IAF commandos ditch cop after Maoist fire

[Papa]

In Haryana????

Ghanta!!!!

 

[IndianArmy]

I wouldn't term it an act of valor but definitely not an act of cowardice either. If the commandos were to carry an immobile person, they would have been caught and above all the Indian govt. does not permit the Military to conduct an operation against Maoists.

Secondly It is better to call upon CRPF Cobras for assistance which they did, instead of fighting an Unknown Enemy in an Unknown terrain.

Using brains are not forbidden in Military.

 

[OrionHunter]

You just had a third of kashmir while we captured two third even after starting late pushing the tribals back from the areas they held .....go figure

They weren't all tribals by any stretch of imagination! They were mostly regular Pakistani troops! I wish these fellas who claim that 1947 was a Pakistani victory read some history of the Kashmir war before spouting nonsense out here! But then they've been brainwashed to such incredible levels by their propaganda machine that they think they won all wars with India!! Jeeez!

 

[Windjammer]

Its easy sitting behind a keyboard and question battlefield decisions. Some seem wrong with the hindsight but perfectly normal at the moment .. Take an example of FC men who surrender or get captured by TTP. Every time TTP takes prisoners, they end up without their heads. Still we see instances that in a mass attack on an FC post, some FC men are killed and some are taken prisoners. Why do you think those FC men surrender when they know that in all probability, they will be beheaded...

Because in a kill zone, the hope of delaying the inevitable, however slim is better than getting killed on the spot. Its you and I who can objectively analyze this because we are not there..

It's also convenient for a moron to digress from the topic and unable to contain his Pakistan obsession.
This is the title to the thread... IAF commandos ditch cop after Maoist fire - India - DNA.....now where does any key board warrior comes into question, for the OP never even added any POV....the topic is based on an Indian news resource but you had to drag in Pakistan for the brownie points....for the same effort, one could also give the following example which also transpired in India. !!

TN ministers watch as cop bleeds to death : India, News - India Today

 

[SEAL]

Very interesting SOP of IAF commandos.
Shame on IAF.

 

[Infinity]

In Haryana????

Ghanta!!!!

Yaar thread opener ko Kush hone they .................

 

[Windjammer]

IAF copter fired at as landing point was not sanitised; chopper and injured wireless operator abandoned

There has hardly been a faux pas in anti-Naxal operations in recent months as discomfiting to the forces as Friday night’s tactless act in the Chintagufa area in south Chhattisgarh. Security officials unanimously agreed that there was a ‘serious lack of coordination’ among police, paramilitary and Indian Air Force personnel.

On Friday afternoon, during a road opening exercise, the Nine Battalion of the Chhattisgarh Armed Forces (CAF) came under heavy firing from suspected Maoists in the Chintagufa area, resulting in the death of head constable Besuram Mandawi. To evacuate the injured including Platoon commander Nandkishore Bhadoriya and lift Mandawi’s body, an IAF chopper, M1 17, was called from the Jagdalpore airbase by the State police. As it was about to land on the Temelwara helipad, the chopper was fired at from all sides by members of the People’s Liberation Guerrilla Army.

INORDINATELY CLOSE

The close range of the attack has surprised senior security officers. “The proximity of the gunmen was 250-300 metres from the sanitised zone, and was an inordinately close range,” said a senior IAF official involved with the mission. In any conflict area, the security forces are supposed to undergo a ‘sanitisation exercise’ (securing the copter’s landing site by area domination) and the standard practice is to ‘sanitise’ a 3-5 km radius. While it may not be possible to secure a 3-km radius in a forest, an area of 1.5-2 km is normally cleared. “But it is evident that the copter was shot from a distance of 250 metres,” said the official.

However, Chhattisgarh police chief Ram Niwas refused to accept that sanitisation, a responsibility of his force, was inadequate. “If there was no sanitisation, how did the entire crew survive? Given that it is a hostile area, the best possible sanitisation was done, and hence velocity [of bullet] was reduced.”

A police release said wireless operator of the district police M. Sahu, who was inside the chopper, got shot and the pilot had to make an emergency landing. All six IAF members including two of the Special Forces unit, Garud Commando Force, ‘walked to the local police station [Chintagufa] only at night and informed the police of the incident,’ the release said. The injured Sahu was left alone in the chopper for five hours, approximately between 5 and 10 p.m. until a joint force of the CRPF (150 Battalion) and Cobra (201 Battalion) rescued him. The officers and personnel of the Chhattisgarh police were left bewildered. “How can one leave an injured comrade in enemy controlled areas and slip into a safer zone? Even Maoists don’t do that,” said a senior police officer. The IAF official, however, said the allegation was a ‘perception’. “The captain of the copter did what he thought was right at that point of time. Moreover, these are highly trained manpower and high value helicopters. We can not waste those. So we feel the gentleman did the right thing by coming out and informing the security personnel,” he told The Hindu on phone on condition of anonymity. The question is why the IAF personnel left behind the ‘high value helicopter’ in the middle of the forest. “As part of the IAF’s standard operating procedure an investigation into the incident has been initiated,” said the official.

Mr. Niwas said he did not want to involve in a ‘blame game in a warlike situation.’ That the Maoists had not taken the injured radio operator hostage also surprised the security officials. Questions have been raised about the role of the State police as well. “It is strange that the police did not go out of the Temelwara camp to rescue Mr. Sahu, a member of their force, while being close to the spot where the copter landed,” said a senior CRPF official.

The Hindu : States / Other States : Chhattisgarh chopper shooting: chinks in anti-Naxal mission

 

[kurup]

It's also convenient for a moron to digress from the topic and unable to contain his Pakistan obsession.
This is the title to the thread... IAF commandos ditch cop after Maoist fire - India - DNA.....now where does any key board warrior comes into question, for the OP never even added any POV....the topic is based on an Indian news resource but you had to drag in Pakistan for the brownie points....for the same effort, one could also give the following example which also transpired in India. !!

TN ministers watch as cop bleeds to death : India, News - India Today

And pakistani always bring India into discussions about pakistan ..We are merely returning the favour .

 

[I spikes therefore I am]

Tamilnadu? , have you ever heard about naxals fate in TN?

Walter Devaram - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[INDIC]

My hometown and my current location are both shown as Naxal hit areas, I never knew it.

 

[Mike_Brando]

Very interesting SOP of IAF commandos.
Shame on IAF.

do you even know how many IAF Garuds were present in that chopper!out of the seven IAF personnel only two were Garuds and on the other hand the strength of the maoists were probably more than 100(as they were ambushing a fully armed Chatt. Armed Police platoon,they must had a strength of at least 100 persons)!so what would you do if you were one of them and the second thing is that the radio operator was badly injured in the leg and was probably not in a position to be moved.so the Garuds used their brains and went to the nearest Police camp which was approx. 1.5km away asap and came back with the COBRA commandos and rescued the injured policeman!there is no shame in that as they did the right thing and live to fight another day.

 

[MST]

It is very hard to understand why the IAF team had to run to the nearest police station to report the location of the crash. Considering there is a wireless operator in the helicopter I am sure there has to be a wireless set too. They should have called for help using the wireless while manning the high value helicopter. The new reports are not telling the complete picture.

The only possible reason I can think of is that they must have strict orders not to be captured by the Maoists so as to avoid embarrassment the govt. And this is the only reason why the moved to a secure location. They most likely couldn't carry the injured wireless operator since he probably was too injured to be moved.

 

[Abingdonboy]

I think they listened to their dog-eat-dog survivial side in this case...

But yes I agree it's very unprofessional

Very interesting SOP of IAF commandos.
Shame on IAF.

You don't seem to understand what happened. There were 1-2 IAF Garuds and then 3-4 IAF helo crew. The commander of the flight ordered the able (IAF personal) to go out and find freindly forces so the IAF crew split into 2 and went seeking out help with the Garuds for cover. The injured person was stable and there was nothing more that could be done for them by the IAF personel and the helo had landed in a relativaly safe location. Now if the IAF crew hadn't gone out into the bush to find help and had stayed with the helo help wouldn't have come so fast as the helo had lost comns so the Moasists could have caputured the helo and the crew. What the IAF actually did was incredibly brave- going into the enemy territory to seek out help after they had just been shot at. You can see there is no way the IAF crew could have protected the helo themselves as the CRPF (now experts in this conflict) deemed it necessary to deploy 150 personal to protect it so clearly 2 Garuds and 4 IAF personal with only sidearms were never going to protect this helo by themselves- they HAD to go and get help and they did. The COBRAs found the helo thanks to the IAF crew.

To call the actions of any of the IAF crew "unprofessional" is so far from the truth it is unreal.

 

[Koovie]

Half of Kashmir became liberated

That's how Pakistan won 1947 war

You invaded an independent state. Not India. India stopped your advance.

 

[karan.1970]

It's also convenient for a moron to digress from the topic and unable to contain his Pakistan obsession.

I touched a nerve it seems

Yeah, and I know your true intention behind this post as always

And I understand your inability to comprehend...