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Indian pilots have flown the f16 many times
In trials right? Could they have flown it more then PAF flights on SUs and Migs?
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Indian pilots have flown the f16 many times
In trials right? Could they have flown it more then PAF flights on SUs and Migs?
Is that what he said in his post?
By the way, Kashmir is a part of Pakistan that is under illegal occupation
RVV-AE-SD outranges everything else... including AIM120D
The question is why it will come closer???? Have you heard in last 30 years F15 did a close range fighting??? ...
Actually.....did you??
You are exactly right about the first part......that your account of advantages of BARS was rough, indeed!
Would you ask me how the JF-17 starts its engines next????
It's apparent that neither of us is convinced by the other so lets just leave this argument! Otherwise I will continue to claim how JFT is actually a threat to MKI even 1 on 1 and you would continue to claim otherwise, no point really.
Again, lets just quit as I cannot repeat how much more direct access PAF has to SU-27's and SU-30's including those SU-30's that are closest to MKI's. I mean what else is there as PAF pilots have flown these Jets on multiple occasions unlike IAF that could have only looked at the F's on the ground and to spot the F's behind in the air!
Anyway, you eventually forced me to stoop to your level. I cannot compete with you at at your level though.
Mr Sandy 3126, I understand that you & Paks are going hot & heavy but Raytheon AMRAAM AIM-120 D / C-8 is currently being fully fledged out and the "true" range and Kill Zone are Classified. I doubt you got hold of that information.
I assure you in comparing systems being currently live-tested or deployed worldwide only Meteor is a serious contender. Let's deal in facts and not bluster. Range and accuracy are two different parameters you need to pay attention. Have a nice day.
First Gulf War; A Saudi F-15 was vectored onto a Iraqi mig's 6 by Sentry E3 and he took that out with an AIM-9 at WVR. But you are right I did not "hear" it.
In trials right? Could they have flown it more then PAF flights on SUs and Migs?
There is just one problem with your post, pakistan signed an agreement with US saying that they cannot use f-16 as a tactical/interceptor against India and if they do US will terminate all future upgrades and spare parts.
You talking of the war where about 2000+ 1st class AF was involved in a conflict with a 3rd class one with their top pilots and planes already fled to Iran and only about a 100 or so mix of downgraded mostly previous generation planes... devoid of any early warning and support and EW.
The FORUM format only works if you pay "close" attention to the "context" of what is being posted.
One of your fellow countrymen had posed a rhetorically flamboyant question about a WVR mash-up by a "heavy fighter" in the last 30 years. I merely called him on that and supplied the counterpoint fact.
Other than that I thank you for your valued knowledge of airforce 'classifications', 'top/downgraded' pilots, and 'generation' of combat aircraft. Clearly key things to think about when in air-combat an American AMRAAM is seeking your rear end...............
Except some isolated Incident there are no incident that F15 allowed rivals to come closer.
The matter of fact is, you didn't read the entire context. ur countrymen put forward the theory that Heavy class fighters can be countered using MRCAs or point defense fighter in WVR, My argument was "Why Heavy fighter involve in WVR when they can wipe out rival from a long distance?"
For your "American AMRAAM" : During cold war, your teen countered MiG25, total 10 Missile exchanged (including American AMRAAM), without any kill. We all know what Iraqi MiGs were, They were outdated.