people are poor.

Datas from WHO
May 2014

China: 0.36
India: 4.39
US: 0.58.

Malnutrition is very hard to standardised
but mortality rate because of malnutrition can be easily presented.

Malnutrition is deeply related to life expectancy.

 

[esolve]

So give me a standardised neutral source for your claims then. Same argument can be made of many countries, not just China. If you alter a definition, then you better accommodate the changes to everyone else as well.

Would rather believe international standardised comparisons with proper surveying techniques than a cherry-picked assortment of opinions from some CCCP deployed drones thanks.

Keep trying!

please see the above pic and data: malnutrition death rate. As I told you, Chinese people are slim, and many girls eat very little so as to keep slim. By international standard, they are regarded under-nutrition. This doesn't indicate they are poor. To measure the real malnutrition in different culture(no one would like to kill himself/herself so as to keep slim), the mortality rate because of malnutrition is a better indicator.


no there are no CCP issues involved. There are many Chinese who are doing business abroad, and they have no reason to lie. They will post online on life/pics/price/entertainment of different countries, which is neutral.

 

[AndrewJin]

please see the above pic and data: malnutrition death rate. As I told you, Chinese people are slim, and many girls eat very little so as to keep slim. By international standard, they are regarded under-nutrition. This doesn't indicate they are poor. To measure the real malnutrition in different culture(no one would like to kill himself/herself so as to keep slim), the mortality rate because of malnutrition is a better indicator.


no there are no CCP issues involved. There are many Chinese who are doing business abroad, and they have no reason to lie. They will post online on life/pics/price/entertainment of different countries, which is neutral.

One just need to walk on any Chinese city and Indian city, obvious fact.
Chinese are slim but healthy.
70-80-year old grandmas are jogging, doing taichi, playing badminton or dancing publicly deep at night or in the morning.
Any public space is crowded with people doing exercises.
The Indians I know in China look old and unhealthy, seldom do sports.
Given their life expectancy and abysmal presentation in world sport stages , it can be explained.

 

[esolve]

One just need to walk on any Chinese city and Indian city, obvious fact.
Chinese are slim but healthy.
70-80-year old grandmas are jogging, doing taichi, playing badminton or dancing publicly deep at night or in the morning.
Any public space is crowded with people doing exercises.
The Indians I know in China look old and unhealthy, seldom do sports.
Given their life expectancy and abysmal presentation in world sport stages , it can be explained.

哥们，别比较印度好吗？
这里是比较埃及，阿尔及利亚，秘鲁等人均PPP和中国类似的国家
你拉印度进来降低逼格啊。。。。

 

[AndrewJin]

哥们，别比较印度好吗？
这里是比较埃及，阿尔及利亚，秘鲁等人均PPP和中国类似的国家
你拉印度进来降低逼格啊。。。。

Ok, let's not talk about India here any more, truly self-degrading.

 

[Nilgiri]

Datas from WHO
May 2014
View attachment 263359

China: 0.36
India: 4.39
US: 0.58.

Malnutrition is very hard to standardised
but mortality rate because of malnutrition can be easily presented.

Malnutrition is deeply related to life expectancy.
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Can we get a source from the WHO itself and not some 3rd party? Countries like Belgium and Norway having much higher malnutrition death rates than China is surprising.....and India is much better than some countries that I would assume to be much lower as well apparently. Something looks off for sure.

 

[beijingwalker]

Google "global malnutrition" and you will find that malnutrition is another word for India.

 

[esolve]

Google "global malnutrition" and you will find that malnutrition is another word for India.

哥们，这个帖子别扯印度好吗？？？
为何要降低逼格？

 

[Yizhi]

Can we get a source from the WHO itself and not some 3rd party? Countries like Belgium and Norway having much higher malnutrition death rates than China is surprising.....and India is much better than some countries that I would assume to be much lower as well apparently. Something looks off for sure.

An aging population can contribute to higher adult malnourishment number and higher malnutrition death rates, which could very likely appear in the case of China and parts of Europe. The point is always be cautious of using adult data describing more current trend if you don't differenciate age groups.

Adult malnourishment numbers has a lot to do with local eating habbit and genetics, which could be very biased if they apply the same standard for Chinese/East Asian population.

Mortality rate, under-5 (per 1,000)

Malnutrition prevalence, height for age (% of children under 5)

Malnutrition prevalence, weight for age (% of children under 5)

From: Health Nutrition and Population Statistics (World Bank), July 2015

some other measures relevant for comparison. the mortaity and underweight data are part of the index link posted.

 

[Nilgiri]

An aging population can contribute to higher adult malnourishment number and higher malnutrition death rates, which could very likely appear in the case of China and parts of Europe. The point is always be cautious of using adult data describing more current trend if you don't differenciate age groups.

Adult malnourishment numbers has a lot to do with local eating habbit and genetics, which could be very biased if they apply the same standard for Chinese/East Asian population.

Mortality rate, under-5 (per 1,000)
View attachment 263368

Malnutrition prevalence, height for age (% of children under 5)
View attachment 263367

Malnutrition prevalence, weight for age (% of children under 5)
View attachment 263366

From: Health Nutrition and Population Statistics (World Bank), July 2015

some other measures relevant for comparison. the mortaity and underweight data are part of the index link posted.

Some of your data is old.

Indian under 5 mortality rate is probably around mid 40s now in 2015, your graph is good. Same kind of drop that China witnessed in 80s and 90s happening now.

Malnutrition prevalence for children under 5 is now around 30% according to GHI. A large drop from earlier when it was around 44% in 2005.

| Tableau Public

Stunting is around 39% in 2014 now from 48% in 2006.

'Child stunting drops sharply in India' - The Hindu

This report once released should shed more updated statistics on Indian child malnutrition which seems to hit children more than the adult population.

EDIT Report has been released:

http://wcd.nic.in/issnip/National_Fact sheet_RSOC _02-07-2015.pdf

The overall trend looks good and lets hope it will accelerate.

Six charts that explain India’s battle against malnutrition - Livemint

A nationwide survey called the Rapid Survey on Children (RSOC), conducted by the ministry of women and child development in 2013-14 in league with Unicef, showed that the proportion of underweight children in India was 29.4%, and that of stunted children 38.7%. While these figures indicate high levels of under-nutrition, they show a marked improvement over what the last nationwide survey, the National Family Health Survey (NFHS), had reported in 2005-06: the ratio of underweight children at 42.5%, and the ratio of stunted children at 48%.

India can sure learn a lot from China which has trodden on this path before. It looks like the child malnutrition is dropping by 1 - 2% consistently per year and it will probably accelerate as the current govt has a massive focus on improving sanitation and food security distribution efficiency.

One just need to walk on any Chinese city and Indian city, obvious fact.
Chinese are slim but healthy.
70-80-year old grandmas are jogging, doing taichi, playing badminton or dancing publicly deep at night or in the morning.
Any public space is crowded with people doing exercises.
The Indians I know in China look old and unhealthy, seldom do sports.
Given their life expectancy and abysmal presentation in world sport stages , it can be explained.

Your racist claptrap wont fly among any reasonable members of this forum. You seem to be bragging to the point of sheer defensiveness. I mean China was winning olympic medals in the 80s when its nutrition profile was worse than India's today. You have a deep desire to excel at western sports (torturous child training, doping and everything else) we get it. You have not been to India or Indian villages to get an idea of what non-western sports are played there so you come off as an ignorant troll as well.

An aging population can contribute to higher adult malnourishment number and higher malnutrition death rates, which could very likely appear in the case of China and parts of Europe.

Oman, Philippines, Morocco, Tunisia have higher malnutrition death rates than India...Tunisia's is like 4 times worse.

India and Sri Lanka are equivalent, though Sri Lanka has a life expectancy similar to China if not better.

Thats why I was asking for the original WHO report this was taken from, I cannot seem to find it.

There are many data points that seem very strange here.

MALNUTRITION DEATH RATE BY COUNTRY

WHO Publish Date: May 2014

OUR DATA: We use the most recent data from these primary sources: WHO, World Bank, UNESCO, CIA and individual country databases for global health and causes of death.
We use the CDC, NIH and individual state and county databases for verification and supplementation for USA data.