:: If Imran Khan comes back in Power ::

[Trailer23]

So, last nite I was out with a group friends - most of whom are either die-hard IK/PTI supporters and/or people like myself, that aren't exactly his supporters, but, can't tolerate PDM (N-League in Power).

Dinner went straight to hell when politics made an entry - before the first course even got served.

Either way, we all went on what IK did wrong the last time he was in power and that if he was handed another shot, what he must do to direct Pakistan in the right direction & perhaps get us out of this hell-hole we all seem to be stuck in - as a Nation.

I know its asking too much, but try listing his flaws and/or areas for improvement in points.

And please-please avoid replying back to others comments if you disagree with an individual at the off-chance they're PDM/N-League supporters.

Here are a few points that I could think of...

1. Stop taking political advice from Peerni's (a la reintroducing Wasim Akram+ - for the sake of Punjab).

2. Stop talking/repeating the same old rhetoric whilst making speeches at public Jalsas, events and Media outlets.
Note: This also applies to Q&A's in Foreign Countries.

3. You've been ousted once & now have a fair understanding how politics work at the highest level. If you still haven't had an understanding/feel of whom to trust - than you're not the man for the job.

4. Its time to surround yourself with persons that have an understanding of specialized fields. You need not make them a Minister, but have them as consultants. Lord knows you need some serious advice how to deal with the Foreign Press. Before making tweets like Donald Trump, have someone do fact checks before becoming a target of memes for the opposition.

5. Do Not interfere in the matters of the Establishment - even if you're the PM. Didn't go all to well the last time around. I'd hate to do a Video Edit called 'Same Page'.

6. If you need to give NRO to X-number of persons, be done with it & move on. Shehzad Akbar couldn't get back a dime from the UK Government & its water under the bridge.

Finally..., my (late) Father always had a saying: "Uppar walley say panga nahe laina ch-ye"

His (my father's) reference was not Al' Mighty, but hinted towards the USofA. Its the Pandora's Box. A Death Trap. A highway to nowhere that can only lead to the suffering of your people. Those who used to say, "Don't be a slave of the US", ask those persons what do you have to say now when your Country is on the brink of default.

Its clear as day, that in the past couple of months IK's tone from 'Absolutely not' has shifted to, "We want to have good relations with the US".

Politics is certainly not my forte, however, I feel with all flaws IK has had as a PM, i'd be best suited if he remain Leader of Political Party like Sonia Gandhi & appoint someone as PM. People like Hammad Azhar would certainly be a good candidate if such an arrangement could be made. IK is already in his 70's and if PTI is to have a future, they need to groom the younger capable members in the Party.

Apologies to the PTI Supports, but we all need to contribute to what needs to be done in order to sail the Country we call Pakistan in the right direction.

Remember guys, just points will do..., and don't get into a P!ssing Contest with another Member.

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[AlKardai]

You forgot the part where he has to make peace with the establishment.

But I definitely agree with your points on consultant who are experts in their fields.

I also feel like Pakistan should be a state that talks less, and does more. If we shut up for a little while and decided to focus on growth rather than dabbling in foreign relations, our economy could actually get back on track
Practically like Indonesia

 

[HAIDER]

on this point 2 : Stop talking/repeating the same old rhetoric whilst making speeches at public Jalsas, events and Media outlets

He addresses the people in the arena to give them the reason for his struggle, it's not for the people who regularly watch tv or are constantly in touch with media.

 

[Trailer23]

He addresses the people in the arena to give them the reason for his struggle, it's not for the people who regularly watch tv or are constantly in touch with media.

Sir, do you have any idea the number of Pakistani's that have smartphones with data these days.

Those people in the Arena, when interviewed pretty much say/repeat everything IK has been saying for years.

My point was, and to highlight on your point (about his struggles) is, "We know!!!"

The whole..., "No one knows the West like I do" is just getting old.

I could get 20 Screens & play 20 different interviews, all of which are the same words (repeated) about his struggles.

 

[alphapak]

Will the Thief of Army Staff let him do his job this time? or will he advise to make Aleem Khan
the CM of Punjab? lol. Will the Thief let the Police, judges, Election commission and NAB do their job?
Or will they make **** movies of the judges to blackmail them?

I just hope This Asim Muneer is not like Barwa. He should concentrate on doing his job.

 

[Areesh]

Imran Khan is a pacifist

Doubt he would go ruthless against noon league and other PDM

He should but he won't

 

[Trailer23]

Will the Thief of Army Staff let him do his job this time? or will he advise to make Aleem Khan
the CM of Punjab? lol. Will the Thief let the Police, judges, Election commission and NAB do their job?
Or will they make **** movies of the judges to blackmail them?

I just hope This Asim Muneer is not like Barwa. He should concentrate on doing his job.

I think there are a number of Topics/Threads going about the whole anti-Establishment circus.

As I mentioned a couple of times, we're discussing what IK should do & not do.

Leave Military, Judges, Police etc for another Topic.

 

[crankthatskunk]

My only advice to IK which solve most of his problems and shortcomings is to stop being naive and start to judge people for what they are.
Unfortunately, despite being sincere to Pakistan and honest, IK is not very bright or intelligent. OK let me change intelligent to clever. He probably is intelligent but not very clever at all.
He should stop trusting people, he himself admit he trust people and then betrayed by them.
Despite knowing this fact, he still trusted Moonis and Pervaiz Ilahi. That is not very clever or intelligent.
They are snakes, they can only bite.

 

[Asimzranger]

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Here is my advise to the PTI folks

1) IK is your quintessential politician who is pulling wool over your eyes. It is time you wake up and smell the coffee.

2) No. IK is not a pacifist rather he is using it as an excuse to avoid fighting with India. He is on India's payroll.

3) IK is NOT naive. IK has corrupt people all around him and he made them part of his team with full knowledge

4) IK's goal is to malign our wardi and spoil our relations with key allies like the US. He is very dangerous and is hell bent on distroying Pakistan.

5) IK has strong jewish lobby behind him. Don't take his drama baazi seriously.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Divorce the towel or peerni underneath it, that'll be a good start or atleast don't ask for her political advice, she is a moron

 

[Path-Finder]

1. Stop taking political advice from Peerni's (a la reintroducing Wasim Akram+ - for the sake of Punjab).

what evidence is there that she gives advice? this derogatory use of language is what noon leak is known for I remember the politics of the 90's when benazir was targeted. she would be regarded as an Kanjri for example, when going to bazar you would hear some incredible salacious chatter in the open! She had leaflets dropped against her in Lahore with some incredibly benign and false accusations. A fake picture of her supposedly in a bikini!! Hell I will admit it that even I believed some of those things when I look back now!

Then the first Wife of IK was targeted with supposed Jewish connections. Again because media was controlled 3 decades ago most people believed that too!

Now his current wife is being targeted with smear! So unless there is any proof of the accusation then lets not sink to noon league/establishment level.

2. Stop talking/repeating the same old rhetoric whilst making speeches at public Jalsas, events and Media outlets.
Note: This also applies to Q&A's in Foreign Countries.

in a country like Pakistan where amnesia is common. Where people despite knowing the haramzadi done by ppp/n-leak +establishment still commit themselves to falling into the same manhole on purpose.

What's the issue with reminding people of what a s#it show Pakistan has been? look at the s#it show running in front of us now.

Nations that forget these tragic periods of their history will eventually seize to exist.

3. You've been ousted once & now have a fair understanding how politics work at the highest level. If you still haven't had an understanding/feel of whom to trust - than you're not the man for the job.

I think its been explained very well how he was ousted! cuzz surely you keep up-to-date on the events.

4. Its time to surround yourself with persons that have an understanding of specialized fields. You need not make them a Minister, but have them as consultants. Lord knows you need some serious advice how to deal with the Foreign Press. Before making tweets like Donald Trump, have someone do fact checks before becoming a target of memes for the opposition.

I am pretty sure, Very sure that IK brought the most amount of people that knew the subject matter than say noon-leak. Noon leak has one professor that knows it all. Not entirely sure where you got this idea from. What do you think about Sania Nishtar? The Iron Lady who is behind Health Card? The farming policy for example! Maybe you don't think planting trees was a good idea. Or the way his team advised him in corona to not follow the whole world with closure of business!

5. Do Not interfere in the matters of the Establishment - even if you're the PM. Didn't go all to well the last time around. I'd hate to do a Video Edit called 'Same Page'.

Establishment needs to be put into its place. I accept that I have defended the establishment in the past but no more. Now I think that all those poor souls who face unnecessary hardships in the country is because of the establishment. The finger can easily be pointed to the establishment for bringing ruins to Pakistan.

6. If you need to give NRO to X-number of persons, be done with it & move on. Shehzad Akbar couldn't get back a dime from the UK Government & its water under the bridge.

bloody hell. When will the average Pakistani get an NRO? Why do thieves, crooks and traitors get an NRO? Why? Why don't the establishment give NRO to the hungry? To the ones who live under the open sky? The ones who choose to live an honest lives but have to participate in corrupt practices otherwise they are doomed!

His (my father's) reference was not Al' Mighty, but hinted towards the USofA. Its the Pandora's Box. A Death Trap. A highway to nowhere that can only lead to the suffering of your people. Those who used to say, "Don't be a slave of the US", ask those persons what do you have to say now when your Country is on the brink of default.

Its clear as day, that in the past couple of months IK's tone from 'Absolutely not' has shifted to, "We want to have good relations with the US".

Politics is certainly not my forte, however, I feel with all flaws IK has had as a PM, i'd be best suited if he remain Leader of Political Party like Sonia Gandhi & appoint someone as PM. People like Hammad Azhar would certainly be a good candidate if such an arrangement could be made. IK is already in his 70's and if PTI is to have a future, they need to groom the younger capable members in the Party.

Apologies to the PTI Supports, but we all need to contribute to what needs to be done in order to sail the Country we call Pakistan in the right direction.

Remember guys, just points will do..., and don't get into a P!ssing Contest with another Member.

Well Here is my question are you a noon league? If yes, Why?

At least for the first time someone in Pakistan told the yanks NO. Yanks are not god! people in the power corridors may think that but the average Pakistani doesn't!

I am pretty sure He stands by his absolutely not, unless you can show me otherwise. As for relationship with the US I am pretty sure he did say we are not your slaves. On equal terms like india has with the yanks.

 

[tman786]

Without jailing traitors in the armed forces who are responsible for the mess we are in and stopping the lavish lifestyle in the military at senior levels, there is no democracy.

Wholesale reform of the armed forces is of utmost priority for a successful future for the nation.

No general should be allowed to retire and move abroad. Senior military officials should not be given plots. Senior military officials should not be involved in businesses other than defense related.

Military officials involved in Arshad Shareef murder, curtailment of media, manipulation of justice system, undermining the constitution and democracy in Pakistan will require court-martials and death sentences. This will also need to include PDM officials who undermined democracy

Then we move into the media, yawn news and Geo must be shut down. Paid journalists thrown into jail.


I could go but I'm watching Netflix

 

[COOKie LOOkie....]

Here is my advise to the PTI folks

1) IK is your quintessential politician who is pulling wool over your eyes. It is time you wake up and smell the coffee.

2) No. IK is not a pacifist rather he is using it as an excuse to avoid fighting with India. He is on India's payroll.

3) IK is NOT naive. IK has corrupt people all around him and he made them part of his team with full knowledge

4) IK's goal is to malign our wardi and spoil our relations with key allies like the US. He is very dangerous and is hell bent on distroying Pakistan.

5) IK has strong jewish lobby behind him. Don't take his drama baazi seriously.

Advise denied!!

All your accusations are funny! Can you back any of them at all.
One thing i seriously dont understand whats up with this jewish lobby bs.
What have the jews done to you. Ask any jew they dont even know where pakistan is let alone care about their matters. This bs is spewed to pakistani public by the mullahs, army and stupid politicians for their own gains.

Take IK to court for your accusations stop wasting bandwidth and our time go and prove him guilty there. So sick and tired of this drama.

 

[Baburfromsarmarkand]

Imran Khan is possibly Imam mendhi, he has potential to lead the muslims out of darkness