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Haq's Musings: Is Modi's Honeymoon Over?

Things are not looking so rosy at home for Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi as he continues his world tour with the latest stop in Beijing, China.



Is Modi government's honeymoon already over on its first anniversary at the helm? Has the Indian economy really turned around? Is it really growing faster than China? Are Indian businesses doing better under the new government? Are investors more excited about India's prospects? Has Indian currency recovered to levels before its collapse in 2013? Is India any cleaner than it was last year? To answer these questions, let's look at some data:

1. Revision of GDP methodology by India's Central Statistical Office (CSO) to show it is growing faster than China has drawn serious skepticism, even derision by serious economists around the world. While India's boosters in the West are not only buying but applauding the new figures, Indian policy professionals at the nation's Central Bank and the Finance ministry are having a very hard time believing the new and improved GDP brought to the world by Indian government. Dissenters include Morgan Stanley's Ruchir Sharma, an Indian-American, who has called the new numbers a "bad joke" aimed at a "wholesale rewriting of history".

2. India's exports are continuing to drop. The trade data shows a sharper slowdown (21%) in exports than in imports (13%, due to lower oil prices) for the last reported month (March 2015). There is an overall decline in both for the year too, according toSeeking Alpha.

3. Large scale manufacturing in India continues to disappoint. Growth slowed in April 2015, according to HSBC India Manufacturing Purchasing Managers Index (PMI) data. At 51.3 in April, down from 52.1 in March, the headline PMI points to slowing demand.

4. Mumbai stocks are among the worst performing in emerging markets. FII (foreign institutional investments) net outflows gave been of the order of Indian Rs 125 billion (about US$ 2 billion) over the past month. The stock market index has seen the biggest correction of 10 per cent in a short time, according to India's First Post.

5. In spite of Prime Minister Modi's high-profile campaign to improve hygiene, India has been ranked near the bottom on access to clean water and sanitation. India has ranked 92 on Water, Sanitation and Hygiene (WASH) Index developed by The Water Institute at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill's Gillings School of Global Public Health in the US, far below Pakistan which ranked near the top in 5th position.

India's Economic Times has recently reported results of a survey of top CEOs. Majority of them say that demand is depressed. "The bonhomie and cheer that greeted the arrival of the Modi government is replaced by a sombre mood and a grim acknowledgement of the realities of doing business in India," reports ET, as it captures the sentiment of the CEOs. The largest engineering conglomerate L and T has said some of its plants are idle as demand for capital goods is very weak. The Aditya Birla Group had deferred its revenue target of $65 billion by 3 years, to 2018.

A recent piece titled "Why India is Not A Buy in Current Environment" published by Seeking Alpha summarizes the current Indian situation as follows:

"While there are some who consider India to be the best emerging market and recommend it as such, my own assessment is different. Whether it's relatively high valuations, weak fundamentals with persistent deficits, government bonds under pressure, weakening currency, rebounding oil prices, declining confidence in the government and so on, India is facing a ton of headwinds going forward. Far too many to be a number one pick among emerging markets."

Modi government has to turn some of its election promises into action. Mr. Modi cannot rely on the benefit of the doubt because his honeymoon period is now over. He will be judged on what he is able to accomplish.

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Haq's Musings: Is Modi's Honeymoon Over?
 
@RiazHaq: Either you have bad eyes or have gone through wrong school of data analysis.

1. GDP calculation methods revision is done globally from USA to Nigeria. And this methods are no secret formula, its been available for other to do the calculations too. If people are skeptical they should learn how to calculate things in changing economy before opening mouth.

2. Indian Exports where 312B USD in 2013-14 and 311B USD in 2014-15, although projected was $330-340B. Yes it didnt grew but its not that bad as you showed up. (21%fall in march etc)

3. PMI is generally cyclical see details here India Manufacturing PMI | 2012-2015 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast it has reach high as 55 in same year too.

4. Mumbai stock exchange was at 22-23000 in april 2014 and rose upto 30000 and currently hovering around 27500 or so

5. PM doesnt have aladins lamp that he rubs and his wishes are granted. Improving Sanitation and Living standards is long term process. It will improve in due course, no matter who is PM, society is developing so would be sanitation and other living standards.

2014-15 brought the positivity in mindset and thats what matter, results will improve sooner or later.
 
Another junk thread in defence.pk

Why exactly? He wrote a full article with sources, and he made many good points.

What makes you call it a "junk thread"? Because it's not pro-India?

By that standard the vast majority of threads in this forum are the same, the difference is that our own defence.pk member took his time to write up this article, using real numbers and sources.
 
Why exactly? He wrote a full article with sources, and he made many good points.

What makes you call it a "junk thread"? Because it's not pro-India?

By that standard the vast majority of threads in this forum are the same, the difference is that our own defence.pk member took his time to write up this article, using real numbers and sources.

As it true that being pro India could blind a person from critiquing India, it is also true that being anti-India too would blind a person from critiquing India correctly.
 
Why exactly? He wrote a full article with sources, and he made many good points.

What makes you call it a "junk thread"? Because it's not pro-India?

By that standard the vast majority of threads in this forum are the same, the difference is that our own defence.pk member took his time to write up this article, using real numbers and sources.


No because it is biased and do not reflect the reality.

1) inflation is lowest in last 7 years.
2) Whole sale price index is negative.
3) Forex reserve is all time high.
4) Nuclear agreement with several countries such as US, Canada, Australia,
5) There is an excessive thrust on Make in India. Many companies are now coming to India.
6) Jandhan Yojana provided Bank account to over 99% of the families.
7 RS 2 lakh insurance to people on Just Rs 360 premium.
8) More than double allocation to states for there 5 year plan
9) Strict laws on Black none panelty as recovery as high as 120% of money transferred abroad.
10) Farmer friendly land acquisition bill.
11) 10 time higher Highway build up compared to previous government. i.e 30 KM every day.
12) Many strategic measures like building infrastructure in border area.

And list is too long.
 
@RiazHaq

Seeking Alpha is a blog managed by a ex hedge fund manager. All investors are different. Some investors are bullish on certain asset, while you will find scores of others investors having a different opinion or bearish on the same asset. That is how markets determine prices of assets (interaction between investors). Even the author of that article agreed that although he may not find India attractive, he agrees that there are many investors who are aggressive on India

And as I said before Seeking Alpha, being a blog, cannot be a authentic source. It is the author's opinion...no need to read too much.
 
@RiazHaq

Seeking Alpha is a blog managed by a ex hedge fund manager. All investors are different. Some investors are bullish on certain asset, while you will find scores of others investors having a different opinion or bearish on the same asset. That is how markets determine prices of assets (interaction between investors). Even the author of that article agreed that although he may not find India attractive, he agrees that there are many investors who are aggressive on India

And as I said before Seeking Alpha, being a blog, cannot be a authentic source. It is the author's opinion...no need to read too much.

India runs massive current account deficits. Its imports far outstrip exports year after year. According to the Reserve Bank (RBI) data, in the April-December 2014 period of last fiscal, India's current account deficit stood at $31.1 billion or 2.3% of GDP.

If the outflow of $2 billion a month continues a few more months, India will have very serious trouble funding its huge trade deficits.


Haq's Musings: Can Indian Economy Survive Without Western Money?
 
India runs massive current account deficits. Its imports far outstrip exports year after year. According to the Reserve Bank (RBI) data, in the April-December 2014 period of last fiscal, India's current account deficit stood at $31.1 billion or 2.3% of GDP.

If the outflow of $2 billion a month continues a few more months, India will have very serious trouble funding its huge trade deficits.


Haq's Musings: Can Indian Economy Survive Without Western Money?

As you must know economy is not only about imports and exports, but there are many items such as savings, domestic investments, FDI and more. Until the time economy is growing at a faster rate, no need to bother on how to fund the deficit. I would rather bother on how much value is being created on the new investments than on the import-export deficit.

It is not like that India is only country that has this deficit, but there are many including US that has import-export deficit. I would rather take this deficit as opportunity to create more goods and services domestically to fulfill the demand. After all the deficit says there is more demand for goods and services than can be fulfilled by the domestic supply.
 
India runs massive current account deficits. Its imports far outstrip exports year after year. According to the Reserve Bank (RBI) data, in the April-December 2014 period of last fiscal, India's current account deficit stood at $31.1 billion or 2.3% of GDP.

If the outflow of $2 billion a month continues a few more months, India will have very serious trouble funding its huge trade deficits.


Haq's Musings: Can Indian Economy Survive Without Western Money?


In absolute term of CAD, Please do a YoY comaprison

Just for the sake of its the distortion of data mapped without reference to previous trend so as to misguide the discussion and only to pat ones agenda.
India Current Account | 1949-2015 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast

While still on the topic the Forecast for the future :

India Current Account Forecast
 
As you must know economy is not only about imports and exports, but there are many items such as savings, domestic investments, FDI and more. Until the time economy is growing at a faster rate, no need to bother on how to fund the deficit. I would rather bother on how much value is being created on the new investments than on the import-export deficit.

It is not like that India is only country that has this deficit, but there are many including US that has import-export deficit. I would rather take this deficit as opportunity to create more goods and services domestically to fulfill the demand. After all the deficit says there is more demand for goods and services than can be fulfilled by the domestic supply.

A balance of payment crisis can screw up the entire economy.

If you don't have enough US $, you can't import energy which drives the entire modern economy.


Haq's Musings: Goldman's O'Neill "Disappointed" as India "Explodes"
 
Haq's Musings: Is Modi's Honeymoon Over?

Things are not looking so rosy at home for Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi as he continues his world tour with the latest stop in Beijing, China.



Is Modi government's honeymoon already over on its first anniversary at the helm? Has the Indian economy really turned around? Is it really growing faster than China? Are Indian businesses doing better under the new government? Are investors more excited about India's prospects? Has Indian currency recovered to levels before its collapse in 2013? Is India any cleaner than it was last year? To answer these questions, let's look at some data:

1. Revision of GDP methodology by India's Central Statistical Office (CSO) to show it is growing faster than China has drawn serious skepticism, even derision by serious economists around the world. While India's boosters in the West are not only buying but applauding the new figures, Indian policy professionals at the nation's Central Bank and the Finance ministry are having a very hard time believing the new and improved GDP brought to the world by Indian government. Dissenters include Morgan Stanley's Ruchir Sharma, an Indian-American, who has called the new numbers a "bad joke" aimed at a "wholesale rewriting of history".

2. India's exports are continuing to drop. The trade data shows a sharper slowdown (21%) in exports than in imports (13%, due to lower oil prices) for the last reported month (March 2015). There is an overall decline in both for the year too, according toSeeking Alpha.

3. Large scale manufacturing in India continues to disappoint. Growth slowed in April 2015, according to HSBC India Manufacturing Purchasing Managers Index (PMI) data. At 51.3 in April, down from 52.1 in March, the headline PMI points to slowing demand.

4. Mumbai stocks are among the worst performing in emerging markets. FII (foreign institutional investments) net outflows gave been of the order of Indian Rs 125 billion (about US$ 2 billion) over the past month. The stock market index has seen the biggest correction of 10 per cent in a short time, according to India's First Post.

5. In spite of Prime Minister Modi's high-profile campaign to improve hygiene, India has been ranked near the bottom on access to clean water and sanitation. India has ranked 92 on Water, Sanitation and Hygiene (WASH) Index developed by The Water Institute at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill's Gillings School of Global Public Health in the US, far below Pakistan which ranked near the top in 5th position.

India's Economic Times has recently reported results of a survey of top CEOs. Majority of them say that demand is depressed. "The bonhomie and cheer that greeted the arrival of the Modi government is replaced by a sombre mood and a grim acknowledgement of the realities of doing business in India," reports ET, as it captures the sentiment of the CEOs. The largest engineering conglomerate L and T has said some of its plants are idle as demand for capital goods is very weak. The Aditya Birla Group had deferred its revenue target of $65 billion by 3 years, to 2018.

A recent piece titled "Why India is Not A Buy in Current Environment" published by Seeking Alpha summarizes the current Indian situation as follows:

"While there are some who consider India to be the best emerging market and recommend it as such, my own assessment is different. Whether it's relatively high valuations, weak fundamentals with persistent deficits, government bonds under pressure, weakening currency, rebounding oil prices, declining confidence in the government and so on, India is facing a ton of headwinds going forward. Far too many to be a number one pick among emerging markets."

Modi government has to turn some of its election promises into action. Mr. Modi cannot rely on the benefit of the doubt because his honeymoon period is now over. He will be judged on what he is able to accomplish.

Related Links:

Haq's Musings

Can India Survive Without Western Money Inflows?

Modi's Pakistan Policy

India's Soaring Twin Deficits

Xi Jinping's Pakistan Visit

How Strategic Are China-Pakistan Ties?

India Pakistan Economic Comparison in 2014

Pakistan's KSE-100 Outperforms India's Sensex

India's IT Exports Highly Exaggerated

Is India Fudging GDP to Show Faster Growth Than China?

Haq's Musings: Is Modi's Honeymoon Over?
he he he he Riaz :haha:
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India runs massive current account deficits. Its imports far outstrip exports year after year. According to the Reserve Bank (RBI) data, in the April-December 2014 period of last fiscal, India's current account deficit stood at $31.1 billion or 2.3% of GDP.

If the outflow of $2 billion a month continues a few more months, India will have very serious trouble funding its huge trade deficits.

Haq's Musings: Can Indian Economy Survive Without Western Money?

A balance of payment crisis can screw up the entire economy.

If you don't have enough US $, you can't import energy which drives the entire modern economy.


Haq's Musings: Goldman's O'Neill "Disappointed" as India "Explodes"

Even if i go by your $2billion a month deficit figures, the Forex Reserves will be able to support us for over 170months thats like 10-12 years. Isnt that a very long horizon for policy makers to right decisions to correct the path?

Check India Current Account | 1949-2015 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast
Check where did we stand in 2013 and where are we now.
Make in India campaign is a long term goal, it will bring in FDI to start the economy wheel moving at high speed and in long term it will increase the exports. So we are not much worried about current deficits.


Some figures of CAD for 2015
New Zealand -4.31%
United Kingdom -4.14%
Brazil -3.61%
Indonesia -2.98%
Sri Lanka -2.89%
Canada -2.83%
Egypt -2.62%
Australia -2.49%
United States -2.21%
Romania -2.13%
India -2.10

I hope this makes some sense about global economy and countries CAD position
 

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