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How will Nasr's Neutron warhead neutralize advancing enemy columns...

You clearly are ranting without knowing. Nasr isn't a WMD.

Any type of chemical, biological or nuclear attack on India or Indian civilian and military assets outside India will be answered with the Indian nuclear arsenal. Basically, if you use nuclear weapons on our troops, you get holes where cities once stood. Let this part be clear.

And war will continue even after all nuclear weapons have been used. Basically, the choice for Pakistan is to make peace after a limited war through the Cold Start Doctrine of the IA. Or use tactical nuclear weapons to stop a few thousand troops only to escalate and ignite a war of annihilation.
 
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We are a country of different races and cultures, but not idiots. We are a nation without total idiots who can not understand basic military strategies and we are not idiots who underestimate our enemies. We are not idiots, and that is why we are proud to be Pakistani. :)
Retarded logics can be seen here, first go fix your nation then go examining ours. Go sit with an untouchable and have lunch maybe, feed some of those poor people, stop the hate speech by your elected officials. You want Pakistan to control its civilians, and you can not control your leaders. Retarded logic isn't it....

oh yes we torture the Baloch and they can never get on this forum, right @DESERT FIGHTER :rofl:

Yeah man.. Poor us.. Do you want to tag more Baloch and Sindhi members and ask them how badly they are treated by you evil Panjabis.. :(

No.. By your retarded logic, Pakistan is the land of tall, light skinned people (which somehow is a special attribute... And that makes you guys racist)

I can only imagine the ostracization Sindhis, Baloch must be feeling in your country just on the basis of skin color.

Yeah man... Poor me.. Being ostracised by Panjabis..

Any type of chemical, biological or nuclear attack on India or Indian civilian and military assets outside India will be answered with the Indian nuclear arsenal. Basically, if you use nuclear weapons on our troops, you get holes where cities once stood. Let this part be clear.

And war will continue even after all nuclear weapons have been used. Basically, the choice for Pakistan is to make peace after a limited war through the Cold Start Doctrine of the IA. Or use tactical nuclear weapons to stop a few thousand troops only to escalate and ignite a war of annihilation.

And somehow Pak will not retaliate... Turning india into a quiet neighbourhood for the next trillion years .. (Hope you do know that Pak missiles cover your entire country-- and their warheads don't use cotton candy -- but plutonium,uranium & other fuked up radioactive stuff)..

The only Indians that will survive will be cockroaches.. Your pick.
 
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Thus even a tactical nuke leads to MAD...

If you think about the economic aspects of the war, then MAD scenario is impossible as far as India is concerned.

To put it into perspective, India has $400B in reserves and every year India collects more than that in terms of revenues. A city like Mumbai can be built within $100-200B, you could say the same for Karachi. So who has the $100-200B?

Also, a nuclear war will result in a massive devaluation of the rupee. The weakened currency will revitalize the Indian economy and also any foreign aid will balloon to a massive size due to the exchange rate difference.

These are just the economic aspects. Militarily, India has the financial muscle to continue the war even after all nukes have been used up, can Pakistan do that? Which means India would take all the most important locations in Pakistan while the Pakistani establishment is either rendered defunct or will fall into some sort of civil war type divide between those who want to keep fighting and those who don't.

That's why MAD is implausible for India. You need to have thousands of nukes to do the same kind of damage India can do to Pakistan with just hundreds of nukes. So even the actual rate of damage will be lopsided in India's favour.
 
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And somehow Pak will not retaliate... Turning india into a quiet neighbourhood for the next trillion years .. (Hope you do know that Pak missiles cover your entire country-- and their warheads don't use cotton candy -- but plutonium,uranium & other fuked up radioactive stuff)..

The only Indians that will survive will be cockroaches.. Your pick.

The above reply answers your post.

To put it into perspective again, let's say Karachi is nuked. In about a week, you can walk into the radioactive zone, find a banana lying around, peel it and eat it, no problem.

Nuclear war is overrated. There are too many myths about nuclear weapons.
 
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If you think about the economic aspects of the war, then MAD scenario is impossible as far as India is concerned.

To put it into perspective, India has $400B in reserves and every year India collects more than that in terms of revenues. A city like Mumbai can be built within $100-200B, you could say the same for Karachi. So who has the $100-200B?
@DESERT FIGHTER check this out... MAD is not gunna be a thing cuz India has money.... They will pay the radioactivity to go away...

Dear Mr poster, Radiation is bad. And you can not bribe it. So please understand that if we take out 30 plus cities including your large ones, you will not have India. The water will be polluted, your farmland will be ruined. India and Pakistan will be destroyed MAD..............
 
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@DESERT FIGHTER check this out... MAD is not gunna be a thing cuz India has money.... They will pay the radioactivity to go away...

Dear Mr poster, Radiation is bad. And you can not bribe it. So please understand that if we take out 30 plus cities including your large ones, you will not have India. The water will be polluted, your farmland will be ruined. India and Pakistan will be destroyed MAD..............

Radiation can be washed away with water. Basically, after the explosion, well over 99% of the radioactive elements have dispersed in only a few days.

Within a year, the entire area can be rebuilt and repopulated again. Look at Hiroshima, Nagasaki.

The Japanese surveyed and cleared all the debris in Hiroshima in 4 years. It took that long because other cities were a higher priority. Most of the delay happened because Hiroshima did not have money for reconstruction and it took years for the Japanese govt to release funds. Over the course of a few years, the entire city was rebuilt. It is obvious that Mumbai has the money, the labour and the skills to rebuild in a few short years. Land reclamation will be a very small problem.

Compared to the overall size of an economy, especially that of India, the cost of construction of buildings is minuscule.

And you overestimate your nuclear weapons. They are too small and too tiny to cause significant damage. And this is without counting the BMD shield that India is in the process of deploying, Pakistan has no such system available.
 
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The above reply answers your post.

To put it into perspective again, let's say Karachi is nuked. In about a week, you can walk into the radioactive zone, find a banana lying around, peel it and eat it, no problem.

Nuclear war is overrated. There are too many myths about nuclear weapons.

Try Chernobyl.. People are still suffering.. You gave the examples of Nagasaki & Hiroshima.. The nukes used on those cities were nothing compared to the ones produced today... And despite that little & fat boy killed millions and the people (probably the 3rd or 4th generation) is still suffering the consequences ..

http://k1project.org/explore-health/hiroshima-and-nagasaki-the-long-term-health-effects


Gud luck !

Radiation can be washed away with water. Basically, after the explosion, well over 99% of the radioactive elements have dispersed in only a few days.

Within a year, the entire area can be rebuilt and repopulated again. Look at Hiroshima, Nagasaki.

The Japanese surveyed and cleared all the debris in Hiroshima in 4 years. It took that long because other cities were a higher priority. Most of the delay happened because Hiroshima did not have money for reconstruction and it took years for the Japanese govt to release funds. Over the course of a few years, the entire city was rebuilt. It is obvious that Mumbai has the money, the labour and the skills to rebuild in a few short years. Land reclamation will be a very small problem.

Compared to the overall size of an economy, especially that of India, the cost of construction of buildings is minuscule.

And you overestimate your nuclear weapons. They are too small and too tiny to cause significant damage. And this is without counting the BMD shield that India is in the process of deploying, Pakistan has no such system available.

Do you people even think before yapping?

The most conservative estimate of our nuke R delivery range;

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Do you somehow thing that the yields of our nukes are too less and that somehow we will miraculously only target Mumbai and the effects of high yield nukes will disappear in a jiffy?


How many nukes do you think Pak needs to destroy India? BMD? Lol.. Do you seriously believe that an unproven "under development" BMD "shield " will be deployed all over India ? And that somehow Pak will not or isn't modifying its missiles to screw your BMD? And that in the most of war when thousands or hundreds of smart missiles are being exchanged you will somehow escaped unhurt?

Rebuild with what? When hundreds of millions in your people will be turned into dust? Your land,water etc become radioactive ? And the survivors die a slow and painful death?

It's called MAD doctrine for a fukin reason..


And we have created a Strategic Naval Command for the second strike capability for that very same doctrine..


Once the nuke exchange starts .. You kiss your smart Arse good bye.
 
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Any type of chemical, biological or nuclear attack on India or Indian civilian and military assets outside India will be answered with the Indian nuclear arsenal. Basically, if you use nuclear weapons on our troops, you get holes where cities once stood. Let this part be clear.

And war will continue even after all nuclear weapons have been used. Basically, the choice for Pakistan is to make peace after a limited war through the Cold Start Doctrine of the IA. Or use tactical nuclear weapons to stop a few thousand troops only to escalate and ignite a war of annihilation.
That's what illiterate internet warriors and armchair generals say or clowns like Parikar babble to appease Jantaa, but the more knowledgeable Indian military who actually knows about nuclear weapons may have different ideas.
MAD or mutually assured destruction is a doomsday scenario which only applies if you are sure of your own destruction, so you make sure that before you go into oblivion you destroy those who are about to or destroying you. That applies in cases of total destruction.
Nasr isn't a weapon of total destruction and unless India is mad as in crazy, the MAD scenario doesn't apply on nasr.
 
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Pakistani tactical nukes and the reason given for their development, the Indian cold start doctrine, maybe taken on face value but in reality it actually serve some other more important purposes. Pakistan got more then enough conventional power to not only browbeat any Indian misadventure but retaliate in kind.

These tactical or smart nukes serve more purpose against Indian hardened targets, like their Airbases, Naval dockyards, command and control. Mated with air launch RAAD or ground based Babur missile, it only takes one strike to make short work of prime Indians military assets hundred of kilometers away from Pakistani border. This all can be done, without breaching the strategic threshold. In fog of war its very hard to establish as to what was used on the Indian military asset as oppose to the full fledge nuclear strikes on Indian population centers.
 
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Try Chernobyl.. People are still suffering.. You gave the examples of Nagasaki & Hiroshima.. The nukes used on those cities were nothing compared to the ones produced today... And despite that little & fat boy killed millions and the people (probably the 3rd or 4th generation) is still suffering the consequences ..

http://k1project.org/explore-health/hiroshima-and-nagasaki-the-long-term-health-effects


Gud luck !

Yes, 31 people have died due to Chernobyl. You should think before yapping.

Do you somehow thing that the yields of our nukes are too less and that somehow we will miraculously only target Mumbai and the effects of high yield nukes will disappear in a jiffy?

The physics is the same regardless of the yield of the bomb. The bigger the bomb, bigger the damage, more is the money and manpower required to cleanup and rebuild.

How many nukes do you think Pak needs to destroy India?

I should say about 30000 to 40000.

BMD? Lol.. Do you seriously believe that an unproven "under development" BMD "shield " will be deployed all over India ?

Yes. It will be deployed all over India. Billions will be spent on it.

And that somehow Pak will not or isn't modifying its missiles to screw your BMD? And that in the most of war when thousands or hundreds of smart missiles are being exchanged you will somehow escaped unhurt?

You are confusing hurting with rebuilding. I didn't say we won't get hurt, I'm saying we can rebuild whatever damage you inflict.

Rebuild with what? When hundreds of millions in your people will be turned into dust? Your land,water etc become radioactive ? And the survivors die a slow and painful death?

Read up on nuclear war.

It's called MAD doctrine for a fukin reason..

That's between US and Russia who have tens of thousands of nukes each.

Once the nuke exchange starts .. You kiss your smart Arse good bye.

No, I live outside most of the blast areas. I'll survive the nukes.

That's what illiterate internet warriors and armchair generals say or clowns like Parikar babble to appease Jantaa, but the more knowledgeable Indian military who actually knows about nuclear weapons may have different ideas.
MAD or mutually assured destruction is a doomsday scenario which only applies if you are sure of your own destruction, so you make sure that before you go into oblivion you destroy those who are about to or destroying you. That applies in cases of total destruction.
Nasr isn't a weapon of total destruction and unless India is mad as in crazy, the MAD scenario doesn't apply on nasr.

Read up on MAD.

You use Nasr on Indian troops, we use thermonuclear weapons on Pak cities. Please keep it simple. This is the result of Nasr. Our govt has confirmed this.

These tactical or smart nukes serve more purpose against Indian hardened targets, like their Airbases, Naval dockyards, command and control. Mated with air launch RAAD or ground based Babur missile, it only takes one strike to make short work of prime Indians military assets hundred of kilometers away from Pakistani border. This all can be done, without breaching the strategic threshold. In fog of war its very hard to establish as to what was used on the Indian military asset as oppose to the full fledge nuclear strikes on Indian population centers.

Such nukes are called strategic nukes, not tactical.

Tactical nukes are used for battle.

And despite that little & fat boy killed millions and the people (probably the 3rd or 4th generation) is still suffering the consequences ..

It's Little Boy and Fat Man.

Little Boy killed 90,000 people, not millions. Hiroshima's total population was 150,000 before the bomb was dropped. 90,000 people died. The population of Hiroshima 1 year after the bomb dropped was 165,000. Today it is over a million. So what did that bomb do in the long run? Absolutely nothing.

When it comes to Chernobyl, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, researchers are still not sure about the long term effects of the radiation, that is genetic defects passed on to children. Too much Hollywood is bad for you.
 
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Such nukes are called strategic nukes, not tactical.

Tactical nukes are used for battle.


Smart or Tactical nukes are specifically designed to be used against enemy military assets and hardened targets which may not be destroyed with conventional weapons. This includes , Air bases, Naval dockyards, command and control, Air craft carriers and supporting fleet, etc.

Battlefield usage is just one of the scenario they can be deployed but in the fog of war, the most probably usage is what I mentioned above.

Strategic nukes are used as a last resort, when destruction of the enemy nation is intended by nuking their population centers with stuff like Hydrogen bomb.
 
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if there is a neutron bomb on nasr that means pak also has hydrogen bomb as neutron an h bomb uses similar mechanism but i think our tactical nukes are small boosted fission devices making a smaller explosion than strategic ones due to use of smaller uranium/plutonium core
 
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