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I came across this excellent analysis in Quora. Pretty realistic @MilSpec , @Irfan Baloch @Horus @Nicky G

Considering a full fledged war without nukes. And the UN does little.

China asks Pakistan to ready its forces a fortnight prior to the war. Chinese generals realize that it's not going to be a piece of cake, and they are suspicious about Vietnam and Japan.

"...that China must therefore, declare a state of war with India..."

Day 1 (Outbreak of Hostilities)
  • Chinese air force pounds Indian frontier positions in Ladakh and Arunachal Pradesh, followed by strikes on weapon factories in West Bengal.
  • Chinese mass up their forces on their side of the border. The Chinese promise Pakistan some real action with India. (It's gonna be too real)

Day 2 (Enter Pakistan)
  • The Chinese attack along the line in Ladakh, where they outnumber Indians by 3:1, which is quite low in such a treacherous area. They clearly require more efforts. Indians will hold their posts here... at least for a few days.
  • US navy increases patrols in the Pacific. World leaders ask both sides to maintain peace, but are ignored.
  • Pakistan come to aid to their iron brother. Looks like somehow Indians were prepared for this. Our mechanized units tear up the border from Rajasthan. Their sole purpose is to divide Pakistan into two. And they will do it soon.

Day 3
  • Indians go on defensive against PLA. Dogfights all along the border.
  • Evacuation of civilians starts from most of the bordering states in the north.
  • Pakistan attacks vital Indian airfields. Indians retaliate by bombing Karachi.
  • India positions its massive armies to defend against bigger Chinese armies near Siliguri.

Day 5
  • Indian forces overcome tough resistance and take Gujranwala in Pakistan. Mechanized units take Bahawalpur. Indians rejoice.
  • Indian navy blockades Karachi. Pakistan worried. Chinese spotted in the Indian ocean
  • Chinese forces take Indian frontier posts in the North east, and outnumber Indians at 6:1 at various places.
  • Militants on rampage throughout NE.

Day 7
  • US issues a partial embargo on China.
  • Most of the Islamic countries declare that they will back Pakistan.
  • Chinese navy attacks Vishakhapatnam. Indians throw everything at them. Our blockade causes serious trouble in Pakistan by now. Their leadership vows to fight to the end.

Day 10
  • Nepal denies military access to both India and China. Bhutan too.
  • Indian air force bombs vital installations in Pakistan and special forces rampage throughout Baluchistan. China takes Tawang.
  • India takes out Gwadar port after massive casualties.
  • PAF bombs Amritsar, Bhatinda, Jodhpur, Jaisalmer and Sirsa.
Day 15
  • Indians reinforce their positions in Ladakh quickly and send in some elite mountain troops to attack Chinese posts from Himachal border, to divert their attention.
  • Indians act fast and block the Straits of Malacca. China may be in real trouble now. Stock markets become uneasy. Chinese armored units cross into ***.
  • Indian air force bombs Karakoram Highway and take it out. This was really vital to Pakistan. Heavy losses to the Indians, but the job's done.
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Day 17
  • Indian forces finally take over Lahore and advance towards Islamabad.
  • A Pakistani attack on Srinagar fails. IAF bombs Kashgar in China.
  • China takes out major roads in J&K and raids all northern cities.

Day 20
  • Indians take Sialkot in a surprise attack. Mechanized units rush towards Multan. Pakistan in real trouble
  • Pakistan accepts peace and Indian forces recalled from Western front.
  • The Chinese navy throw everything at Indians in Malacca Straits. Indians retreat.
  • Indians counterattack in Ladakh sector and take back some of the posts. Another attack to take back vital choke points in the North east fails.

Day 22
  • IAF takes out some airfields in Tibet.
  • Chinese react by bombing Patna, Lucknow, Meerut, Kanpur, Ambala, Guwahati. Nepal angry about the Chinese crossing into its airspace, but there's nothing they can do. Indian public aroused by a patriotic zeal.

Day 24
  • Indian economy starting to shake. Conscription further deteriorates the situation.
  • The Chinese continue to bomb Indian cities, which leads to an international outcry.
  • US and NATO countries issue a trade embargo on China
  • Russians too issue a partial embargo on China and increase their presence along the border
  • Indian navy tired by now of defending such a long coastline. They embark on one more heroic effort and load BrahMos missiles. I wonder what they are up to...

Day 27
  • Indian navy launches a surprise attack on the naval bases in Southern China.
  • Indian commandos raid Chinese bases deep inside Tibet.
  • Chinese bomb NCR.
Day 30
  • Indian air force bombs industrial ares in Chongqing, Guangzhou. China suspicious that Vietnam is involved. It is.
  • Indians ask for military access from Taiwan and South Korea. They refuse.
  • Someone convinces Uighur and Tibetan people to raid administrative offices and police stations. It's India.
Day 33
  • Chinese say that they might consider a peace offer, with large parts of Arunachal Pradesh annexed plus reparations. Indians reject the peace proposal.
  • Chinese navy attacks Chennai, Vishakhapatnam and Mumbai. Indian public beginning to get frustrated.
  • Chinese air force attacks Vietnamese airbases in the north after Chongqing is raided again.
  • Stock markets are falling at an amazing rate. All ASEAN countries are threatened after raid on Vietnamese airfields. Japan starts providing aid to India.

Day 36
  • Indian navy is exhausted by now. The Chinese control upper Assam.
  • The best weapon India has is its bad roads, which slow down the Chinese.
  • Many of the Indian airbases are completely obliterated by now. Indian economy goes on a free fall.

Day 40
  • The Chinese take Arunachal Pradesh. The Indian premier vows to take it back.
"...We'll take back every inch of our land back from the Chinese invaders..."
  • Chinese navy attacks Andaman and Nicobar. ASEAN countries think about granting India military access.
  • Chinese air force bombs NCR, Kolkata.
  • A counterattack in Assam by India fails miserably. Indians blow up all major roads and railroads to slow down the Chinese.
  • China issues conscription for everyone above 21.
  • US thinks of a plan and grins...

Day 45
  • US and NATO countries start funding rebels in China, Tibetans and Uighurs.
  • Ferocious battles rage on in the mountains. Chinese take Dibrugarh in Assam.
  • China attack Vietnamese positions to teach them a lesson (like they tried in 1979) and fortifies the islands it already occupies like the Senkakus.
  • Vietnamese foil an attack on Haiphong in the north. China withdraws.
  • Pakistan in turmoil even after the war. A civil war begins. The Grand Alliance funds the liberals.
  • PLA overcomes Indian defences in Northern Sikkim at last and advances towards the Silguri Corridor, which will be heavily defended.
Day 47
  • China evaluates it's gains and losses. It has gained large parts of Arunachal and Assam, but at a big cost.
  • The Chinese know that if the war stretches on, the US will find an excuse to get involved .

Day 50
  • Indian defenders race past the Silguri corridor and prepare to defend the mainland with whatever they got.
  • Indian economy on verge of total collapse. Ceasefire announced by China. Pre war borders established.

Aftermath

  • Stable and clear border between India, Pakistan and China. Hopefully.
  • China's plans of world hegemony seriously hampered.
  • Stature of US greatly increased. They will be the real winners.
  • Indian economy goes back at least ten years. Colossal manpower losses, but our elephant will be back on track soon.
  • Chinese growth story stopped. So China loses most in economic terms.
  • Indian foreign policy undergoes a drastic change.
  • Chinese leadership cracks down on Tibetans and Uighurs.
  • India and Vietnam maintain their newfound alliance and are joined by Japan and ASEAN
  • Baluchistan secedes from Pakistan. Pakistan engaged in another war with them soon after.
  • A great loss of credibility of the UN.
Hahahah......Kindly for a moment... peek your history of 1000 years in mind ....then ask yourself.....A country unable to defend its Capital "Delhi" from foreigners......Habit of receiving Heavy blows in Home Ground.
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How all of sudden become champions ....on 2 front WAR..:crazy:
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I dont want to break your heart.....:o:
Yes it is possible....If you've taken so many HAJMOLA PILLS
 
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It is well known that India's thermonuclear test failed. :P

The readings from the explosion indicated that it fizzled, no where close to the explosive power of a successful thermonuclear test.
Only You claimed it the project director Apj abdul Kalam and BARC claimed it was successful they have ground data to prove it.

It was purposely degraded to preserve surrounding villages from the shockwaves of Underground test

If not read it I'm refreshing your knowledge
 
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Hahahah......Kindly for a moment... peek your history of 1000 years in mind ....then ask yourself.....A country unable to defend its Capital "Delhi" from foreigners......Habit of receiving Heavy blows in Home Ground.
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How all of sudden become champions ....on 2 front WAR..:crazy:
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I dont want to break your heart.....:o:
Yes it is possible....If you've taken so many HAJMOLA PILLS

Please reign in the sarcasm. India has to be prepared for two front war, that's the sad reality. Please also restrict the discussion to present and reply logically like so many others have.

All i want to know that is it possible for India to hold its own in a two front war for a long enough period so that other allies like Japan, US etc can help. India spends billions preparing for this possibility so would it be so wrong to test out the scenario?
 
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Only You claimed it the project director Apj abdul Kalam and BARC claimed it was successful they have ground data to prove it.

It was purposely degraded to preserve surrounding villages from the shockwaves of Underground test

If not read it I'm refreshing your knowledge

Our first thermonuclear test in 1967 had a yield of 3.3 megatons.

That was our FIRST thermonuclear test.

How can your test fizzle so badly that the explosive power is only as much as a regular 20kt fission warhead? There is a pretty obvious difference in terms of explosive power between a fission bomb and a thermonuclear warhead.
 
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India may or may not have thermonuclear weapons but the truth is no sane country can risk a nuclear war. Specially not China as it is a leading global power and hence would have a lot to loose.

This is why this discussion is about conventional war as such wars can take place as both India and China have no first use policy.



Sir you over estimate the power of insurgent movements in India

It is a very realistic scenario.

If a two-front war is triggered due to India cross-border terrorism between India-China, India-Pakistan, the India as we know of now will not exist anymore. There will be like 20-25 independent states.

Very realistic...
 
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It is a very realistic scenario.

If a two-front war is triggered due to India cross-border terrorism India-China, India-Pakistan, the India as we know of now will not exist anymore. There will be like 20-25 indepdent states.

Very realistic...

Ok, you are entitled to your opinion. btw what cross border terrorism do we conduct in China?
 
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Please reign in the sarcasm. India has to be prepared for two front war, that's the sad reality. Please also restrict the discussion to present and reply logically like so many others have.

All i want to know that is it possible for India to hold its own in a two front war for a long enough period so that other allies like Japan, US etc can help. India spends billions preparing for this possibility so would it be so wrong to test out the scenario?
They never be to front war Chinese know they have more enemies than friends Japan, vietnam and all ASEAN you name it they all think CCP threat Chinese adventure in SCS also angry USA

Chinese what will they jump into of they go on war now
 
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Countless threads like this, bores me to death. If this ever happens know that the political landscape will be very different.
 
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I don't doubt what you are saying. Infact i think there will be no more full scale wars of India with anyone be it Pakistan or China.

But India spends billions in defense for two front war. If India cannot win or atleast hold its own in two front war in even scenarios then those dollars would find a better use somewhere else/
 
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Ok, you are entitled to your opinion. btw what cross border terrorism do we conduct in China?

Why would China otherwise want to attack India?

The only reason that comes to mind is the cross-border terrorism support that some extremist hindus were talking about giving to terrorists in Tibet or Xinjiang in China after Manipur.
 
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Why would China otherwise want to attack India?

The only reason that comes to mind is the cross-border terrorism support that some extremist hindus were talking about giving to terrorists in Tibet or Xinjiang in China after Manipur.

Please try to understand that this thread is not about why the war happens. Its not a analytical thread that defines geo-political situations.

Its just a war-game scenario nothing more
 
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Please try to understand that this thread is not about why the war happens. Its not a analytical thread define geo-political situations.

Its just a war-game scenario nothing more

It is not a war game scenario, it is more like a computer game scenario from Age-Of-Empires with cheat codes on. :lol:
 
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