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IDF vs Hamas naval commando

Wishfull thinking. Just because Hamas gets some simple and easy to intercept rockets and sends some men on israeli beaches?

They are dead now and you call their senseless death spectacular???

Pure stupidity.
So are the russians in Donetsk terrorists too?
 
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The "legality" of the Ottomans and British was the legality of the colonialist.

I never said Israel was illegal. It is patently legalized by the UN. But the legality is the legality by force of guns. Whatever colonial Britain did in India was also "legal" because the Brits wrote the laws.

Similarly, the UN is the legal charade around the military power of the major powers when it was formed. If, tomorrow, country X discovers a superweapon which is invincible to current technology, that country can form its own UNSC and pass all the laws it wishes.

The fact that the locals didn't want the Jewish migration is evident to anyone who cares to open the newspaper for the last seventy plus years.

If a bunch of Muslims invaded a land, kicked out most non-Muslims, and declared an Islamic State, you would be shouting about Islamic fanaticism.

When a bunch of Jews do the same, you don't have the intellectual honesty to condemn it.

THAT shows your inherent bias.

The vote for the creation of Israel was in the General Assembly, not in the SC.
You are clearly not very educated on the history.

Since there has been no invasion, but mass-immigration your comparision falters.
To call it "kick-out" is oversimplifying. They were ordered out by the Arab countries attacking Israel,
but obviously some may have escaped out of fear, but there has been no persecution motivating such fear,
after the war.

If you call mass-immigration, invasion, then Muslims ARE invading Europe, and the racists are shouting.
When Muslims "invaded" Kosovo, they were defended by the West against atrocities of the Serbs.
Bosnia got the support of the West vs Serbs.
This clearly shows that it is the circumstances, and not religion that counts.

How often do a Muslim take the side of a non-Muslim in a strife Muslim vs a non-Muslim?
Have not seen You do it, so I ask myself, who's the bigot?
 
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I've missread something, sorry

You are way too much anti israel. Hamas are the bad guys. And their supporters from rich gulf states or Turkey.

Israel is a state born out from the holocoust. They will always act harshly against any kind of threat against their people. Firing rockets at them is the biggest stupidity an arab can make.
 
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You are way too much anti israel. Hamas are the bad guys. And their supporters from rich gulf states or Turkey.

Israel is a state born out from the holocoust. They will always act harshly against any kind of threat against their people. Firing rockets at them is the biggest stupidity an arab can make.
Hamas are bad guys, that's why i was talking about Islamic Jihad

Hamas are well known for beeing traitors and taking the money from Israel
Israel always create bad guys as Hamas & zionist Al Qaeda

And for Israel you obviously don't live in France, where the medias owned by the JEWS bash each time they can Russia

I remind that Marx, Trotsky, Lenine killed millions of russians and with communism, which was destroyed in 1989. They pushed Hitler to hate the russians for communism

The killed JEWS are converted askhenaz JEWS that would be embarassing at the moment of creating Israel
 
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Too bad they didn't dig the tunnel into the terror kibbutz
 
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The vote for the creation of Israel was in the General Assembly, not in the SC.
You are clearly not very educated on the history.

YOU got thoroughly thrashed last time you bungled around this topic and you are back for more punishment.

I guess your bigotry clouds your intellect.

A General Assembly vote is worthless since it is non-binding. Even a UNSC vote is only enforced by the military might of the UNSC members.

ANY vote in the UN is only as good as the willingness of the UN to enforce it.

Israel's legitimacy in the UN is backed by the military might of the US and other European military powers. Israeli routinely thumbs its nose at any UN resolutions it doesn't like.

Since there has been no invasion, but mass-immigration your comparision falters.
To call it "kick-out" is oversimplifying. They were ordered out by the Arab countries attacking Israel,
but obviously some may have escaped out of fear, but there has been no persecution motivating such fear,
after the war.

If you call mass-immigration, invasion, then Muslims ARE invading Europe, and the racists are shouting.
When Muslims "invaded" Kosovo, they were defended by the West against atrocities of the Serbs.
Bosnia got the support of the West vs Serbs.
This clearly shows that it is the circumstances, and not religion that counts.

The Jewish migration was sanctioned by colonial rulers against the wishes of the local population. Hence it was a colonial invasion.

Since your bigotry restricts your intellect in this matter also, the comparable example would be if the Nazis occupying France had allowed masses of Africans to colonize Paris, kicking out the French, and then Germany continued to support the Parisian colonial outpost against the wishes of the French people.

If your bigotry can take a break, you will see the difference between this scenario and the scenario of legal migrants to Europe who are following the rules laid down by the elected, democratic governments there..

Your ludicrous example of Kosova shows your ignorance once again, since you can't differentiate between people migrating and people converting to a religion.. Also, your understanding of why the West supported the Kosovars against he Serbs is sorely lacking the wider geopolitical context (hint: it had nothing to do with religion)..

How often do a Muslim take the side of a non-Muslim in a strife Muslim vs a non-Muslim?

Plenty of times. Your ignorance has no impact on reality.
My positions are based in principle, unlike yours which are based on your unmitigated hatred of Muslims and intellectual dishonesty to accept criminal acts by Jews.

Have not seen You do it, so I ask myself, who's the bigot?

That would be YOU as always.
 
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YOU got thoroughly thrashed last time you bungled around this topic and you are back for more punishment.

I guess your bigotry clouds your intellect (and I use the word loosely).

A General Assembly vote is worthless since it is non-binding. Even a UNSC vote is only enforced by the military might of the UNSC members.

ANY vote in the UN is only as good as the willingness of the UN to enforce it.

Israel's legitimacy in the UN is backed by the military might of the US and other European military powers.



The Jewish migration was sanctioned by colonial rulers against the wishes of the local population. Hence it was a colonial invasion.

Since your bigotry restricts your intellect in this matter also, the comparable example would be if the Nazis occupying France had allowed masses of Africans to colonize Paris, kicking out the French, and then Germany continued to support the Parisian colonial outpost against the wishes of the French people.

If your bigotry can take a break, you will see the difference between this scenario and the scenario of legal migrants to Europe who are following the rules laid down by the elected, democratic governments there..

Your ludicrous example of Kosova shows you making a fool of yourself yet again due to your bigotry, since you can't differentiate between people migrating and people converting to a religion..



Plenty of times. Your ignorance has no impact on reality.
My positions are based in principle, unlike yours which are based on your unmitigated hatred of Muslims and intellectual dishonesty to accept criminal acts by Jews.



That would be YOU as always.

What trashing. you were out on a wild goose chase with failed arguments.

Arabs put their case to the UN and lost. Even if it is non-binding
it gives legality to the Israeli Declaration of Independence.

There are laws guiding occupation, and then there are laws guiding how to run your country.
If France had signed an agreement with Germany, ceding Paris to Germany, German law counts,
and if they choose to import Africans, then any African moving to Paris would be 100% within the law.
If Germany merely occupies territory, other rules apply.
 
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India and Israel: a friendship deepened by prejudice | Kapil Komireddi | Comment is free | theguardian.com

Indians love anyone who kills Muslims.

The Israelis are efficient at killing -- but so were the Nazis. I guess the Israelis learned well.

if thats the criteria India will fall in love with muslims hopelessly. No one can kill more muslim than muslims themselves!

A General Assembly vote is worthless since it is non-binding. Even a UNSC vote is only enforced by the military might of the UNSC members.

ANY vote in the UN is only as good as the willingness of the UN to enforce it.

Israel's legitimacy in the UN is backed by the military might of the US and other European military powers. Israeli routinely thumbs its nose at any UN resolutions it doesn't like.



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saved for kashmir debates ;)

so why pakistan always cries for UN resolution of kashmir !!
 
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What trashing. you were out on a wild goose chase with failed arguments.

The thrashing is your continued inability to understand that ANY law on earth -- from parking zones to national borders -- is backed by force of guns. If the authority issuing a law lacks the military power to enforce the laws, then the law is worthless.

The UN's "legitimacy" is by force of military power of the major powers, most of whom are pro-Israel or, at best, neutral. None of the UNSC members -- who are the military muscle behind the UN -- are staunchly pro-Arab.

Arabs put their case to the UN and lost. Even if it is non-binding
it gives legality to the Israeli Declaration of Independence.

There are laws guiding occupation, and then there are laws guiding how to run your country.
If France had signed an agreement with Germany, ceding Paris to Germany, German law counts,
and if they choose to import Africans, then any African moving to Paris would be 100% within the law.
If Germany merely occupies territory, other rules apply.

Modern laws about occupation are a recent advent; they did not apply prior to the world wars. The League of Nations was an impotent farce.

Britain's decision to steal Palestinian land and give it to the Jews was made when colonialists had free rein over what they did. Look up any number of treaties that the colonialists (British, French, Dutch) signed amongst themselves and with others. There was absolutely no consideration given to the people living on the land.

As for the example I gave, France was in no position to cede anything. Germany was the conqueror and could do whatever they wished. In case you missed the analogy, France = Palestinians, Germany = Britain, and Africans = Jews in that example.

so why pakistan always cries for UN resolution of kashmir !!

Because Pakistan is weak and the leaders of Pakistan like to make noises without actually doing anything.
 
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IDF vs Hamas naval commando

We all remember how the mighty Israeli naval special forces got their A$$E$ handed to them by a bunch of Turkish cookers.
 
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