IED Blast in Parachinar

[BHarwana]

I clearly mentioned the word Reports no need to hyped over nothing. It is ok to pessimistic but to deny something outright is simply ridiculous just bcz it doesn't compound with your thought process. In my first comment training inside Pakistan was just one Part. I was trying to focus on aspect the many fighters of Zanibyoon brigade belong to Parachinar but you went all Rambo on me for nothing.

I never went Rambo on you my friend, I am just having an argument with you & in that process I am disagreeing with you & I hope you will disagree with me that is how we discuss things. If some where I went harsh means that I was pointing some fact & I would love that you would counter it so that I can learn more. Coming back to topic still your pointed out concerns are not valid in my opinion as the attack was on fruit market & not on any camp. I can maneuver your post in 5 mins to make you look like a bad person by simply saying that you are trying to justify a terrorist attack but I am not doing it cause I want to have a healthy discussion with you. You said the attack was done cause there are Iranian affiliated camps & people there from Iran's recruited militias but were those people training in a fruit market? no they were not so how is attack on Iran? It was an attack on Pakistani soil done by anti Pakistani elements. The objective of the attack was to start a sectarian hate. That sectarian hate will help Indian agenda so this terrorist attack has Indian footprint in it.

 

[Genghis khan1]

Shia population in Pakistan is 20% it is the official figure. That is a huge chunk of Population.
Moving on to your myth of some kind. There are currently 2 major Shia countries 1 Iran and 2 Iraq. Where these people can easily do what ever they want.

Regarding Afghanistan you are not making sense either a shia is pro Iran or pro USA he cannot be both if he is involved in some sort of proxy. At least you have to consider that fact.

Unless you quote me census data, figure is wrong. Most figures fluctuate between 5%- 15%. Rest, Your statement isn’t make much sense. Just take my word an accept it as reality. If it’s not making sense to you than that is because you don’t have exposure to the world.

 

[BHarwana]

5%- 15%

Fluctuation between 5% to 15% lol seriously that is a huge fluctuation bro do realy know how much is that number in regards to actual people? 5% meas 10 million & 15% means 30 million people. I will consider you wrong here just based on your fluctuation margin. those are lot of people you are fluctuating bro. I would say bro chop the monkey's tail & lets settle on the official figure which is 20%.

 

[El Sidd]

so Sad Pakistan's top general is being leased out to that incompetent insecure Saudi-led "security coalition"...Pakistan needs to bring that genius Kayani back though..

Mr. Kiyani and Mr. Sharif have helped Nigeria as well in counter terrorism efforts.

This is another incident of local tribes sorting out their historical differences. A governance failure in part the government.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

That is correct. Shia’s Villages overwhelming supported and helped ANA and US forces in Afghanistan. Infact they were the best recruited HUMINT Assets in tribal area. Met few in Afghanistan and US.

That was in Afghanistan, because the Afghan Taliban perpetrated quite a few atrocities on Afghan Shia when they were in control. Can’t blame them for using the opportunity to settle the score.

Don’t lump everyone in the same boat - Pakistan has different dynamics.

 

[Genghis khan1]

That was in Afghanistan, because the Afghan Taliban perpetrated quite a few atrocities on Afghan Shia when they were in control. Can’t blame them for using the opportunity to settle the score.

Don’t lump everyone in the same boat - Pakistan has different dynamics.

Not, when it comes to sectarianism.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Your data is wrong cause Shia are twice the figure you quoted. Secondly why would Shias try to start a proxy war in Pakistan? What is Pakistan doing wrong to Shias? Shais are most free in Pakistan & can join & take any military to political post in Pakistan. Many times Pakistan had a Shia Prime Minister in the country & majority of Shia Pakistanis have not voted for a Shia political party in Pakistan but vote for Sunni leader. Again you are not making sense.

Some people can’t get beyond their sectarian hatred to simply accept that Pakistani Shia are loyal to Pakistan because they are Pakistani and love the country, and instead come up with all these BS reasons about ‘oh, they’re just doing it out of fear’ or XYZ ‘benefit’.

Not, when it comes to sectarianism.

Not what?

 

[BHarwana]

Some people can’t get beyond their sectarian hatred to simply accept that Pakistani Shia are loyal to Pakistan because they are Pakistani and love the country, and instead come up with all these BS reasons about ‘oh, they’re just doing it out of fear’.

What fear? Living as a Shia in Pakistan is much more easier than some of the Shia majority countries in the world.

 

[Genghis khan1]

Some people can’t get beyond their sectarian hatred to simply accept that Pakistani Shia are loyal to Pakistan because they are Pakistani and love the country, and instead come up with all these BS reasons about ‘oh, they’re just doing it out of fear’ or XYZ ‘benefit’.


Not what?

I talk facts and figures and may be know things or two. unlike you, whose whole purpose of jumping late into an argument is to find a defensive post because reality doesn’t suits your version of the world. I stated ground realities, it’s your personal biased that everything seems Shia hatred to you.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Human mind, needs, fears and emotional complexities are way more complex than simple statistics Equation. Iran doesn’t own Shia. Just because average Shia have favorable view about Iran doesn’t mean They will not take US dollars to fight Hardline Sunni who few years back kick them out of Kabul. Not to mention, Iranian version of Shia doctrine consider hardline Sunnis their Religious enemy. Rest I know Shia folk like to over inflate their numbers but figure is around 10% (+/-3).

This is pretty offtopic, but in Afghanistan, Shias were only a component, most of the opposition against Taliban was led by Northern Alliance, which were mostly Tajik Sunnis. Ofcourse they were close to Iran, Russia, India, and other countries too.

 

[El Sidd]

Another thread destroyed by the usual suspects with laymen understanding of conflicts and warfare.

 

[Falcon26]

What is going on here? Is this video authentic? If so, this is really bad. Troops shouldn’t be targeted this way. After all, they put their lives on the line protecting the very same public.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1286509967676248064

 

[El Sidd]

What is going on here? Is this video authentic? If so, this is really bad. Troops shouldn’t be targeted this way. After all, they put their lives on the line protecting the very same public.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1286509967676248064

This town is historically a no go area for most people. One has to rely on connections to pass through safely.

Sorry if this opinion does not fit the tourism agenda of the government.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I talk facts and figures and may be know things or two. unlike you, whose whole purpose of jumping late into an argument is to find a defensive post because reality doesn’t suits your version of the world. I stated ground realities, it’s your personal biased that everything seems Shia hatred to you.

The ground reality is that I come from a primarily Shia family so please don’t try to tell me why I or my family are ‘loyal to Pakistan’.

 

[Genghis khan1]

The ground reality is that I come from a primarily Shia family so please don’t try to tell me why I or my family are ‘loyal to Pakistan’.

I know this, that’s why I said, you need to look beyond your personal biased To understand the situation.

No where I imply, that Shia’s are not loyal.

Just stating the driving factors for them to jump on the US train wagon in Afghanistan and Iraq.