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I miss Pervez Musharraf

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He was Pakistan's ticket out of the misery that is holding back the country today but nobody realized it back in the day. He knew how important realpolitik is but the establishment shot him down.

We miss you, sir. :(
musharaf was a sell out he sold many uk pakistanis for dollar or two and these were innocent ppl. plus he was evil he would punish innocent ppl who had genuine concerns aboyt ruling establishment. but like a pussy cat e would lick usa boots and miaw to their commands.
 
He sh1t himself fighting the lawyers.

He sold us so short to the Americans even they were surprised.

He gave all the old scum NRO, in exchange for Kursi for a few more months.

What amnesia do you guys suffer from.
The whole world sided with USA during 9/11.

If you were Musharraf you would not have behaved any differently.
 
Sorry, I don't. We need major restructuring of armed forces. Disbanding all pre partition units and abolishment of such cultures.
We don't need a Musharaf. We need professionals like Raheel Sharif. Do the job and retire with grace.

Hi,

Raheel Shareef was a coward---. He let pakistan down when GCC security was presented on a platter.

He is the worst that pakistan had at times of crisis.
 
Yes - taking power after sending troops to their deaths in Kargil for personal glory. Then instead of actually doing anything against corruption decides to send them all on vacation for his seat - botches WoT response while his cabal lead troops to massacres during the conflict.
Eventually spends more time drunk and dancing before letting the most corrupt regime in Pakistani history come back.. and finally makes money of lectures and books only to be pretty much forgotten and lost.
 
Not more than America's pride over puppet dictators in Pakistan, spilling Pakistani blood as a sacrifice to American interests.
They were enemies of Islam and Pakistan which had to be countered.
Maybe the people worshipping Iran in Pakistan should worry about Pakistani interests and stop spilling Pakistani blood and their used as cannon fodder by Iranians in Syria. Puppet people fighting and dying for their puppet masters whereas Zia fought enemies of Pakistan who wanted to harm Pakistani sovereignty.
 
So CIA determines who is the enemy of Islam and Pakistan. I never got the memo.
No but Islam and Pakistanis determine who is enemy of Islam and Pakistan. Ofc Iranian followers wouldn’t know.
 
We should do it ourselves. Confucius institutes will come with their own baggage.
But Sir, we are not strong enough yet.

We need China's help. Till our economy and industries are developed enough.
 
Zia was a dictator he didn't represent any Pakistani. CIA really did a number of some Pakistanis, how can anyone use the name of Islam to justify America's war, fought with American money and training but with Muslim blood. This is pure CIA propaganda playbook.
Believe what you want to believe but if it wasn’t for Zia, Pakistan would be speaking Russian today.

Hi,

Welcome to the forum.

The memo is only sent to deserving personal.
It’s not secret soviets had its eyes on Pakistan’s ports and iran was looking to expand its influence and revolution in the region. Zia was a genius who used America to defeat soviets who eventually wanted to take over Pakistani ports and zia kept Iran in check while still countering india and achieving the most gdp growth Pakistan seen in its history and reviving the economy Bhutto killed.
 
We only need self discipline and self confidence. The rest will come. Who came to develop China? No one, they did it themselves.
Yes but Russia helped China a lot.

China has many technologies from Russia.
 
He sh1t himself fighting the lawyers.

He sold us so short to the Americans even they were surprised.

He gave all the old scum NRO, in exchange for Kursi for a few more months.

What amnesia do you guys suffer from.
Back then Pakistan was too weak. You would not have behaved any differently if you were Musharraf. Those were desperate times.
 
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He was Pakistan's ticket out of the misery that is holding back the country today but nobody realized it back in the day. He knew how important realpolitik is but the establishment shot him down.

We miss you, sir. :(
Ager Aap Pakistan k elawa kisi aur mulk k rehne walay hain to Allah App K Mulk Me Mushraf Jesa Hukumran Laye. Aameen.
 

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