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IAF's Avro replacement: Decision likely soon
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Defence Acquisition Council meet likely today, Avro replacement project on agenda | Zee News
New Delhi: Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar will chair the meeting of Defence Acquisition Council likely to be held on Monday during which the issue of the USD 2.5 billion Avro replacement programme is likely to be discussed among others.
Defence sources had earlier said that the DAC is likely to meet today. "The tentative date for DAC is Monday," the sources said.
One of the main issues that are likely to be discussed is the lone bid of Airbus-TATA consortium to replace IAF's ageing fleet of 56 Avro aircraft with C-295 transport carriers.
A final decision was anticipated in November last year but Parrikar had then sought more information about the necessity of the aircraft and the bidding process.
Under the current defence procurement policy, single-vendor situation is not entertained unless cleared by the DAC.
One of the options, besides selecting the consortium, is to go in for re-tendering in which the Indian companies become the main player rather than the foreign ones.
Another option is putting the project on hold and go ahead with the joint development and production of 'Multi-role Transport Aircraft' with Russia, defence analysts said.
Interestingly, two foreign firms have written to the Defence Ministry expressing their interest to be part of the Avro replacement programme even though they had stayed away from the original bidding process.
Both the companies have offered to set up their respective platforms in India with local partners to meet the IAF requirement for the replacement of the ageing fleet of 56 Avro transport aircraft, the defence sources said.
A committee set up by Parrikar to look into the lone bid has already submitted its report.
The committee was looking into the details and procedures of the bid since only one consortium responded to the Request for Proposal (RFP) for the Avro replacement programme.
The defence sources said that the committee in its report last month suggested various changes to attract greater private sector participation.
In May, 2013, the ministry had issued an RFP to original equipment manufacturers, including US firms Boeing and Lockheed Martin, European multinational Airbus Defence and Space and Antonov of Ukraine, among others.
They were required to tie-up with an Indian private firm to produce 40 of the aircraft in the country while the remaining 16 were to be bought off the shelf.
However, only a single bidder -- the Airbus Defence and Space and Tata Advanced Systems Ltd (TASL) consortium -- had shown an interest in the proposal in October last year.
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Defence Acquisition Council meet likely today, Avro replacement project on agenda | Zee News
New Delhi: Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar will chair the meeting of Defence Acquisition Council likely to be held on Monday during which the issue of the USD 2.5 billion Avro replacement programme is likely to be discussed among others.
Defence sources had earlier said that the DAC is likely to meet today. "The tentative date for DAC is Monday," the sources said.
One of the main issues that are likely to be discussed is the lone bid of Airbus-TATA consortium to replace IAF's ageing fleet of 56 Avro aircraft with C-295 transport carriers.
A final decision was anticipated in November last year but Parrikar had then sought more information about the necessity of the aircraft and the bidding process.
Under the current defence procurement policy, single-vendor situation is not entertained unless cleared by the DAC.
One of the options, besides selecting the consortium, is to go in for re-tendering in which the Indian companies become the main player rather than the foreign ones.
Another option is putting the project on hold and go ahead with the joint development and production of 'Multi-role Transport Aircraft' with Russia, defence analysts said.
Interestingly, two foreign firms have written to the Defence Ministry expressing their interest to be part of the Avro replacement programme even though they had stayed away from the original bidding process.
Both the companies have offered to set up their respective platforms in India with local partners to meet the IAF requirement for the replacement of the ageing fleet of 56 Avro transport aircraft, the defence sources said.
A committee set up by Parrikar to look into the lone bid has already submitted its report.
The committee was looking into the details and procedures of the bid since only one consortium responded to the Request for Proposal (RFP) for the Avro replacement programme.
The defence sources said that the committee in its report last month suggested various changes to attract greater private sector participation.
In May, 2013, the ministry had issued an RFP to original equipment manufacturers, including US firms Boeing and Lockheed Martin, European multinational Airbus Defence and Space and Antonov of Ukraine, among others.
They were required to tie-up with an Indian private firm to produce 40 of the aircraft in the country while the remaining 16 were to be bought off the shelf.
However, only a single bidder -- the Airbus Defence and Space and Tata Advanced Systems Ltd (TASL) consortium -- had shown an interest in the proposal in October last year.
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I'm half expecting Parrikar to push back making a decision on this deal one way or another- AGAIN. For all his promise and hype he has fallen well short of his "decisive" image.
This is dumb reporting, the two are not mutually exclusive projects. The MTA and Avro replacement are on the horizon. The way this is being phrased they are saying the MTA is currently on hold and could be given the go ahead only if this Avro-replacment/C-295 deal is scrapped when in reality the MTA project (should) be under development regardless.
Such stupidity on display.
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True, but the same is the case for the government as a whole, so he seems to be in line with party politics, rather than be out of the box. That's what disappoints me the most, I hoped for a strong DM that is able to stand against the PM or the FM, for the need of the forces if necessary and not just another puppet, that has to justify party policies in front of the media. I still wait for his DPP changes, but at the end of this month his is 6 month in office and don't had much to show.
That is right. We must vote for Rahul Gandhi and Sonia Gandhi. We read you loud and clear
Amen.
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If India can make the C130J in the country, that sounds like a solid deal.
16 C17
65+ C130J
12 +Airbus for AEWACS and A2A refuel
16 C17
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Govt nod to Rs 11,930 cr Airbus-TATA consortium bid to replace Avro fleet | Zee News
Last Updated: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 - 23:09
New Delhi: The government tonight cleared the lone bid of Airbus-TATA consortium for replacing Indian Air Force's fleet of ageing Avro transport aircraft for Rs 11,930 crore besides approving Russia's offer to build Kamov Ka-226T helicopters under 'Make in India' initiative.
The Defence Acquisition Council (DAC), which met here, also cleared the proposal to convert two Boeing 777-300 ER for VVIP travel, defence sources said.
Other major proposals cleared in the meeting, chaired by Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar, included six new BrahMos supersonic cruise missile systems for the Indian Navy worth Rs 2,700 crore and acquisition of 145 pieces of M777 Ultra-Light Howitzers from the US under a government to government deal.
The DAC also set up a committee to work out the modalities, like price and offset, for the purchase of 36 Rafale fighter jets from France.
The big take-away from today's meeting was the approval of the bid of Airbus-TATA consortium to replace IAF's 56 Avro aircraft with C-295 transport carriers.
While 40 aircraft would be manufactured here, 16 would be bought off-the-shelf.
A final decision was anticipated in November last year but Parrikar had then sought more information about the necessity of the aircraft and the bidding process.
Under the current defence procurement policy, single- vendor situation is not entertained unless cleared by the DAC.
In May 2013, the ministry had issued a Request for Proposal (RFP) to original equipment manufacturers, including US firms Boeing and Lockheed Martin, European multinational Airbus Defence and Space and Antonov of Ukraine, among others.
They were required to tie-up with an Indian private firm. However, only Airbus and TATA responded to the RFP.
"The Avro deal will create necessary eco-system for the growth of domestic aerospace industry," the sources said.
Another major bid that has been cleared is the Russian proposal to assemble advance twin engine Kamov helicopters.
The offer was made during the visit of Russian President Vladimir Putin last year in December.
Sources said that 200 light utility helicopter Kamov Ka-226T would be manufactured in India under Make in India initiative, adding that the cost and other modalities would be worked out later. They also said that some could be bought off the shelf.
The DAC also cleared Army's proposal to buy 145 pieces of BAE's M777 Ultra-Light for Ts 2,900 crore. The Army is in desperate need of new artillery guns.
Sources said this deal would be through Foreign Military Sales (FMS) but the "spares, maintenance and ammunition will be operated through Indian systems".
The Indian Navy will get six new BrahMos supersonic cruise missile systems, with a range of 290 KMs worth about Rs 2,700 crore.
These would be fitted on board Talwar and Delhi class ships, the sources said.
The government also decided to take Air India's two Boeing 777-300 extended range (ER) as a replacement to the ageing Jumbo Jets used as VVIP aircraft for flying our President and the Prime Minister on long overseas tours.
The sources said no additional cost would be incurred on procurement of these aircraft. However, the aircraft will undergo a refit to cater to security threats and other aspects.
The aircraft, likely to be called Air Force One like that of American President, will be fitted with advanced self-protection suites to jam and beat hostile incoming missiles and encrypted satellite communication facilities.
"The two aircraft are seven-year-old and in excess which will be configured to VVIP planes," the sources said.
The DAC also cleared the Navy's proposal for setting up tele-medicine facilities for a cost of Rs 61.59 crore. It also allotted Rs 30 crore for "commencement of preparatory work for construction of Indian Aircraft Carrier 2".
The DAC also approved ALG communication terminal for the IAF at a cost of 149 crore.
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The Airbus Military C295 is a new generation, very robust and reliable, highly versatile tactical airlifter able to carry up to nine tonnes of payload or up to 71 personnel, at a maximum cruise speed of 260 kt /480 km/h. Fitted with a retractable landing gear and a pressurised cabin, it can cruise at altitudes up to 25,000 ft, while retaining remarkable short take-off & landing (STOL) performance from unprepared short, soft and rough airstrips, as well as low level flight characteristics. Powered by two Pratt & Whitney Canada PW127G turboprop engines, the C295 provides an excellent manoeuvrability, outstanding hot and high performance, low fuel consumption and consequently a very long endurance of up to eleven hours in the air.First delivered in 2001, the C295 is a developed version of the well-known CN235, offering greater capacity and range. Its simple systems design and robustness, its proven in service reliability, its excellent flying qualities and great versatility, as well as its remarkable transport capabilities make it the most efficient “workhorse” with the lowest fuel burn, as well as the best operating and maintenance costs in its category.. The civil and military certification of the C295 ensures compliance with the international airworthiness regulations and safety standards, including the stringent FAR 25 requirements.
Last Updated: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 - 23:09
New Delhi: The government tonight cleared the lone bid of Airbus-TATA consortium for replacing Indian Air Force's fleet of ageing Avro transport aircraft for Rs 11,930 crore besides approving Russia's offer to build Kamov Ka-226T helicopters under 'Make in India' initiative.
The Defence Acquisition Council (DAC), which met here, also cleared the proposal to convert two Boeing 777-300 ER for VVIP travel, defence sources said.
Other major proposals cleared in the meeting, chaired by Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar, included six new BrahMos supersonic cruise missile systems for the Indian Navy worth Rs 2,700 crore and acquisition of 145 pieces of M777 Ultra-Light Howitzers from the US under a government to government deal.
The DAC also set up a committee to work out the modalities, like price and offset, for the purchase of 36 Rafale fighter jets from France.
The big take-away from today's meeting was the approval of the bid of Airbus-TATA consortium to replace IAF's 56 Avro aircraft with C-295 transport carriers.
While 40 aircraft would be manufactured here, 16 would be bought off-the-shelf.
A final decision was anticipated in November last year but Parrikar had then sought more information about the necessity of the aircraft and the bidding process.
Under the current defence procurement policy, single- vendor situation is not entertained unless cleared by the DAC.
In May 2013, the ministry had issued a Request for Proposal (RFP) to original equipment manufacturers, including US firms Boeing and Lockheed Martin, European multinational Airbus Defence and Space and Antonov of Ukraine, among others.
They were required to tie-up with an Indian private firm. However, only Airbus and TATA responded to the RFP.
"The Avro deal will create necessary eco-system for the growth of domestic aerospace industry," the sources said.
Another major bid that has been cleared is the Russian proposal to assemble advance twin engine Kamov helicopters.
The offer was made during the visit of Russian President Vladimir Putin last year in December.
Sources said that 200 light utility helicopter Kamov Ka-226T would be manufactured in India under Make in India initiative, adding that the cost and other modalities would be worked out later. They also said that some could be bought off the shelf.
The DAC also cleared Army's proposal to buy 145 pieces of BAE's M777 Ultra-Light for Ts 2,900 crore. The Army is in desperate need of new artillery guns.
Sources said this deal would be through Foreign Military Sales (FMS) but the "spares, maintenance and ammunition will be operated through Indian systems".
The Indian Navy will get six new BrahMos supersonic cruise missile systems, with a range of 290 KMs worth about Rs 2,700 crore.
These would be fitted on board Talwar and Delhi class ships, the sources said.
The government also decided to take Air India's two Boeing 777-300 extended range (ER) as a replacement to the ageing Jumbo Jets used as VVIP aircraft for flying our President and the Prime Minister on long overseas tours.
The sources said no additional cost would be incurred on procurement of these aircraft. However, the aircraft will undergo a refit to cater to security threats and other aspects.
The aircraft, likely to be called Air Force One like that of American President, will be fitted with advanced self-protection suites to jam and beat hostile incoming missiles and encrypted satellite communication facilities.
"The two aircraft are seven-year-old and in excess which will be configured to VVIP planes," the sources said.
The DAC also cleared the Navy's proposal for setting up tele-medicine facilities for a cost of Rs 61.59 crore. It also allotted Rs 30 crore for "commencement of preparatory work for construction of Indian Aircraft Carrier 2".
The DAC also approved ALG communication terminal for the IAF at a cost of 149 crore.
PTI
The Airbus Military C295 is a new generation, very robust and reliable, highly versatile tactical airlifter able to carry up to nine tonnes of payload or up to 71 personnel, at a maximum cruise speed of 260 kt /480 km/h. Fitted with a retractable landing gear and a pressurised cabin, it can cruise at altitudes up to 25,000 ft, while retaining remarkable short take-off & landing (STOL) performance from unprepared short, soft and rough airstrips, as well as low level flight characteristics. Powered by two Pratt & Whitney Canada PW127G turboprop engines, the C295 provides an excellent manoeuvrability, outstanding hot and high performance, low fuel consumption and consequently a very long endurance of up to eleven hours in the air.First delivered in 2001, the C295 is a developed version of the well-known CN235, offering greater capacity and range. Its simple systems design and robustness, its proven in service reliability, its excellent flying qualities and great versatility, as well as its remarkable transport capabilities make it the most efficient “workhorse” with the lowest fuel burn, as well as the best operating and maintenance costs in its category.. The civil and military certification of the C295 ensures compliance with the international airworthiness regulations and safety standards, including the stringent FAR 25 requirements.
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07-August, 2015 13:54 IST
Medium Transport Aircraft
A proposal to procure 56 transport aircraft as replacement for the ageing fleet of Avro aircraft through ‘Buy & Make’ route has been accorded Acceptance of Necessity (AoN) by the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC). Out of these, 40 aircraft will be manufactured in India by an Indian Production Agency (IPA) from the private sector. Only one vendor has submitted techno-commercial bid in response to the RFP issued and DAC has also accorded approval to go ahead with the procurement process with the single bid received. The cost details are benchmarked and negotiated at contract negotiation stage.
This information was given by Defence Minister Shri Manohar Parrikar in a written reply to Shri Kirti Vardhan Singh in LokSabha today.
07-August, 2015 13:54 IST
Medium Transport Aircraft
A proposal to procure 56 transport aircraft as replacement for the ageing fleet of Avro aircraft through ‘Buy & Make’ route has been accorded Acceptance of Necessity (AoN) by the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC). Out of these, 40 aircraft will be manufactured in India by an Indian Production Agency (IPA) from the private sector. Only one vendor has submitted techno-commercial bid in response to the RFP issued and DAC has also accorded approval to go ahead with the procurement process with the single bid received. The cost details are benchmarked and negotiated at contract negotiation stage.
This information was given by Defence Minister Shri Manohar Parrikar in a written reply to Shri Kirti Vardhan Singh in LokSabha today.
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11-August, 2015 13:18 IST
Production of Aircraft by Tata-Airbus Consortium
A proposal to procure 56 transport aircraft as replacement for the ageing fleet of Avro aircraft through ‘Buy & Make’ route was accorded Acceptance of Necessity (AoN) by the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC). Out of these, 40 aircraft will be manufactured in India by the Indian Production Agency (IPA) chosen by the Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) from the private sector. The Request for Proposal (RFP) was issued to eight global transport aircraft manufacturers on 8th May, 2013. Only a single bid was received in response to the RFP. The DAC constituted an Independent Committee of Experts to look into various issues related to single vendor situation. The report of the Committee was placed before the DAC. After consideration of the report of the Committee and related aspects, DAC, the competent authority under Defence Procurement Procedure, accorded approval to proceed with the case with the single bid received from M/s Airbus Defence and Space S.A.
This information was given by Defence Minister Shri Manohar Parrikar in a written reply to Shri Salim Ansari in Rajya Sabha today.
11-August, 2015 13:18 IST
Production of Aircraft by Tata-Airbus Consortium
A proposal to procure 56 transport aircraft as replacement for the ageing fleet of Avro aircraft through ‘Buy & Make’ route was accorded Acceptance of Necessity (AoN) by the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC). Out of these, 40 aircraft will be manufactured in India by the Indian Production Agency (IPA) chosen by the Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) from the private sector. The Request for Proposal (RFP) was issued to eight global transport aircraft manufacturers on 8th May, 2013. Only a single bid was received in response to the RFP. The DAC constituted an Independent Committee of Experts to look into various issues related to single vendor situation. The report of the Committee was placed before the DAC. After consideration of the report of the Committee and related aspects, DAC, the competent authority under Defence Procurement Procedure, accorded approval to proceed with the case with the single bid received from M/s Airbus Defence and Space S.A.
This information was given by Defence Minister Shri Manohar Parrikar in a written reply to Shri Salim Ansari in Rajya Sabha today.
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