I'm so sick and tired of hearing what India is doing why cant I hear what are we doing?

[War Thunder]

And who is living in "First class" residential schemes in a third world country like Pakistan which is paid by the taxes of Pakistani awam. Yet those First class residents are scared of the word "war" the very thing for which they are paid by the taxes of the civilians.



Why the **** care about that sh1th0le india and what will happen to it in case of war with Pakistan. Why are you such a well wisher of India, do you have ancestry from India like many in the power circles of Pakistan who are "indian" by heart due to their indian ancestries but "pakistani" on their makrooh face.



No they will do one thing that they did in 1971 whose proof is in the form of video on youtube, that is to surrender their weapons to indian army with smiling faces.

Those first class residents are laying down their lives every single day without your notice. A mother is losing her son, and a wife is losing her husband. And if you were blind or deaf for the past two decades then perhaps you might not have noticed how many of those "first class dwellers" we have lost while defending yours and my relatives and families in the worst type of 5th gen war imposed on us.
And just because you are not one of them, and don't understand what they go through, then its not right to bitch about what they get for their sacrifices. Enjoy your stay in whatever country you are in, but don't bitch about the men and women who dare to stay and fight a daily struggle to keep my country together.

 

[Crusher]

Those first class residents are laying down their lives every single day without your notice. A mother is losing her son, and a wife is losing her husband. And if you were blind or deaf for the past two decades then perhaps you might not have noticed how many of those "first class dwellers" we have lost while defending yours and my relatives and families in the worst type of 5th gen war imposed on us.
And just because you are not one of them, and don't understand what they go through, then its not right to bitch about what they get for their sacrifices. Enjoy your stay in whatever country you are in, but don't bitch about the men and women who dare to stay and fight a daily struggle to keep my country together.

They are paid for it handsomely and their families are also taken care of by tax payers money. And they know about it before they go to the recruiting centre that death is always possible in this profession, same with the police department. It is not like tens of thousands of common people who are killed by armed robbers or other murders and their families lives are ruined for the rest of their life without any kind of support system.

 

[B.K.N]

They are paid for it handsomely and their families are also taken care of by tax payers money.

It's like any other profession I think working as a line man in wapda is more dangerous than working as a soldier

 

[Nasr]

Apply this to Kashmir my brother and we shall have no fear and watch enemy crumble at our feet.

What do you suppose I have been explaining to everyone here for quite sometime now?

Pakistan stronger economically, united as a nation and well prepared in war stock as well as firmly placed alliances, is capable of defeating Indian designs (permeated by her Zionist Ally, Israel).

 

[Crusher]

It's like any other profession I think working as a line man in wapda is more dangerous than working as a soldier

Indeed one of our uncles who was a wapda lineman got electrocuted while repairing a transformer and he was also "on the duty", many professions have their own risks associated with them. Even a janitor can get killed due to some poisonous gas while cleaning a gutter again "on the duty". And don't forget the poor policemen who are targeted the most and are the most "ill-equipped" and lay their lives for a pathetic salary and "facilities" than the those enjoying their lives in "First-world DHA" residential schemes in a third world poor country like Pakistan. Yet we are told that we should be "more thankful" to them because "some" of them have to lose their lives while be "on the duty" as if their lives are more precious than the lives of people working in other dangerous professions who also die regularly while "on the duty" but they remain always unsung heroes and disappear into oblivion.

 

[PurAzamBaHadaf]

Everyone here is batshit crazy for a war but you don't even realise than our Armed force have ONLY ammunation worth 3-4 days of fighting. Think rationally, not like idiots. India has ammunation which can last them upto 2 months if needed. Let's see who wins? Pakistan is weak on the diplomatic front and we need to fix that to have some say in the Kashmir issue. Period

 

[Crusher]

What do you suppose I have been explaining to everyone here for quite sometime now?

Pakistan stronger economically, united as a nation and well prepared in war stock as well as firmly placed alliances, is capable of defeating Indian designs (permeated by her Zionist Ally, Israel).

This has NOT happened in the last 70 years and there are no signs of it happening in the next 70 years too, this cannot be used as an excuse. Pakistan was "dirt poor" when it engaged india in 1948, 1965 and 1971 wars.

 

[B.K.N]

This has NOT happened in the last 70 years and there are no signs of it happening in the next 70 years too, this cannot be used as an excuse. Pakistan was "dirt poor" when it engaged india in 1948, 1965 and 1971 wars.

What is in your mind how Pakistan India war would look like or what type of war you want

 

[Nasr]

This has NOT happened in the last 70 years and there are no signs of it happening in the next 70 years too, this cannot be used as an excuse. Pakistan was "dirt poor" when it engaged india in 1948, 1965 and 1971 wars.

I guess you have lost sight of how things stand today and haven't the first clue how strategies are implemented. There isn't any need for this blindness that many of my fellow countrymen are exhibiting. We have to attain peace in Afghanistan. We also have to get CPEC up n running. India's move to claim Kashmir by revoking article 370, is a clear sign of their desperation. They want war, that is their aim, since Modi's government is failing. Pakistan in a stronger position being unified, surging ahead economically, will crush India. Right now is the time to ban all Indian media in Pakistan, close our air-space to India indefinitely, ban all travel with India indefinitely and round up support from allies like China, Russia, Turkey, Malaysia and Arabia to demolish India's designs on Kashmir. Right now is the time to call on OIC to boycott India economically. Right now is the time to place UN Sanctions on India by using our relationships with allies.

In two decades, Pakistan will stand stronger and more powerful both economically and militarily. Kashmir will be liberated, and what better when they are liberated to a strong and powerful Pakistan, who has peaceful neighbors that are our allies, like Afghanistan, Iran and China. Kashmiris will be heard all over the world by Pakistanis. Their cause will not die, their freedom shall be attained through methodical strategy.

Going to war, has not helped us in the past 70 years. It is time to change tact and be intellectually superior to the enemy. We have done quite well in Afghanistan, thwarting Zionist designs against us, for the past 19 years. It is time now to get them thrown out of Afghanistan. Clear our neighborhood and focus on eradicating corruption, improving our economy and becoming Muslims with impregnable Imaan.

 

[Crusher]

What is in your mind how Pakistan India war would look like or what type of war you want

A deceptive war only limited to Kashmir, Pakistan military should just bomb the road link between Kathua and Pathankot and india's supplyline in Kashmir will be cut drastically, they wouldn't not be able to access even Kathua, forget about Kashmir valley and Ladakh which are far away from that Pathankot and Kathua link road.

This is it on the map,

 

[B.K.N]

only limited to Kashmir,

Why you think they won't attack Punjab and thar dessert real war would be in Punjab not in Kashmir

 

[Nasr]

A deceptive war only limited to Kashmir, Pakistan military should just bomb the road link between Kathua and Pathankot and india's supplyline in Kashmir will be cut drastically, they wouldn't not be able to access even Kathua, forget about Kashmir valley and Ladakh which are far away from that Pathankot and Kathua link road.

This is it on the map,
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What ... you think it's not been tried before? Take a look at the map again. It shows Pakistan's advance toward Akhnur in 1965. What happened then? Why did we stop? Ever read books on 1965 War, both Pakistani and Indian perspective? Do you know why Pakistan couldn't break through to cut off India at Jummu? Do you know what the level Pakistan Military's war stocks were at the time? Do you know how we were stopped dead in the tracks because of U.S embargo?

We went in because we thought we had them, without thinking about strategic blow-back from our supposed ally.

My friend, wars are fought and won before we even enter the battlefield. Strategic planning isn't a term, it is reality. Chess isn't a game, it is how strategies are formed. And strategies aren't formed when people are emotionally charged and prone to rash decisions.

China was conquered, pillaged and destroyed by imperial Japan. It was because Japan executed the perfect stratagem, where China was embroiled in civil war. Look at where China is today, with the world's 2nd largest economy. And look at where Japan is today, with a population in rapid decline and an economy that is wobbling.

Pakistan will liberate Kashmir with a strong in Imaan, Muslim population. Pakistan will liberate Kashmir with being powerful economically. Pakistan will liberate Kashmir with giant allies on it's side. Pakistan will liberate Kashmir, with Pakistanis who do not worship bollywood and who have eradicated corruption within our society and political elite.

Go to war without any of these things, and the losses Pakistan will face will be incalculable.

 

[Crusher]

Why you think they won't attack Punjab and thar dessert real war would be in Punjab not in Kashmir

Because Kashmir is a disputed territory, if they will attack back in Punjab and Sindh, then we will have full scale war. If indian rats want to have it that way then let it be so.

 

[WarKa DaNG]

No need for armed forces, there were no armed forces on the defeat of soviet and now america, Simply declare Jihad

 

[Pomegranate]

Hi,

The corruption and incompetence in Paf happened to Kashmir---.

Not buying equipment in a timely manner happened to Kashmir---.

Traitors claiming that there would be no war happened to kashmir---.

Not taking the Yemen offer in a timely manner happened to Kashmir---.

Not understanding the level of threat happened to kashmir---.

Under-estimating your enemy happened to kashmir---.

Kashmir happened due to the coward and incompetence of pak military on the 27th---.

If pak had taken out the 1/2 billion dollar sub and taken out 8-10 enemy aircraft---pakistan military's resovle would be obvious---.

But showing cowardice and fear of world reaction and letting enemy escape happened to kashmir---.

In simple kashmir is gone and no one cares about it in Pakistan.

we had NSC and Core commander Conference meetings, but we dont have policy as to how we are going to respond. if Pakistan leadership thinks that india is going to stop here they are under immense delusion.

War is here to stay.