If Murica NATO not accept end of war in Ukraine, China will then supply military hardwar Firedragons drones to Russia

[kuge]

MiG-29 was made in the same time as F-15s and F-16s. Of course eastern technology and training is always inferior to western technology and training.

What did China have in those same years?

may be but iraq had a much inferior arm force than china in comprehensive strength. E.g China pushed the allied forces to 38th line in korean war.

 

[Beny Karachun]

may be but iraq had a much inferior arm force than china in comprehensive strength. E.g China pushed the allied forces to 38th line in korean war.

The Korean War? Communists invaded South Korea and China alone sent in 1.5x as many troops as every country supporting
South Korea. China took overwhelming losses and pulled out of the war. At the Battle of Chosin Reservoir, China had an
American unit surrounded and outnumbered 40 to 1. The American unit broke out and destroyed 40% of the entirety of
Chinese military strength in North Korea, thoroughly humiliating China in the process. The invasion of South Korea was
defeated and both sides agreed to a ceasefire that continues to this day. Result: American victory, humiliating loss for China.

The Vietnam War? American gets dragged into France's conflict because of commies, again.
The American forces consistently rape the North Vietnamese army and VC guerrillas, but wasn't allowed to end the war because politicians didn't want them invading North Vietnam or Cambodia. America eventually pulled out of the war because of communist sympathizers at home swaying politicians, not because of any military losses.

North Vietnam was utterly incapable Of beating South Vietnam while America was in the war. China then decided to invade Vietnam. The entire war lasted less than a month. China, which massively outnumbers Vietnam, invaded a country that was already exhausted from decades Of constant war. China invaded with 6 to 1 numerical superiority and suffered more casualties than Vietnam. lost 420 tanks (vs. 185 Vietnamese tanks). China retreated, leaving Vietnam in control Of Cambodia, the Spratly Islands. and basically every other piece of territory China wanted to claim. China remains butthurt to this day and still claims they won the war and are the rightful owners of the Spratly Islands.

Is a picture starting to be formed here? China has been destroyed by multiple ethnic and political groups in what is now
modern China for centuries. Then China was destroyed by the Mongols. Repeatedly. Then the Japanese. Then the French.
Then the British. Then the Germans. Then the Japanese again. Then the Russians, several times. Then the Americans. Then
the Japanese again. Then the Americans and South Koreans. Then the Vietnamese.

Basically, every war with China goes the same way: China rushes the enemy with millions of screaming soldiers. Millions of
screaming soldiers get slaughtered while inflicting less than dire casualties on the enemy, China retreats in defeat. then
announces that they really won aner all and only pulled out because they were tired of playing.

 

[OIO]

The Korean War? Communists invaded South Korea and China alone sent in 1.5x as many troops as every country supporting
South Korea. China took overwhelming losses and pulled out of the war. At the Battle of Chosin Reservoir, China had an
American unit surrounded and outnumbered 40 to 1. The American unit broke out and destroyed 40% of the entirety of
Chinese military strength in North Korea, thoroughly humiliating China in the process. The invasion of South Korea was
defeated and both sides agreed to a ceasefire that continues to this day. Result: American victory, humiliating loss for China.

The Vietnam War? American gets dragged into France's conflict because of commies, again.
The American forces consistently rape the North Vietnamese army and VC guerrillas, but wasn't allowed to end the war because politicians didn't want them invading North Vietnam or Cambodia. America eventually pulled out of the war because of communist sympathizers at home swaying politicians, not because of any military losses.

North Vietnam was utterly incapable Of beating South Vietnam while America was in the war. China then decided to invade Vietnam. The entire war lasted less than a month. China, which massively outnumbers Vietnam, invaded a country that was already exhausted from decades Of constant war. China invaded with 6 to 1 numerical superiority and suffered more casualties than Vietnam. lost 420 tanks (vs. 185 Vietnamese tanks). China retreated, leaving Vietnam in control Of Cambodia, the Spratly Islands. and basically every other piece of territory China wanted to claim. China remains butthurt to this day and still claims they won the war and are the rightful owners of the Spratly Islands.

Is a picture starting to be formed here? China has been destroyed by multiple ethnic and political groups in what is now
modern China for centuries. Then China was destroyed by the Mongols. Repeatedly. Then the Japanese. Then the French.
Then the British. Then the Germans. Then the Japanese again. Then the Russians, several times. Then the Americans. Then
the Japanese again. Then the Americans and South Koreans. Then the Vietnamese.

Basically, every war with China goes the same way: China rushes the enemy with millions of screaming soldiers. Millions of
screaming soldiers get slaughtered while inflicting less than dire casualties on the enemy, China retreats in defeat. then
announces that they really won aner all and only pulled out because they were tired of playing.

China warned the United States not to cross the 38th parallel, but the Americans ignored it.

Both the Korean peninsula and Vietnam have been vassal states of China in history, and external forces should not enter.

 

[SaadH]

MiG-29s and MiG-25s are 60s technology? MiG-29 was superior to what China had at that time.

Here are Iraqi air defenses, did China have any better at that time?
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And German fighter jets in WWII were superior to allied fighters but they still lost the war.

 

[Beny Karachun]

And German fighter jets in WWII were superior to allied fighters but they still lost the war.

China is in the same place as Germany, surrounded. Except they don't have a quality edge.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

I'm sure the pro Russia factions in China would love the sound of that, but on the level of state policy you don't play the peace maker role while trying to pour gasoline to the fire.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Because you said that Iraq was weak but in fact it was probably a more formidable military than China had at that time.

For face saving and humiliation yeah yeah your master and its allies attacked Iraq like a pack of wolves lol

Because you said that Iraq was weak but in fact it was probably a more formidable military than China had at that time.

For face saving and humiliation yeah yeah your master and its allies attacked Iraq like a pack of wolves lol

 

[Jeeten Parikh]

putin will simply reject the made in china junk anyway

 

[PakFactor]

Since when meat grinding mode means losing the war? Russia was also in meat grinding mode in world war 2

Yes, they won the war when the Germans on the other side were fighting French militia, England, the US, Australia, etc. Then the Germans also had to fight in the North African campaign. Where's Russia in continental Europe had to lose so many? One thinks about what the situation would have been like had it not been for a multi-front conflict.

Lastly, today it's confirmed that the Russians are sending trainees to Belarus for training because they had to field their instructions in Ukraine while Belarus is inexperienced.

Your WWII example is not how to fight a war, as Stalin and other Soviet leaders didn't value life. I hope you do not think the same way.

Anyways, Russia is finished as a military might. It's lost its image in front of the world; they are emperors with no clothes.

 

[kuge]

The Korean War? Communists invaded South Korea and China alone sent in 1.5x as many troops as every country supporting
South Korea. China took overwhelming losses and pulled out of the war. At the Battle of Chosin Reservoir, China had an
American unit surrounded and outnumbered 40 to 1. The American unit broke out and destroyed 40% of the entirety of
Chinese military strength in North Korea, thoroughly humiliating China in the process. The invasion of South Korea was
defeated and both sides agreed to a ceasefire that continues to this day. Result: American victory, humiliating loss for China.

The Vietnam War? American gets dragged into France's conflict because of commies, again.
The American forces consistently rape the North Vietnamese army and VC guerrillas, but wasn't allowed to end the war because politicians didn't want them invading North Vietnam or Cambodia. America eventually pulled out of the war because of communist sympathizers at home swaying politicians, not because of any military losses.

North Vietnam was utterly incapable Of beating South Vietnam while America was in the war. China then decided to invade Vietnam. The entire war lasted less than a month. China, which massively outnumbers Vietnam, invaded a country that was already exhausted from decades Of constant war. China invaded with 6 to 1 numerical superiority and suffered more casualties than Vietnam. lost 420 tanks (vs. 185 Vietnamese tanks). China retreated, leaving Vietnam in control Of Cambodia, the Spratly Islands. and basically every other piece of territory China wanted to claim. China remains butthurt to this day and still claims they won the war and are the rightful owners of the Spratly Islands.

Is a picture starting to be formed here? China has been destroyed by multiple ethnic and political groups in what is now
modern China for centuries. Then China was destroyed by the Mongols. Repeatedly. Then the Japanese. Then the French.
Then the British. Then the Germans. Then the Japanese again. Then the Russians, several times. Then the Americans. Then
the Japanese again. Then the Americans and South Koreans. Then the Vietnamese.

Basically, every war with China goes the same way: China rushes the enemy with millions of screaming soldiers. Millions of
screaming soldiers get slaughtered while inflicting less than dire casualties on the enemy, China retreats in defeat. then
announces that they really won aner all and only pulled out because they were tired of playing.

so it is a fact that china hammered the us-led allied forces to the 38th line...
that proves china had a much stronger military force than iraq in the 1990s too...as opposed to your claim...
i cant think of a war US ever has a decisive win over china.

 

[JackTheRipper]

The invasion of South Korea was
defeated and both sides agreed to a ceasefire that continues to this day. Result: American victory, humiliating loss for China.

Invasion of South Korea was defeated and both side agreed to a ceasefire.... Result American victory.
OK

And in Afghanistan Taliban not defeated and both side agreed to ceasefire....
Result whose victory?

Same happened in Vietnam, Communist won, now whose victory?

You are claiming every defeat of US, into victory, same like Indians...

 

[kuge]

The Korean War? Communists invaded South Korea and China alone sent in 1.5x as many troops as every country supporting
South Korea. China took overwhelming losses and pulled out of the war. At the Battle of Chosin Reservoir, China had an
American unit surrounded and outnumbered 40 to 1. The American unit broke out and destroyed 40% of the entirety of
Chinese military strength in North Korea, thoroughly humiliating China in the process. The invasion of South Korea was
defeated and both sides agreed to a ceasefire that continues to this day. Result: American victory, humiliating loss for China.

The Vietnam War? American gets dragged into France's conflict because of commies, again.
The American forces consistently rape the North Vietnamese army and VC guerrillas, but wasn't allowed to end the war because politicians didn't want them invading North Vietnam or Cambodia. America eventually pulled out of the war because of communist sympathizers at home swaying politicians, not because of any military losses.

North Vietnam was utterly incapable Of beating South Vietnam while America was in the war. China then decided to invade Vietnam. The entire war lasted less than a month. China, which massively outnumbers Vietnam, invaded a country that was already exhausted from decades Of constant war. China invaded with 6 to 1 numerical superiority and suffered more casualties than Vietnam. lost 420 tanks (vs. 185 Vietnamese tanks). China retreated, leaving Vietnam in control Of Cambodia, the Spratly Islands. and basically every other piece of territory China wanted to claim. China remains butthurt to this day and still claims they won the war and are the rightful owners of the Spratly Islands.

Is a picture starting to be formed here? China has been destroyed by multiple ethnic and political groups in what is now
modern China for centuries. Then China was destroyed by the Mongols. Repeatedly. Then the Japanese. Then the French.
Then the British. Then the Germans. Then the Japanese again. Then the Russians, several times. Then the Americans. Then
the Japanese again. Then the Americans and South Koreans. Then the Vietnamese.

Basically, every war with China goes the same way: China rushes the enemy with millions of screaming soldiers. Millions of
screaming soldiers get slaughtered while inflicting less than dire casualties on the enemy, China retreats in defeat. then
announces that they really won aner all and only pulled out because they were tired of playing.

further more USA suffered a post traumatic nightmare in vietnam war...retreated from the war..now vietnam is united under communism.

 

[RescueRanger]

putin will simply reject the made in china junk anyway

 

[nahtanbob]

And what about f16 and f15 always used only weak opponents like Iraq Afghanistan to bombed innocent civilians you're the global terrorist in true words


And what about f16 and f15 always used only weak opponents like Iraq Afghanistan to bombed innocent civilians you're the global terrorist in true words

please pick a fight with a country with f-16s and f-15s. It does not have to be America and let me know how it works out

 

[White and Green with M/S]

please pick a fight with a country with f-16s and f-15s. It does not have to be America and let me know how it works out

Your ego is worth nothing here, go to fight China than you see who is the winner you always choose weak enemy