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How Sworn Enemies Pakistan & Israel Are Supporting Azerbaijan While Armenia Gets Russian & Indian Backing?


Interests at play hence seeing Pakistan, Turkey and Israel on the same page, with the US giving approving looks.
 
Having Turkey, Pakistan, and Israel on your side....is a great position to be in the modern ME. GCC+Egypt should take notes.
 
fu*k both countries honestly. we got enough in our own plate.
 
China backs Armenia. China and US are enemies. US backs Azerbaijan so China backs Armenia.
China is not on either side.The United States is also neutral.But China and the United States are emotionally supportive of Armenia.China hates Turkey.The United States because the Armenians have a lot of influence in the United States.
 
Iran is also supporting Azeris. So it's kinda like mutual interest

An is
do you have any verified source to confirm that?
there is a concensus on forum that Iran is siding with Armenians( although i didnt see any source to confirm that either).
 
Iran is and has been supporting Armenia, one can even go through the comments of Iranians here on Pdf(when they downed an Azerbaijanian drone a couple of days ago). The don't care if Azerbaijan is a Muslim country or a Shia majority country or the UN stance favors Azerbaijan in this conflict.
forum comentary is no proof is personal opinion
we must use verified sources to claim official stance.

role of Iran and Arabs is unconfirmed beyond you said, I said, he said.

by the way I am as much concerned about this issue of sides and conflict as much a random Emarati Saudi or Iranian is concerned about Kashmir
 
Iran is very much Anti Azerbaijan. Only reason they are not coming out in open bcz of conundrum Azerbaijan populace are mostly Shia but on the other hand they are also allies of Turkey and Israel. If they attack Azerbaijan directly they will have a $hit fest of epic proportions. There is a huge azeri population on Iranian side of border as well. Although they are helping them covertly as evident by constant flow of military vehicles into Armenia. Wherever there will be a Muslim state fighting iran will automatically jump into opposing camp. This behavior has been well documented in history. If you want an example leave no further than Pakistan where they allowed espionage activities by Indian via chabahar.
It brutally exposes the Iranian regime's lies about seeking betterment for muslims in general - not that sensible people ever bought into such nonsense anyway. Iran looks after Iran, nobody else. Iran is just another KSA. Iran will not see sense and reason and would prefer to sacrifice the kinsmen of a third of its population in the pursuit of Iranian interests.

It's high time the "assets" of Iran in numerous other middle eastern countries realise they are simply pawns. Iran doesn't care about Palestinians or al-quds' holy sites. It's all an illusion.

I don't mind Iran looking out for Iran - this is reasonable. However, why must the regime pretend its relationship with Muslims elsewhere is what drives it? Why must the regime pull a veil over everyone's eyes and act as though they are the champions of their imaginary Islamic cause?

There are lessons here for shias everywhere who may have been indoctrinated by Iranian sectarian politics. Don't follow this pied piper off a cliff. Iran cares about Iran. Pakistan and Pakistanis should care only about Pakistan and Pakistan's tried and tested allies, a group which includes Azerbaijan without any hesitation whatsoever.

Iran needs to disengage itself from its projection as some leader of Asiatic Muslims resisting the imperial west - this image simply isn't backed up by facts. Turkey and Pakistan - though they go about their business quietly compared with the melodramatic rhetoric emanating from the mullahocracy - have far greater credibility and a proven track record in this regard, and maintain independence of national interest despite constant, relentless attempts by European colonialists to nullify them.
 
It brutally exposes the Iranian regime's lies about seeking betterment for muslims in general - not that sensible people ever bought into such nonsense anyway. Iran looks after Iran, nobody else. Iran is just another KSA. Iran will not see sense and reason and would prefer to sacrifice the kinsmen of a third of its population in the pursuit of Iranian interests.

It's high time the "assets" of Iran in numerous other middle eastern countries realise they are simply pawns. Iran doesn't care about Palestinians or al-quds' holy sites. It's all an illusion.

I don't mind Iran looking out for Iran - this is reasonable. However, why must the regime pretend its relationship with Muslims elsewhere is what drives it? Why must the regime pull a veil over everyone's eyes and act as though they are the champions of their imaginary Islamic cause?

There are lessons here for shias everywhere who may have been indoctrinated by Iranian sectarian politics. Don't follow this pied piper off a cliff. Iran cares about Iran. Pakistan and Pakistanis should care only about Pakistan and Pakistan's tried and tested allies, a group which includes Azerbaijan without any hesitation whatsoever.

Iran needs to disengage itself from its projection as some leader of Asiatic Muslims resisting the imperial west - this image simply isn't backed up by facts. Turkey and Pakistan - though they go about their business quietly compared with the melodramatic rhetoric emanating from the mullahocracy - have far greater credibility and a proven track record in this regard, and maintain independence of national interest despite constant, relentless attempts by European colonialists to nullify them.

Anti sunni, Anti jewish and Anti west sentiment is the only thing that is holding Iran together. The reason Iranis shove themselves into every conflict is to divert attention from the real issues at home. Constant bickering regarding how enemies are trying to destroy Iran sells well in Irani populace.

I have always maintained on this forum that Iranis are using Shias in other countries as canon fodders. Pakistani shias should maintain their religious affiliation's but dont confuse state of Iran with Shiaism. Problem arise when Shia populace confuse Iran and Shia Islam as one and the same leading to blind following of corrupt Irani Mullahs. Same is the issue with our sunni populace who confuse sunni Islam and saudia as the same. Unless this thinking is changed both KSA and Iran will keep using muslims as canon fodders for their power grab shit fests.

Shias and sunnis outside iran and saudia need to ask when was the last time these people shed their own blood to settle score. They keep using innocent gullible people of other Nations as fodder for their wars but never fight the war themselves.
 
forum comentary is no proof is personal opinion
we must use verified sources to claim official stance.

role of Iran and Arabs is unconfirmed beyond you said, I said, he said.

by the way I am as much concerned about this issue of sides and conflict as much a random Emarati Saudi or Iranian is concerned about Kashmir


Iranian's have always played baniya-n politics. Their official stance would always be neutral.

Arab role might be unconfirmed, but there are reports of Iranians having something in this conflict.


But what role does Iran, a Shia-Muslim majority country like Azerbaijan, which neighbours both countries, have? Experts with a close eye on the conflict think Iran is secretly backing Armenia, a Christian-majority country.


The protesting groups demanded Iranian authorities close the country’s border with Armenia and the Norduz border gate, through which military equipment have reportedly been transferred to Armenia.



Now one could argue these are biased reports. One could argue what "experts", but when some countries are secretly interfering in other countries affairs, its hard to pinpoint with actual hard-proof to make a point/argument. Then, there comes the common sentiment among the public and here one can see the "love" between Iran and their Azerbaijanian brothers. Sure, sample size is way to little to make a generalized statement, but keeping this and the media in mind one could assume who Iran is backing this conflict.
 
Iranian's have always played baniya-n politics. Their official stance would always be neutral.

Arab role might be unconfirmed, but there are reports of Iranians having something in this conflict.


But what role does Iran, a Shia-Muslim majority country like Azerbaijan, which neighbours both countries, have? Experts with a close eye on the conflict think Iran is secretly backing Armenia, a Christian-majority country.


The protesting groups demanded Iranian authorities close the country’s border with Armenia and the Norduz border gate, through which military equipment have reportedly been transferred to Armenia.



Now one could argue these are biased reports. One could argue what "experts", but when some countries are secretly interfering in other countries affairs, its hard to pinpoint with actual hard-proof to make a point/argument. Then, there comes the common sentiment among the public and here one can see the "love" between Iran and their Azerbaijanian brothers. Sure, sample size is way to little to make a generalized statement, but keeping this and the media in mind one could assume who Iran is backing this conflict.
hence my stance to stay away from these distant conflicts.
 

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