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I need to speak up now: The economy is on a downward spiral, is poised for a hard landing

Where are the Bhakts? Why are they so quiet these days?


http://indianexpress.com/article/op...i-economy-bjp-i-need-to-speak-up-now-4862716/

I need to speak up now
The economy is on a downward spiral, is poised for a hard landing. Many in the BJP know it but do not say it out of fear

Written by Yashwant Sinha, a member of the BJP and a former finance minister


For quarter after quarter, the growth rate of the economy has been declining until it reached the low of 5.7 per cent in the first quarter of the current fiscal, the lowest in three years. (Representational)

I shall be failing in my national duty if I did not speak up even now against the mess the finance minister has made of the economy. I am also convinced that what I am going to say reflects the sentiments of a large number of people in the BJP and elsewhere who are not speaking up out of fear.

Arun Jaitley is considered to be the best and the brightest in this government. It was a foregone conclusion before the 2014 elections that he would be the finance minister in the new government. His losing his Lok Sabha election from Amritsar was not allowed to come in the way of this appointment. One may recall that in similar circumstances Atal Bihari Vajpayee had refused to appoint Jaswant Singh and Pramod Mahajan, two of his closest colleagues in the party, to his cabinet in 1998. His indispensability was established further when the prime minister rewarded him not only by giving him the finance ministry including the department of disinvestment, but also the ministries of defence and corporate affairs. Four ministries in one go out of which he still retains three. I have handled the ministry of finance and know how much hard work there is in that ministry alone. Finance ministry, in the best of times, calls for the undivided attention of its boss if the job has to be properly done. In challenging times it becomes more than a 24/7 job. Naturally, even a superman like Jaitley could not do justice to the task.

Jaitley was, to begin with, a lucky finance minister, luckier than any in the post-liberalisation era. Depressed global crude oil prices placed at his disposal lakhs of crores of rupees. This unprecedented bonanza was waiting to be used imaginatively. The legacy problems like stalled projects and bank NPAs were no doubt there and should have been managed better like the crude oil bonanza. But the oil bonanza has been wasted and the legacy problems have not only been allowed to persist, they have become worse.

So, what is the picture of the Indian economy today? Private investment has shrunk as never before in two decades, industrial production has all but collapsed, agriculture is in distress, construction industry, a big employer of the work force, is in the doldrums, the rest of the service sector is also in the slow lane, exports have dwindled, sector after sector of the economy is in distress, demonetisation has proved to be an unmitigated economic disaster, a badly conceived and poorly implemented GST has played havoc with businesses and sunk many of them and countless millions have lost their jobs with hardly any new opportunities coming the way of the new entrants to the labour market. For quarter after quarter, the growth rate of the economy has been declining until it reached the low of 5.7 per cent in the first quarter of the current fiscal, the lowest in three years. The spokespersons of the government say that demonetisation is not responsible for this deceleration. They are right. The deceleration had started much earlier. Demonetisation only added fuel to fire.

And please note that the methodology for calculation of the GDP was changed by the present government in 2015 as a result of which the growth rate recorded earlier increased statistically by over 200 basis points on an annual basis. So, according to the old method of calculation, the growth rate of 5.7 per cent is actually 3.7 per cent or less.

Even the SBI, the largest public sector bank of the country, has stated with unusual frankness that the slowdown is not transient or “technical”, it is here to stay and the slowdown in demand has only aggravated the situation. It has openly contradicted what the BJP president said just a few days ago that the slowdown in the last quarter was on account of “technical” reasons and will be corrected soon. According to the SBI chairman, the telecom sector is the latest entrant to the long list of stressed sectors.

The reasons for this decline are not far to seek nor have they appeared suddenly. They have been allowed to accumulate over time to cause the present crisis. It was not difficult to anticipate them and take counter measures to deal with them. But that called for devoting time to the task, serious application of mind, understanding of the issues and then working out a game plan to tackle them. It was perhaps too much to expect from a person who was carrying the heavy burden of so many extra responsibilities. The results are there for all of us to see.

The prime minister is worried. A meeting convened by the prime minister with the finance minister and his officials appears to have been postponed indefinitely. The finance minister has promised a package to revive growth. We are all waiting with bated breath for this package. It has not come so far. The only new thing is the reconstituted Economic Advisory Council of the prime minister. Like the five Pandavas they are expected to win the new Mahabharat war for us.

The performance of the monsoon this year has not been flattering. This will further intensify rural distress. The farmers have received “massive” loan waivers from some state governments varying from one paise to a few rupees in some cases. Forty leading companies of the country are already facing bankruptcy proceedings. Many more are likely to follow suit. The SME sector is suffering from an unprecedented existential crisis. The input tax credit demand under the GST is a whopping Rs 65,000 crore against a collection of Rs 95,000 crore. The government has asked the income tax department to chase those who have made large claims. Cash flow problems have already arisen for many companies specially in the SME sector. But this is the style of functioning of the finance ministry now. We protested against raid raj when we were in opposition. Today it has become the order of the day. Post demonetisation, the income tax department has been charged with the responsibility of investigating lakhs of cases involving the fate of millions of people. The Enforcement Directorate and the CBI also have their plates full. Instilling fear in the minds of the people is the name of the new game.

Economies are destroyed more easily than they are built. It took almost four years of painstaking and hard work in the late nineties and early 2000 to revive a sagging economy we had inherited in 1998. Nobody has a magic wand to revive the economy overnight. Steps taken now will take their own time to produce results. So, a revival by the time of the next Lok Sabha election appears highly unlikely. A hard landing appears inevitable. Bluff and bluster is fine for the hustings, it evaporates in the face of reality.

The prime minister claims that he has seen poverty from close quarters. His finance minister is working over-time to make sure that all Indians also see it from equally close quarters.

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Economy Fine, Yashwant Sinha Frustrated, Case Dismissed, Say BJP Sources

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/i-ne...d-spiral-is-poised-for-a-hard-landing.520248/
 
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5.7% is according to Modi's new "magical" recalculation of the GDP numbers that increased GDP growth by 2-3% overnight.

According to the old calculations, India's economic growth is currently 2.7% to 3.7%.

Imagine Manmohan Singh had brought a growth rate of 2-3%, he would have been crucified. But Modi is being praised for doing exactly the same thing.
They have controls over media. only NDTV criticize them.
 
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Eat liberal amount of beef and die of biogas toxicity. You vermin Indian ISIS bathroom cleaner, you dont hate RSS/Shakha, you hate Hindus. Your days are numbered in India. RSS /Shakas are here forever. AND YES, WE WANT A HINDU UMMA. DEAL WITH IT !!

I had beef and parantha today!
 
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Yashwant Rollback Sinha's Attack On Economy Means Modi's Doing Great :-)

Yashwant Sinha is not an economist. His tenure as Finance Minister was disastrous and shook the faith of the middle class who voted whole-heartedly for the BJP in the 1998 and 1999 elections. The BJP had to pay a heavy price for the UTI scam that affected and shook the faith of the small investor. This along with falling returns on fixed deposits, financial instruments, pension schemes and Provident Funds shattered the faith of the common man in the reform process and that put the BJP on the backfoot for two successive general elections. Farmer distress allowed the Congress to head for the elections with a promise to waive loans, which the UPA famously executed in the fourth year of its first term, leading to a big win in the 2009 election. Yashwant Sinha had become so unpopular with the BJP cadre that finally Atal Behari Vajpayee replaced him with Jaswant Singh, who, as Finance Minister, then retrieved the economy, leading to the "India Shining" slogan of 2004. Perhaps Vajpayee lost because he advanced the polls by over six months, before the fruits of India Shining could percolate to the masses.

https://www.ndtv.com/opinion/yashwa...dis-doing-great-1755823?pfrom=home-topstories
 
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5.7% is according to Modi's new "magical" recalculation of the GDP numbers that increased GDP growth by 2-3% overnight.

According to the old calculations, India's economic growth is currently 2.7% to 3.7%.

No need to show your economic illiteracy. Do you even know its not an absolute % that manifests on top (at most it can be argued to be a non-linear ratio of "older base" %)? Or that it wasn't Modi's decision (decided well before under the UPA) and nothing "magical" (SNA 2008 IMF - go have a read on both their framework and response to India's adoption of it). The old "calculation" would not have produced 2.7 - 3.7% growth today (have you looked into what they exactly sampled compared to today?) because that is faulty extrapolation and comparisons between old and new are really moot to begin with because of said sampling (the sample data would at least have to be the same for us to make commentary on the calculation portion and thus correlation of it).

Some very strong points made, Can they be countered without questioning the credibility of the source ? Which seems to be the only resort left for some

@Nilgiri.. Need some valid explanations

The main explanation is the people that have biggest axe to grind with current administration have a window of about 4 - 6 months to try project their skewed doomsday scenarios because there is a lot going on in Indian economy right now due to the reforms taking place (reforms when they are not 1991 valve-type always tend to have contractionary short term pressure because they upset a certain status quo, i.e for larger creation you need short term destruction, it's seen with private companies too when they undergo major re-organisation)...while fully forgetting what the long term benefits are, especially when expressed by far more credible and neutral organisations:

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...years-morgan-stanley/articleshow/60858026.cms

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...organ-chase/articleshow/60788681.cms?from=mdr

Now not so neutral (guy has vested interest in this administration seeing how he is a top advisor):

http://m.economictimes.com/news/eco...ecipitate-action/amp_articleshow/60823319.cms

The basic sentence that I think is most important:

Any claims of fundamental weakness in the economy are so far unsupported by data.

But overall (though I do not share his much more optimistic take on the situation as whole), it shows what numbers the other side of the coin is ignoring....and why you can cherry pick as you want depending on agenda. I believe we must look at both positives and negatives together (rather than focus on solely one or the other)...and to do that adequately we simply need to give few more quarters given the short time distance currently from demonetisation and GST.

You might remember that I said demonetisation would have much more delayed impulse load (in that thread you tagged me that the article was jumping up and down over next to no impact in the immediate quarter during and after, thinking it would be zero) and hence we continue to see that now....there is probably definitely a "sweet spot" which is right now where demonetisation has most of its negative impact, similar to how many medicines operate (and they feel truly bad at the time, but looking back you are thankful you took them given how things turned out for the better down the road).

Whether it was worth it fully in a fiscal way (because politically there is massive support the administration is getting from common folk) is something we can answer years from now...it depends how the tax sleuths go through the currently stashed "white" (because they are now all in the monetary system...having 99% returned) monies and find how much is laundered etc and compare that to the cost of the whole thing on the economy (probably 1 - 2% of nominal economy spread out over a year) which is also ongoing (though much more perceivable right now). Its a mismatch of time between when the pain and benefits come in essentially. It could have been done better probably (but maybe not given the other black money measures done in succession as part of overall effort), but I do not fault the intention and hindsight is always 20/20....and the hindsight is nowhere near over too.
 
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Yashwant Rollback Sinha's Attack On Economy Means Modi's Doing Great :-)

Yashwant Sinha is not an economist. His tenure as Finance Minister was disastrous and shook the faith of the middle class who voted whole-heartedly for the BJP in the 1998 and 1999 elections. The BJP had to pay a heavy price for the UTI scam that affected and shook the faith of the small investor. This along with falling returns on fixed deposits, financial instruments, pension schemes and Provident Funds shattered the faith of the common man in the reform process and that put the BJP on the backfoot for two successive general elections. Farmer distress allowed the Congress to head for the elections with a promise to waive loans, which the UPA famously executed in the fourth year of its first term, leading to a big win in the 2009 election. Yashwant Sinha had become so unpopular with the BJP cadre that finally Atal Behari Vajpayee replaced him with Jaswant Singh, who, as Finance Minister, then retrieved the economy, leading to the "India Shining" slogan of 2004. Perhaps Vajpayee lost because he advanced the polls by over six months, before the fruits of India Shining could percolate to the masses.

https://www.ndtv.com/opinion/yashwa...dis-doing-great-1755823?pfrom=home-topstories

Reports of insurrection are false

Carry on with your work citizens

The glorious leader knows all and fixes all

All hail muddy!!
 
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most agree that its impact will be very positive in the long run. The current pain of its clogged online system, declined returns, and extended deadlines is testing the government’s bandwidth. Nevertheless, according to the World Bank’s country head, GST is a “tectonic shift” that may propel India into “8% plus growth rate”.
 
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downward spiral of India's economy is good news for Tamils and other oppressed ethnic groups held in captive by Indian state terrorism...... the freedom of occupied states (e.g Kashmir, Tamilnadu, Manipur etc) is only possible when India economy goes bust (by the way - the south states are the main contributors to Indian economy)
a unifeid south asia is wahts needed, this is not possible with indian ultranatioanlism and enemity against pakistam, india would be better off with mulitple states like pakistan, independent kashmir, bangladesh, assam, south india and central india
 
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