If India does a Surgical strike in Pakistan, how would/should Pakistan respond??

[New Resolve]

Please don't turn this into a troll thread and this question is strictly to the Pakistani posters here.

Question to Pakistani Posters, but coming from a little Indian Troll, bit strange. Change your flag to indian son, your too much of a chicken sh@t to be a pakistani.

 

[ito]

How? The lack of economic ties between India and Pakistan means India has no economic leverage over Pakistan (in the traditional sense), which really only leaves open the option of Indian terrorism.

To 'keep a country the size of Pakistan in perpetual underdevelopment' would require Indian support for terrorism at levels that would be impossible to hide, especially with an Afghan government more interested in Afghan development rather than tearing Pakistan down. Indian support for terrorism at that scale would not go unnoticed globally, it would amount to an Indian declaration of war against Pakistan, and India would find little to no tangible international support when Pakistan would retaliate in the same manner and set India on fire.

India has no feasible long term options for inflicting massive damage on Pakistan without suffering significantly herself, overtly or covertly. An unstable Afghanistan was India's biggest asset to damage Pakistan, and that may not last for very long, and if it does, not at the levels seen between 2007 and 2013. Indian analysts need to wake up to this reality and work with Pakistan towards long term settlement of disputes and peace. Dreams of crushing Pakistan while riding on Modis 56 inch chest are just that, pipe dreams analogous to ancient Hindus mastering intergalactic travel.

India was never involved in any terror activities inside Pakistan. This is just an excuse by your politicians to shift blame on India. Taliban was your creation. That is why until now no Pakistani government could provide evidence for Indian activities inside Pakistan. Just talking in air won't suffice. There can be no settlement of disputes until Pakistan stops all terror activities inside India. You cannot keep on killing Indians and use that to blackmail India to come to tables.

As on the response, depriving social and economic development works. It worked between US and USSR, I think it will work wonderfully between India and Pakistan.

 

[New Resolve]

India was never involved in any terror activities inside Pakistan. This is just an excuse by your politicians to shift blame on India. Taliban was your creation. That is why until now no Pakistani government could provide evidence for Indian activities inside Pakistan. Just talking in air won't suffice. There can be no settlement of disputes until Pakistan stops all terror activities inside India. You cannot keep on killing Indians and use that to blackmail India to come to tables.

As on the response, depriving social and economic development works. It worked between US and USSR, I think it will work wonderfully between India and Pakistan.

i agree with you, just like what is happening in India is indias doing, so stop blaming pakistan for your problems

 

[Indus Pakistan]

@ito Do me a favour. Don't play full retard here. Cut the b*tch dance. India has been using proxies as long as India has known itself.

Did India arm, aid and abett the Mukhti Bahini in 1971? Don't bother farting any excuses. The moment you start justifying something you have slipped. That way Pakistan can also give 101 excuses.

The fact is you did. The fact is your still doing it in Afghanistan. I don't expect you to accept this but this is reality. You can throw your sweet cherry a*ss up in the air and dig your face into the ground but that is reality.

@AgNoStiC MuSliM I think what Pakistan needs to do now is focus on economy. Use our geographic position and economics to leverage the best deal out of India. The day of wars are over in the age of nuclear weapons.

Today it is all about trade, trade and trading blocks. Ask China and she will tell you.

 

[GreenApple]

...5 pages.. and many more after this, of scared pakistani netizens.
sartaz and pakistan want to avoid NSA meet desperately...wonder why they are afraid ???
Going to war is the last resort and and admission of defeat...which all can see in the post of every posters above and below...
War is something in which India is comfortable.with ....as History tells us - pakistan may have won few battles here and there, but war has always been in India's favour. India had the last and loudest laugh....
Due to political reasons, India had lost the knack of covert operations..but it won't be the case for long..
This is evident from the scared posts...the start of the thread is an admission to the fact....this was never a case in the past...
Responding with photoshopped material, deleting the Indian posts and banning the Indian members - carry on
Good Luck. But things going to change pretty soon.

 

[FaujHistorian]

The cost of any war with Pakistan will be too heavy for India, moreover, India knows that threshold for Pakistan nuke is very low. The best response that India can impart is on economic front....make the no-war, no-talks, and no-peace situation for Pakistan too hard to bear. Prompt Pakistan to become a military state there by deprive Pakistan of its social and economic development.

First part of your post. Excellent.

Second part? extremely naive.

Modi probably will turn out as the most ANTI-capital anti-business PM ever.

Vajpai was intellectual giant.
Modi? exact opposite.

so please do not repeat his $tupid @rse blabbering.

Thank you

 

[ito]

@ito Do me a favour. Don't play full retard here. Cut the b*tch dance. India has been using proxies as long as India has known itself.

Did India arm, aid and abett the Mukhti Bahini in 1971? Don't bother farting any excuses. The moment you start justifying something you have slipped. That way Pakistan can also give 101 excuses.

The fact is you did. The fact is your still doing it in Afghanistan. I don't expect you to accept this but this is reality. You can throw your sweet cherry a*ss up in the air and dig your face into the ground but that is reality.

@AgNoStiC MuSliM I think what Pakistan needs to do now is focus on economy. Use our geographic position and economics to leverage the best deal out of India. The day of wars are over in the age of nuclear weapons.

Today it is all about trade, trade and trading blocks. Ask China and she will tell you.

Mukhti Bahini was your making...India has to intervene because of the torrent of refugees from East Pakistan flowing into India. And you know what happened after that.

As on Indian involvement, no Pakistani official was able to produce an iota of evidence of India's involvement to US, or in UN or to India. Taliban was your creation. It cannot be India's fault that the snake you nurtured turned against you.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

...5 pages.. and many more after this, of scared pakistani netizens.
sartaz and pakistan want to avoid NSA meet desperately...wonder why they are afraid ???
Going to war is the last resort and and admission of defeat...which all can see in the post of every posters above and below...
War is something in which India is comfortable.with ....as History tells us - pakistan may have won few battles here and there, but war has always been in India's favour. India had the last and loudest laugh....
Due to political reasons, India had lost the knack of covert operations..but it won't be the case for long..
This is evident from the scared posts...the start of the thread is an admission to the fact....this was never a case in the past...
Responding with photoshopped material, deleting the Indian posts and banning the Indian members - carry on
Good Luck. But things going to change pretty soon.

I bet your dad regrets one day in the year. That day he cries like baby. That day is your birth-day.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

India was never involved in any terror activities inside Pakistan. This is just an excuse by your politicians to shift blame on India.

As is Indias tired blame game of implicating Pakistan in every act of terror in India.

Taliban was your creation.

The rise of the TTP was largely due to the Afghan NDS and their collaboration with certain other nations.

As on the response, depriving social and economic development works. It worked between US and USSR, I think it will work wonderfully between India and Pakistan.

That's a highly flawed analogy. The USSR disintegrated because of unsustainable military expenditures (in an attempt to maintain absolute parity with the US), but that unsustainability was exacerbated because of the communist economic model and the rampant corruption and poor governance generally associated with autocratic and repressive forms of government. The Soviets spent more than they could afford while simultaneously undermining the ability of their nation to grow.

India and Pakistan are both beset by the same issues of corruption and poor governance, and while India might have a slight head start in terms of economic growth and improving governance, Pakistan is herself now in new and welcome territory with a second elected government in a row looking likely to complete a 5 year term and transfer power to a new government via elections.

In addition, Pakistan's Military has made clear, repeatedly, that they are not interested in absolute military parity with India, given Pakistan's resource constraints, and will work to maintain credible deterrence instead.

So while this 'USA VS USSR' template sounds like it would be applicable in the India Pakistan context, there are significant differences that will allow Pakistan to avoid the fate of the USSR, provided Pakistan continues her democratic and social evolution as she is currently.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Mukhti Bahini was your making...India has to intervene because of the torrent of refugees from East Pakistan flowing into India. And you know what happened after that.

As on Indian involvement, no Pakistani official was able to produce an iota of evidence of India's involvement to US, or in UN or to India. Taliban was your creation. It cannot be India's fault that the snake you nurtured turned against you.

What did I say about 101 excuses? Where does it say in international law "torrent" qualfies arming terrorists? Please do tell me? It is not a question of creation. Nexalities are your creation does it mean we start arming them and then when you get refugees running around we invade?

Read the book of 101 excuses.

 

[Abotani]

There would be no surgical strikes in the first place.At most there would be some cross border action against isolated Pakistani positions,that too is very unlikely.
Quite contrary to the views held by Indians here,their nation neither has the will nor the capability to do so without escalating it.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

There would be no surgical strikes in the first place.At most there would be some cross border action against isolated Pakistani positions,that too is very unlikely.
Quite contrary to the views held by Indians here,their nation neither has the will nor the capability to do so without escalating it.

Hello my friend It is nice seeing you around here. I need to talk to you about something. Keep a look out in your PM box.

Ps. I read about your region. It was very interesting. You indeed are our special guest here as I don't think we get many from your area here. At least for me this has been education. All the best.

 

[Thorough Pro]

This whole assumption of surgical strikes by india is similar to and as absurd and hilarious assuming a dickless eunch fathering a child.

 

[Abotani]

Hello my friend It is nice seeing you around here. I need to talk to you about something. Keep a look out in your PM box.

Ps. I read about your region. It was very interesting. You indeed are our special guest here as I don't think we get many from your area here. At least for me this has been education. All the best.

Thanks,it has been a pleasure on this forum(apart from the initial days when I pretended to be a 'patriotic Indian'.Indians never questioned my identity then lol).The knowledge of many posters here about military affairs is quite informative and hard to come by if one relies on other sources.But more enlightening has been the lesson to know people keeping propaganda about them aside.
Once again I return the thanks and your welcome.

 

[Viper0011.]

Indians are not that foolish to do surgical strikes....there are other more effective methods at India's disposal. India will make the economic consequences of no peace - no war situation for Pakistan too heavy to bear such that Pakistan is in perpetual state of underdevelopment.

Yes you are. Men when under the false impression of being supreme beings due to their recent power rush, have ALWAYS acted in harsh manners to attack and bully others. Take a look inside India and see and how the minorities are getting threatened and abused.

Next, India did try to use "other options" in Karachi and Baluchistan, called terrorism. They didn't work and even innocents getting killed didn't help achieve the objectives for India. So what's no??

Here, I hate to break it to you, my information is that for the past couple of weeks, many hidden heavy deployments have been happening on certain parts of the long border against Pakistan.

I have also learned that there was a reason why there was a message sent to Pakistan a couple of days ago by the Indian Army Chief that Pakistan would get unexpected response on the border. These are well planned incidents.

Whether the sorry incident of today is connected to this chain of events or not, I don't know. But it will come out. It appears that Modi is probably thinking about wanting to engage Pakistan into a limited confrontation.

At this point, a few believe that India is willing to go to any extent, to stop the Chinese - Pakistani trade route (short of full scale war which then will turn the region pretty flashy first and darker later). So let's see how this turns out.

The Pakistani military will be issuing a Red alert in the border areas within the next 4-8 hours. There is just too much heavy movement on the Indian side in certain areas from what I've heard. Hopefully, this doesn't turn into a conflict or a war as that would escalate beyond means. I feel for so many hundreds of millions of poor people on each side, who don't have proper bedding or bathrooms to sleep on. But you two are busy in preparing for wars!!! Sad.

@Horus @Oscar @kaonalpha @ACE OF THE AIR @Aether : guys - read my post starting from the paragraph number 3.