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I played make-believe with the Pakistani military

Whatever the article says, at least this line is a gem. :D
Having read her work over a number of years and the distortions she throws in (along with the plethora of expletives in Urdu and Punjabi - that alone is enough to discard any thought of taking her seriously) she probably made that up ... though I agree it's hilarious.
 
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Wtf did I just read?

Seriously .

Why do we let these people enter Pakistan anyway?

That asshat Haqqani gave 5000 visas to Americans, now who were they and what did they come to do in Pakistan?
 
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Wow, she is fluent in Urdu, something I did not expect .


 
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I was about to start writing a rebuttal but was pleased to see that you had already done it. The article is structured with very little credible information and lacks any sort of substance and is geared solely towards using the author's own opinions and a very rudimentary understanding of Pakistan's performance in COIN Ops to paint PA as a bunch of bumbling buffoons who are gullible enough to be sent to war with little understanding of the military hierarchy's original motives. To be honest, it seemed like a proposal for the next Sgt Bilko movie more than a hard core piece on COIN in Pakistan.
 
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After suffering a concussion while exercising in my hotel room in Swat, I was recuperating in an Islamabad “nail saloon,” as they are called in Pakistan, where Khaled solicitously brought me several copies of the Green Book in a paper bag.
yes that is how we treat national defence material. We put them in paper bags, if it was a local General who wanted it we would have used jute bags.
Nail saloons, she mistakes New York for Islamabad maybe. Must have gotten some good gharda and smoked it up.
At the time, US personnel on-site expressed exasperation that the Pakistanis were slow-balling the training. The facility could train several hundred personnel, yet it was at one-fifth capacity or less. At that rate, it would take literally decades to adequately train all of the Frontier Corps.
American training showed its wonders in Iraq, sorry our troops do not run while leaving all their weapons behind
What’s more, despite the incessant claims that Pashtuns are born shooters, corpsmen are, in fact, hopelessly reliant on ineffectual “spray-and-pray” techniques.
She has no idea about how automatic weapons are used apparently... She confuses a sniper with a G3... Can not blame her,both do go bang bang.
The Americans even provided highly specialized sniper training to those who proved themselves capable. Few were selected for the program and fewer yet graduated.
Comparatively all American troops are born snipers, they just get rifles because they manage pin point accuracy with them. Apparently all those machine guns are for decoration
Other paintings suggested a more plausible explanation: this partially bombed out building had probably been a guesthouse.
Yes our guest house has pictures of women cleaning clothes, and our restaurants have female cooks chained to walls cooking for us
The logic, according to our briefer, was that anyone remaining in the area would be intent on fighting, and thus the Pakistani forces did not need to concern themselves with “collateral damage.”

Of course, it should be noted that the militants who wanted to fight another day just “squirted out,”
Rather we should have just started doing as the Americans do, bomb mercilessly calling all women and children collateral damage
This wasn’t the only story that didn’t add up. We were told the Pakistanis essentially razed the area, but there was entirely too much infrastructure remaining for that to be the case. If they had genuinely hammered the place with F-16s and other combat aircraft, there should have been nothing. Instead, most of the buildings were still standing, albeit a bit worse for the wear.
Yes everyone left their homes, and the terrorists came and dug holes and left. This woman has no idea about precision bombing, someone tell her that carpet bombing is useless in tunnel warfare, apparently she needs to read up on Vietnam
Next, the soldiers demonstrated how they would use a rope to climb a hill. During my orientation, I was told that Mangla “has a terrain that is absolutely like Waziristan.”
She expects the corps to train in Waziristan, excuse me Mr terrorist, can we borrow this terrain for some time. Remind her where the Taliban were trained in the first place
I asked my guide the obvious question of who would put the ropes in place in Waziristan. He declared “Madam! That is a good question. Presumably someone would land atop the mountain in a helicopter and emplace the rope.” I then asked why wouldn’t they just put everyone on the helicopter and deposit them on the hill, thus dispensing with the rope drama altogether. He was not amused.
Yes, we take all our troops on magical helicopters, which can carry hundreds of troops, rather then a strategic insertion by helicopter for an elite unite
This was the smallest black bra I had ever seen. Anywhere. I had seen trainer bras that would accommodate more décolletage than this “made in China,” 32AAA number. You could not fit any significant amount of C-4 (military grade explosives) into it, and you certainly couldn’t cram in ball bearings, bolts, nails, or other sundries that become the deadly shrapnel. The pull cords to detonate the device were placed where playful tassels would be, if a stripper could somehow fit into this thing. I was livid at this final insult to common sense, as well as my wallet. After all, this dog and pony show too had been paid for by my tax dollars.
So the bra was not big enough for her, seriously she wants a bigger bra filled with explosives that will stand out on anyone's chest to say hello I have a bra on with explosives... Apparently the terrorists are smarter then her
Really, I felt terribly for the men in Pakistan’s uniform, whether they were Pakistan’s regular forces or the Frontier Corps. Mostly these men, and many of their commanding officers, had no understanding that the people doing their best to kill them were the legitimate and illegitimate offspring of the purported strategic thinkers in the army and ISI.
Or they were a mess created by America just like they did in Iraq. Wonderful reasoning
But I was exhausted, and frustrated at being repeatedly lied to. I couldn’t help but ask how such a preposterous “brassier-born IED“ could wreak even the slightest damage—by which time my game-show host had too grown exhausted with me. Without an appreciation of irony or humor, he exclaimed in exasperation, “Madam! Maybe it was a booby trap?”
Some one needs to get to her husband quickly
Meanwhile, the protocol officer who accompanied me on all of these trips was a little fellow named Khaled who wore his jeans high up on his waist.
Ok seriously she notices the jeans, not to mention that no one wears jeans if they have anything to do with military and even if they do there is a strict dress code to be followed which does not include waist high jeans worn with a cropped t shirt neatly tucked in
@FaujHistorian any idea what this book is called??
@syedali73 @TankMan @Slav Defence worth the read
@WAJsal something to make you laugh I guess

You answered seriously to all that good for you sir

and a very rudimentary understanding of Pakistan's performance in COIN Ops
what leads you to the conclusion she had any understanding at all of anything military, she she write on the Karadashians
 
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What a mind boggling bunch of bullshit this entire article is.

Not entirely.

OP is from 2010.

Back then, TTP goons were doing victory dance around Pak soldiers. Beheadings by hundreds, kidnappings, of our soldiers was common thing in NWA.
 
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.........paint PA as a bunch of bumbling buffoons who are gullible enough to be sent to war with little understanding of the military hierarchy's original motives.............

Is it more honest to "paint PA as a bunch of dedicated soldiers who are disciplined enough to be sent to war with little understanding of the military hierarchy's original motives" since that would be true for just about every Army worth its salt in the world?
 
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Wow, she is fluent in Urdu, something I did not expect .


An unfortunate waste of a good mind ... there's an oft repeated lament amongst us Pakistanis about how 'so many intelligent Pakistanis end up using that intelligence in pursuit of running elaborate scams for short term gain' - so to in the case of Fair, wasting her intellect, experience and access to various centers of power in Pakistan in pursuit of a predetermined conclusion (vilifying Pakistan and her military) by distorting events and facts available to her.

OP is from 2010.
Fair's narrative hasn't really changed since then - if anything, it's become even more noxious and she, with her diatribes, even more unhinged.
 
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in pursuit of a predetermined conclusion (vilifying Pakistan and her military) by distorting events and facts available to her.

I would be interested in knowing what motives do you attribute this desire of hers to distort events and facts. What could she possibly gain from doing so?
 
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Fair's narrative hasn't really changed since then - if anything, it's become even more noxious and she, with her diatribes, even more unhinged.
Correct.

My comment was specific to 2010. Some times it pays to look at the message and not the messenger.

peace
 
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Not entirely.

OP is from 2010.

Back then, TTP goons were doing victory dance around Pak soldiers. Beheadings by hundreds, kidnappings, of our soldiers was common thing in NWA.
Some points may be accurate, but the conclusions derived from them and the context they are in completely distorts them.
@AgNoStiC MuSliM described it very well in his post

There are too many stupidities, fabrications and contradictions for any of it to be take seriously.
 
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